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Vilmos
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 Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 9:04 pm Post subject: CZJ MC Sonnar 200mm f2.8 vs. CZJ Sonnar MC 180mm f2.8 (P6) |
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Vilmos wrote:
CZJ MC Sonnar 200mm f2.8 vs. CZJ Sonnar MC 180mm f2.8 (P6)
What do you think? Wich is the better choice?
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Sony A7 II
CZJ (Red MC) Flektogon 20 mm f2.8, Yashica ML 28mm f2.8 (2. version), Pentacon (Red MC) 29 mm f2.8, CZJ (Red MC) Flektogon 35 mm f2.4, CZJ (Red MC) Pancolar 50mm f1.8, CZJ semi-auto Tessar 50 f2.8, Yashica ML 50mm f1.7 (2. version), Helios 58mm f2, Pentacon 100mm f2.8, CZJ (Red MC) Sonnar 135mm f3.5, CZJ MC Sonnar 200mm f2.8, Pentacn 135 mm f2.8 (15 blades)
Pentacon 200 mm f4, Tair 300 mm f4.5
Soligor 35-70mm F2.5-3.5, Tokina AT-X 525 50-250 mm f/4-5.6 |
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visualopsins
Joined: 05 Mar 2009
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Location: California
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| Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
Compare Weight and Close focus distance; consider with purpose.
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Cameras: Sony ILCE-7RM2, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
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M42 Asahi Optical Co., Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200, Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300, Macro-Takumar 1:4/50, Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm, Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element), Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17, Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100, Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100, SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
M42 Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
Contax Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm F3.5-4.5
Pentax K-mount SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51BB), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto (Kiron)
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Vilmos
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Location: Hungary
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| Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 6:45 am Post subject: |
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Vilmos wrote:
I am curious about the quality of the photo.
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Sony A7 II
CZJ (Red MC) Flektogon 20 mm f2.8, Yashica ML 28mm f2.8 (2. version), Pentacon (Red MC) 29 mm f2.8, CZJ (Red MC) Flektogon 35 mm f2.4, CZJ (Red MC) Pancolar 50mm f1.8, CZJ semi-auto Tessar 50 f2.8, Yashica ML 50mm f1.7 (2. version), Helios 58mm f2, Pentacon 100mm f2.8, CZJ (Red MC) Sonnar 135mm f3.5, CZJ MC Sonnar 200mm f2.8, Pentacn 135 mm f2.8 (15 blades)
Pentacon 200 mm f4, Tair 300 mm f4.5
Soligor 35-70mm F2.5-3.5, Tokina AT-X 525 50-250 mm f/4-5.6 |
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blotafton
Joined: 08 Aug 2013
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Location: Sweden
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| Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 8:52 am Post subject: |
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blotafton wrote:
I have a 180mm Sonnar. The performance on an a7 wasn't too impressive. But it probably works better on 6x6 film.
I compared it with a Mamiya A 150mm 2.8 645 lens and that one is really good on digital, much better.
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blotafton
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Location: Sweden
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blotafton wrote:
Stopped down.
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Vilmos
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Location: Hungary
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| Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 11:39 am Post subject: |
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Vilmos wrote:
Thank you!
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Sony A7 II
CZJ (Red MC) Flektogon 20 mm f2.8, Yashica ML 28mm f2.8 (2. version), Pentacon (Red MC) 29 mm f2.8, CZJ (Red MC) Flektogon 35 mm f2.4, CZJ (Red MC) Pancolar 50mm f1.8, CZJ semi-auto Tessar 50 f2.8, Yashica ML 50mm f1.7 (2. version), Helios 58mm f2, Pentacon 100mm f2.8, CZJ (Red MC) Sonnar 135mm f3.5, CZJ MC Sonnar 200mm f2.8, Pentacn 135 mm f2.8 (15 blades)
Pentacon 200 mm f4, Tair 300 mm f4.5
Soligor 35-70mm F2.5-3.5, Tokina AT-X 525 50-250 mm f/4-5.6 |
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stevemark
Joined: 29 Apr 2011
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Location: Switzerland
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stevemark wrote:
I can't comment on the CZJ 2.8/200mm, but i have both the older CZJ 2.8/180mm (around 1950, for 24x36mm) and the "newer" version for the Pntacon six (around 1965).
The (older) computation for 24x36mm is rather soft, but has lots of detail wide open. I also has a fair amount of longitudinal CAs (purple fringing). For color landscapes on 24MP FF i really prefer AD/ED/UD lenses such as the Minolta AF 2.8/200mm APO or the ED Nikkor 2.8/180mm. For b/w portraits, however, the Sonnar 2.8/180mm is a really nice lens. I have adapted one to us it on my Sony A900, and the combo looks and works really well 
Stephan
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