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Chardin
Joined: 14 Dec 2017 Posts: 18 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:47 pm Post subject: Fact help? |
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Chardin wrote:
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Does anybody know anything or have information about this lens? I found it on a flea market for 9 € (euro).
Its in perfect condition, nearly as new. no dust inside or anything. Looks like it not coated. I have searched the web for information but have not found anything special for this lens. There are some information about what seems to be a later one. Could this be a Tomioka lens ? |
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jamaeolus
Joined: 19 Mar 2014 Posts: 2927 Location: Eugene
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Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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jamaeolus wrote:
We'll take a look. First post photos are blocked until replied to as anti-spam measure. _________________ photos are moments frozen in time |
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jamaeolus
Joined: 19 Mar 2014 Posts: 2927 Location: Eugene
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Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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jamaeolus wrote:
Yes I would say highly likely it is a Tomioka product. Every lens with that livery (2 silver lines, pebble leather grip, orange distance marks, diamond indesx mark) that I have positively ID'd has been made by Tomioka. Look in images when you google "Tominon" to see a few examples. _________________ photos are moments frozen in time |
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jamaeolus
Joined: 19 Mar 2014 Posts: 2927 Location: Eugene
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Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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jamaeolus wrote:
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Hi.
Does anybody know anything or have information about this lens? I found it on a flea market for 9 € (euro).
Its in perfect condition, nearly as new. no dust inside or anything. Looks like it not coated. I have searched the web for information but have not found anything special for this lens. There are some information about what seems to be a later one. Could this be a Tomioka lens ?
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DigiChromeEd
Joined: 29 Dec 2009 Posts: 3462 Location: Northern Ireland
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Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:36 pm Post subject: Re: Fact help? |
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DigiChromeEd wrote:
Chardin wrote: |
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Hi.
Does anybody know anything or have information about this lens? I found it on a flea market for 9 € (euro).
Its in perfect condition, nearly as new. no dust inside or anything. Looks like it not coated. I have searched the web for information but have not found anything special for this lens. There are some information about what seems to be a later one. Could this be a Tomioka lens ? |
_________________ "I've got a Nikon camera, I like to take a photograph" - Paul Simon |
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visualopsins
Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 10528 Location: California
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 12:25 am Post subject: Re: Fact help? |
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visualopsins wrote:
Welcome Chardin _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
Cameras: Sony ILCE-7RM2, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
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M42 Asahi Optical Co., Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200, Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300, Macro-Takumar 1:4/50, Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm, Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element), Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17, Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100, Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100, SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
M42 Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
Contax Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm F3.5-4.5
Pentax K-mount SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51BB), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto (Kiron)
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buerokratiehasser
Joined: 12 Jun 2011 Posts: 470
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 8:07 am Post subject: |
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buerokratiehasser wrote:
If I see fake silver I say Sun, but it may not be accurate in this case. The "maker" is often useless anyway since at some time all of Japan was like a big syndicate, helping each other out. It is the design that counts.
In your case, the 35/2.8 and typical A/M switch make me suspect a clunker design I own a copy of too. It is not really bad but I never got a sharp shot.
Does the lens feel heavy, like you could throw it at someone to kill? If so, someone just made a $8 profit. |
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TrueLoveOne
Joined: 30 Sep 2012 Posts: 1840 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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TrueLoveOne wrote:
I have the same lens with "Pentor" brandname on it. Also a 100mm f/2.8 in the same design.
Use it, it's actually quite good! _________________ My Flickr photostream: http://www.flickr.com/photos/chantalrene/
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Chardin
Joined: 14 Dec 2017 Posts: 18 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:06 pm Post subject: F11 |
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Chardin wrote:
At F11, the corners are not sharp on my FF camera. |
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TrueLoveOne
Joined: 30 Sep 2012 Posts: 1840 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:10 pm Post subject: Re: F11 |
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TrueLoveOne wrote:
Chardin wrote: |
At F11, the corners are not sharp on my FF camera. |
Last time i tried it was indeed on APS-C. I have never tried it on the A7. _________________ My Flickr photostream: http://www.flickr.com/photos/chantalrene/
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guardian
Joined: 18 Mar 2009 Posts: 1749
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 4:09 pm Post subject: Re: F11 |
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guardian wrote:
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At F11, the corners are not sharp on my FF camera. |
Understood. But of course that might not be the fault, or at least not entirely the fault, of the lens. |
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TrueLoveOne
Joined: 30 Sep 2012 Posts: 1840 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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TrueLoveOne wrote:
I'll put it on the A7 tomorrow and see what it gives me. _________________ My Flickr photostream: http://www.flickr.com/photos/chantalrene/
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jamaeolus
Joined: 19 Mar 2014 Posts: 2927 Location: Eugene
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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jamaeolus wrote:
see here as well:
http://m42lens.com/m42-lens-database/641-tomioka-auto-revuenon-55mm-f-1-2-16 _________________ photos are moments frozen in time |
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TrueLoveOne
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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TrueLoveOne wrote:
Yes, i knew that it has the same design. Somewhere on this forum there is a thread with some great shots made with a 100mm f/2.8 lens in this same design. But i cannot remember what brandname was on that one.... i do remember however that it was most possibly a Tomioka lens.
I have that same 100mm lens, but if recall correctly mine had the focus throw in just the opposite direction. _________________ My Flickr photostream: http://www.flickr.com/photos/chantalrene/
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jamaeolus
Joined: 19 Mar 2014 Posts: 2927 Location: Eugene
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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jamaeolus wrote:
Tomioka lenses are definitely a mixed bag. Some are stellar (just look at the prices paid for the 55mm 1.2) though not all. I had a Focal labelled 135mm 2.8 that was OK but certainly not a top performer. My guess is they manufactured to a price point specified by the third party. _________________ photos are moments frozen in time |
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Lloydy
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 11:39 pm Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
I've had this Auto Chinon 55 f1.7 for a long time ( and a newer version that I believe is optically the same ) and I keep looking for evidence that this is a Tomioka lens, I've looked long and hard. And I'm still not convinced it is, no matter how much I would like it to be because it would be worth a lot more if I sold it.
Are Tomioka's worth the premium price they seem to attract? i don't know.....this 55 / 1.7 is a very good lens, but I've got better ( and plenty worse ) The style of the leathergrain grip with the chrome edge rings is Tomioka, but it's a style I've seen on some absolute junk lenses as well, obviously copied.
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Lightshow
Joined: 04 Nov 2011 Posts: 3669 Location: Calgary
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Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 12:35 am Post subject: |
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Lightshow wrote:
I have the 35/2.8 in FD mount. I don't think I've used it yet. _________________ A Manual Focus Junky...
One photographers junk lens is an artists favorite tool.
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Chardin
Joined: 14 Dec 2017 Posts: 18 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 9:12 am Post subject: 55mm f1,4 |
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Chardin wrote:
I have this 55mm f1,4. I´ll have to take it out and try it. _________________ Sony A7RII/ Nikon 28mm AI-s f2,8/ SMC Pentax K 28mm ff3,5/ Super Takumar 50mm F1,8 8 elements/SMC Takumar 50mm F1,4/Minolta MD 35 F2,8/ Auto Chinon Macro 55mm F1,7/ SMC Takumar 55mm f1,8/ Yashinon DS-M 50mm F1,4/ Mamayia Sekor 55mm F1,4/ Auto Chinon 55mm f1,4/ Auto Chinon MC 50mm f1,7/ Porst 35mm f1,8/ Auto Chinon MC 55mm f1,4/ Helios 44M4 58mm f2/ Fujinon EBC 50mm f1,4/ Yashica ML 28mm f2,8/ Zeiss Jena 50mm f2,8/ Volna-9 Macro 50mm f2,8/ Minoplta MD 35-70mm f3,5/ SMC Takumar Macro 50mm f4/ SMC Takumar Macro 100mm F4/ SMC Takumar 85mm f1,8/ Ricoh Rikenon 50mm f2/ Konica Hexanon AR 50mm f1,7/ SMC Takumar 28mm f3,5/ SMC Takumar 35mm f3,5/ Yashica DX 50mm F1,7, Yashica DX 50mm F1,4 |
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TrueLoveOne
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Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 9:20 am Post subject: Re: 55mm f1,4 |
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TrueLoveOne wrote:
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I have this 55mm f1,4. I´ll have to take it out and try it. |
Also marketed as Revuenon 1.4/55. Some Revue slr cameras are Chinon as well. The lens is very good!
Staring... by René Maly, on Flickr _________________ My Flickr photostream: http://www.flickr.com/photos/chantalrene/
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Chardin
Joined: 14 Dec 2017 Posts: 18 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 1:44 pm Post subject: thank´s |
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Chardin wrote:
Thank you for all replies, this forum are very nice and interesting. It have been a good help before getting new (old) lenses.
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This is pictures from last summer, taken with a Canon 5DII. Waiting for this summer and going out with my Sony instead. _________________ Sony A7RII/ Nikon 28mm AI-s f2,8/ SMC Pentax K 28mm ff3,5/ Super Takumar 50mm F1,8 8 elements/SMC Takumar 50mm F1,4/Minolta MD 35 F2,8/ Auto Chinon Macro 55mm F1,7/ SMC Takumar 55mm f1,8/ Yashinon DS-M 50mm F1,4/ Mamayia Sekor 55mm F1,4/ Auto Chinon 55mm f1,4/ Auto Chinon MC 50mm f1,7/ Porst 35mm f1,8/ Auto Chinon MC 55mm f1,4/ Helios 44M4 58mm f2/ Fujinon EBC 50mm f1,4/ Yashica ML 28mm f2,8/ Zeiss Jena 50mm f2,8/ Volna-9 Macro 50mm f2,8/ Minoplta MD 35-70mm f3,5/ SMC Takumar Macro 50mm f4/ SMC Takumar Macro 100mm F4/ SMC Takumar 85mm f1,8/ Ricoh Rikenon 50mm f2/ Konica Hexanon AR 50mm f1,7/ SMC Takumar 28mm f3,5/ SMC Takumar 35mm f3,5/ Yashica DX 50mm F1,7, Yashica DX 50mm F1,4 |
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jamaeolus
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Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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konicamera
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Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 10:26 pm Post subject: Re: F11 |
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konicamera wrote:
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At F11, the corners are not sharp on my FF camera. |
I wouldn't blame the lens too hastily. I see that the upper left corner is far blurrier than the other three, which are not all that terrible actually. That blurriness may be caused by wind, which is always a possibility with branches. I would try the shoot again with something more steady in the corners, like a brick wall or something. Less pleasing than a nice branch, but it stays put. _________________
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Chardin
Joined: 14 Dec 2017 Posts: 18 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 7:11 pm Post subject: blur |
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Chardin wrote:
That's right ill have to try the lens some more. _________________ Sony A7RII/ Nikon 28mm AI-s f2,8/ SMC Pentax K 28mm ff3,5/ Super Takumar 50mm F1,8 8 elements/SMC Takumar 50mm F1,4/Minolta MD 35 F2,8/ Auto Chinon Macro 55mm F1,7/ SMC Takumar 55mm f1,8/ Yashinon DS-M 50mm F1,4/ Mamayia Sekor 55mm F1,4/ Auto Chinon 55mm f1,4/ Auto Chinon MC 50mm f1,7/ Porst 35mm f1,8/ Auto Chinon MC 55mm f1,4/ Helios 44M4 58mm f2/ Fujinon EBC 50mm f1,4/ Yashica ML 28mm f2,8/ Zeiss Jena 50mm f2,8/ Volna-9 Macro 50mm f2,8/ Minoplta MD 35-70mm f3,5/ SMC Takumar Macro 50mm f4/ SMC Takumar Macro 100mm F4/ SMC Takumar 85mm f1,8/ Ricoh Rikenon 50mm f2/ Konica Hexanon AR 50mm f1,7/ SMC Takumar 28mm f3,5/ SMC Takumar 35mm f3,5/ Yashica DX 50mm F1,7, Yashica DX 50mm F1,4 |
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