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CuriousOne
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Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 12:11 pm Post subject: Will anyone be interested in glued lens delamination service |
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CuriousOne wrote:
Hello.
I've managed to purchase used, but still working device, which uses high temperature and vacuum, to de-laminate glued lens elements.
I de-laminated several glued lens components using it (will post pictures later) and they appear to be fine.
I'm interested, whenever someone will require such service, and how much he'll agree to pay?
The process itself is very complex, requires very slow temperature adjustment and takes about 10 days. Considering the amount of electricity consumed, using it for single order is not a good idea, a batch of at least 10 lenses is needed, I believe.
Any ideas? _________________ I have nothing to compensate with lens |
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ZoneV
Joined: 09 Nov 2009 Posts: 1633 Location: Germany
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Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 8:43 am Post subject: |
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ZoneV wrote:
Does this work only with Canada balm glued lenses, or with new lenses with UV glued glue too? _________________ Camera modification, repair and DIY - some links to look through: http://www.4photos.de/camera-diy/index-en.html
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CuriousOne
Joined: 31 Dec 2013 Posts: 669 Location: Home
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Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 4:59 am Post subject: |
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CuriousOne wrote:
Good question. Have to try. If you suggest me a modern lens with UV glued components, I'll give it a try. _________________ I have nothing to compensate with lens |
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ZoneV
Joined: 09 Nov 2009 Posts: 1633 Location: Germany
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Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 7:11 am Post subject: |
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ZoneV wrote:
I suppose you can get test samples with all Autofocus lenses (except perhaps those very early ones for manual cameras). So a cheap defect Sigma, Tamron, Canon, Nikon AF type zoom lens will help. _________________ Camera modification, repair and DIY - some links to look through: http://www.4photos.de/camera-diy/index-en.html
I AM A LENS NERD!
Epis, Elmaron, Emerald, Ernostar, Helioplan and Heidosmat.
Epiotar, Kameraobjektiv, Anastigmat, Epis, Meganast, Magnagon, Quinar, Culmigon, Novotrinast, Novflexar, Colorplan, Sekor, Kinon, Talon, Telemegor, Xenon, Xenar, Ultra, Ultra Star. Tessar, Janar, Visionar, Kiptar, Kipronar and Rotelar.
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16472 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 7:14 am Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
ZoneV wrote: |
Does this work only with Canada balm glued lenses, or with new lenses with UV glued glue too? |
Good question! Most modern lenses use UV hardened lens cement to bond lens elements. _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
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https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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cooltouch
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 9097 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
I have an achromatic doublet that is delaminating along its outer edge. So I could use this sort of service, but it's the only lens I have right now that needs this type of repair. This is an older lens, so I'm assuming it is cemented using Canada balsam. So keep us posted. _________________ Michael
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56 DIN
Joined: 24 Apr 2010 Posts: 1656 Location: Germany Erbach /ODW
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Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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56 DIN wrote:
I have a Nikkor 35mm f2 which could be done
are you diasassembling the units or how do you want to do this?
I think new lamination must be checked in the lens barrel and in the optical assembly before shipping
and where are you lokated? _________________ Thomas
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bghomofaber
Joined: 03 Mar 2016 Posts: 154
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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 10:43 am Post subject: Re: Will anyone be interested in glued lens delamination ser |
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bghomofaber wrote:
CuriousOne wrote: |
Hello.
I've managed to purchase used, but still working device, which uses high temperature and vacuum, to de-laminate glued lens elements.
I de-laminated several glued lens components using it (will post pictures later) and they appear to be fine.
I'm interested, whenever someone will require such service, and how much he'll agree to pay?
The process itself is very complex, requires very slow temperature adjustment and takes about 10 days. Considering the amount of electricity consumed, using it for single order is not a good idea, a batch of at least 10 lenses is needed, I believe.
Any ideas? |
My guess is that one would pay accordingly to lens' value.
I have two doublets to detach, one from a tamron 25 210 and the other from a minolta 50 1.7 rear group. Both lenses are cheap, so I wouldn't feel a urge to pay much.
Conversely, If I needed to repair a precious or rare lens I would be glad to spend something more substantial.
I would btw like to know if you may also glue back the lens with the proper alignment, since doing it at home after delaminating is not very easy: I wouldn't try it on a high class lens.
So I think you might better try to set up a complete doublet repair service, which could be much more profitable being also used by professional vendors and repairers. |
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16472 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 10:58 am Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
This all WOUlD ONLY MAKE SENSE IF A COLLIMATED RE-ASSEMBLY WOULD BE INCLUDED;
and I honestly doubt you are willing to spen $$$$ on a suitable collimator and adjustable lens holder
plus the needed vacumized UV glue and hardening UV light system... _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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CuriousOne
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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CuriousOne wrote:
I do have access to UV curing system and even a collimator and I've managed to re-assemble some Russian VEGA lens blocks and they work just fine, but I don't feel that I'm going to offer this service to anyone, because it will take too much my time and your money _________________ I have nothing to compensate with lens |
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