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Phalbert
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 Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 4:26 pm Post subject: Tell me this is not a scam. |
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Phalbert wrote:
There is this website with incredible prices for used lenses. Too good to be true?
I bought and paid but by the time you reach the checkout, you deal with rather suspicious weird websites. Still you can use paypal. 🤔🤔🤔
This is where it starts :
https://www.sophyian.top/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=2_5
Any reassuring comment welcome.
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🙋 My wishlist: Titan or Idaho 135/1,8 Nikon Df Nikkor 105/1,8 35/1,4 85/1,4
My dream lenses: Zuiko 180/2 Prototype Zuiko 85/1,4
Zeiss CY: 55/1,2 85/1,2
Astro Berlin 250/2 Canon EF 50/1,0 85/1,2
Nikkor 105/1,4 28/1,4
My stolen stuff: Zuiko 24/2 #106874; Zuiko 35-80/2,8 #102180; Zuiko 35/2 #119168; Zuiko 90/2 macro #102858; Zuiko x1,4 converter #102019; Tamron 17/3,5 #400567; Tamron 400/4 #80407; Soligor 135/2 #17506600 Sigma 28/1,8 #1001124 |
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caspert79
Joined: 31 Oct 2010
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| Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
Yeah, free lenses 😁! Free shipping as well 😋. |
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Pancolart
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| Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
Seen a similar site. Certainly a scam. Probably some smart auto page generator.
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Phalbert
Joined: 17 May 2009
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Location: Namibia
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| Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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Phalbert wrote:
😠😡😠😡 Trying to cancel the payment. How does paypal not recognize this BS ???
Thanks guys.
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🙋 My wishlist: Titan or Idaho 135/1,8 Nikon Df Nikkor 105/1,8 35/1,4 85/1,4
My dream lenses: Zuiko 180/2 Prototype Zuiko 85/1,4
Zeiss CY: 55/1,2 85/1,2
Astro Berlin 250/2 Canon EF 50/1,0 85/1,2
Nikkor 105/1,4 28/1,4
My stolen stuff: Zuiko 24/2 #106874; Zuiko 35-80/2,8 #102180; Zuiko 35/2 #119168; Zuiko 90/2 macro #102858; Zuiko x1,4 converter #102019; Tamron 17/3,5 #400567; Tamron 400/4 #80407; Soligor 135/2 #17506600 Sigma 28/1,8 #1001124 |
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caspert79
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| Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
| Phalbert wrote: |
😠😡😠😡 Trying to cancel the payment. How does paypal not recognize this BS ???
Thanks guys. |
Just make sure you really paid through paypal. |
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invisible
Joined: 06 Jun 2013
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| Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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invisible wrote:
I just clicked on the link and my antivirus (Trend Micro Internet Security) automatically flagged it as a "dangerous scam page." |
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CarbonR
Joined: 31 Dec 2008
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Location: Clermont-Ferrand, France
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| Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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CarbonR wrote:
Landing page, almost everything is at $26 or $10. I even do not have the idea this site can be legal/real.
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Lenses : 15mm to 1000mm (24x36)
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Wide angle : Takumar 15/3.5 15mm, Takumar 17/4 17mm, Takumar 18/11 18mm, Takumar 20/4.5 20mm, Takumar 24/3.5 24mm, Takumar 28/3.5 V1 28mm, Takumar 28/3.5 V2 28mm, Takumar 35/2 V1 35mm, Takumar 35/2 V2 35mm, Takumar 35/2.3 35mm, Takumar 35/3.5 35mm, Takumar 35/4 35mm
Standard : Takumar 50/1.4 V1 50mm, Takumar 50/1.4 V2 50mm, Takumar 50/3.5 50mm, Takumar 50/4 50mm, Takumar 55/2 55/1.8 55mm, Takumar 55/2.2 V1 55mm, Takumar 55/2.2 V2 55mm, Takumar 58/2 58mm, Takumar 58/2.4 58mm
Short tele : Takumar 83/1.9 83mm, Takumar 85/1.8 85/1.9 85mm, Takumar 85/1.8 85mm, Takumar 100/2 100mm, Takumar 100/3.5 100mm, Takumar 100/4 100mm, Takumar 105/2.8 V1 105mm, Takumar 105/2.8 V2 105mm, Takumar 120/2.8 120mm
Telephoto : Takumar 135/2.5 V1 135mm, Takumar 135/2.5 V2 135mm, Takumar 135/3.5 V1 135mm, Takumar 135/3.5 V2 135mm, Takumar 150/4 V1 150mm, Takumar 150/4 V2 150mm
Long tele : Takumar 200/3.5 200mm, Takumar 200/4 200mm, Takumar 200/5.6 200mm, Takumar 300/4 V1 300mm, Takumar 300/4 V2 300mm, Takumar 300/4 V3 300mm, Takumar 300/6.3 300mm, Takumar 400/5.6 400mm, Takumar 500/4.5 500mm, Takumar 500/5 500mm, Takumar 1000/8 V1 1000mm, Takumar 1000/8 V2 1000mm
Zoom : Zoom-Takumar 45~125/4 , Zoom-Takumar 70~150/4.5 , Zoom-Takumar 85~210/4.5 , Zoom-Takumar 135~600/6.7
Achromatic : Ultra-Achromatic-Takumar 85/4.5 , Ultra-Achromatic-Takumar 300/5.6 300mm |
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DConvert
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| Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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DConvert wrote:
| caspert79 wrote: |
| Phalbert wrote: |
😠😡😠😡 Trying to cancel the payment. How does paypal not recognize this BS ???
Thanks guys. |
Just make sure you really paid through paypal. |
Change your paypal password anyway ASAP. |
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Phalbert
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Location: Namibia
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| Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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Phalbert wrote:
DConvert, changed password. Thanks.
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🙋 My wishlist: Titan or Idaho 135/1,8 Nikon Df Nikkor 105/1,8 35/1,4 85/1,4
My dream lenses: Zuiko 180/2 Prototype Zuiko 85/1,4
Zeiss CY: 55/1,2 85/1,2
Astro Berlin 250/2 Canon EF 50/1,0 85/1,2
Nikkor 105/1,4 28/1,4
My stolen stuff: Zuiko 24/2 #106874; Zuiko 35-80/2,8 #102180; Zuiko 35/2 #119168; Zuiko 90/2 macro #102858; Zuiko x1,4 converter #102019; Tamron 17/3,5 #400567; Tamron 400/4 #80407; Soligor 135/2 #17506600 Sigma 28/1,8 #1001124 |
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Phalbert
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| Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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Phalbert wrote:
I'm very angry at paypal. They should detect it when certain websites come up at the checkout what these sites are about.
When you try to contact them, everything is automatic, even the voice when you call them directly and you never get an option to cancel the order even if the payment hasn't gone off yet, as in my case.
Of course I should have been more carefull too, thanks for reminding me...
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🙋 My wishlist: Titan or Idaho 135/1,8 Nikon Df Nikkor 105/1,8 35/1,4 85/1,4
My dream lenses: Zuiko 180/2 Prototype Zuiko 85/1,4
Zeiss CY: 55/1,2 85/1,2
Astro Berlin 250/2 Canon EF 50/1,0 85/1,2
Nikkor 105/1,4 28/1,4
My stolen stuff: Zuiko 24/2 #106874; Zuiko 35-80/2,8 #102180; Zuiko 35/2 #119168; Zuiko 90/2 macro #102858; Zuiko x1,4 converter #102019; Tamron 17/3,5 #400567; Tamron 400/4 #80407; Soligor 135/2 #17506600 Sigma 28/1,8 #1001124 |
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caspert79
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| Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
| Phalbert wrote: |
I'm very angry at paypal. They should detect it when certain websites come up at the checkout what these sites are about.
When you try to contact them, everything is automatic, even the voice when you call them directly and you never get an option to cancel the order even if the payment hasn't gone off yet, as in my case.
Of course I should have been more carefull too, thanks for reminding me... |
Are you sure you paid through the actual Paypal site? It would actually surprise me. |
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eggplant
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| Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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eggplant wrote:
Yes, this is a scam, the giveaway is a selection of random images.... that could only come from eBay listings. Particularly those which look taken in a studio.
You can see when you reverse image search them:
Then again, there's even scam listings on eBay using other people's eBay photos, but they've died down recently. |
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D1N0
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| Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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D1N0 wrote:
When you get your money back or a lens I will tell you it is not a scam.
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philslizzy
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| Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 12:31 am Post subject: |
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philslizzy wrote:
as they say if it looks too good to be true then it probably is.
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tb_a
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| Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 6:37 am Post subject: |
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tb_a wrote:
More and more similar sites are offering "bargains". There are many advertisings on Facebook and similar sites not only for camera gear.....
The first issue to check is wheather there is a plausible impressum with all the legal stuff; particularly the registration location of the company and contact details. If there is none at all like on this site then it's most probably fake and criminal.
If offerings are to cheap in comparison to other sites then keep off as well.
Obviously it works also the other way round: Stuff is presented with more than 50% special discount and is still available somewhere else for lower prices.
Generally I don't buy from unknown sources any longer; even non-prime offerings on Amazon may be fake or criminal. All that's by far too risky for my taste and I don't like troubles....
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Phalbert
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| Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 7:10 am Post subject: |
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Phalbert wrote:
To Caspert79. Yes I paid with the real paypal. Went to check my account details et changed my PW. But I managed to stop the payment with my bank. I already got a mail from some crook asking why I don't want his laptop anymore (initial order was for lenses...) I suppose now, with my adress, there will be more to come... 😕 What a mess. Lesson learned.
Thanks to everyone.
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🙋 My wishlist: Titan or Idaho 135/1,8 Nikon Df Nikkor 105/1,8 35/1,4 85/1,4
My dream lenses: Zuiko 180/2 Prototype Zuiko 85/1,4
Zeiss CY: 55/1,2 85/1,2
Astro Berlin 250/2 Canon EF 50/1,0 85/1,2
Nikkor 105/1,4 28/1,4
My stolen stuff: Zuiko 24/2 #106874; Zuiko 35-80/2,8 #102180; Zuiko 35/2 #119168; Zuiko 90/2 macro #102858; Zuiko x1,4 converter #102019; Tamron 17/3,5 #400567; Tamron 400/4 #80407; Soligor 135/2 #17506600 Sigma 28/1,8 #1001124 |
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Pancolart
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| Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:46 am Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
I guess their mistake is offering lenses too cheap to trick more people. I wonder what is the deal with those strange Chinese listings and what do they actually offer:
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/173921816282
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/223934031897
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/203275224985
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tb_a
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| Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:12 am Post subject: |
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tb_a wrote:
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| I guess their mistake is offering lenses too cheap to trick more people. I wonder what is the deal with those strange Chinese listings and what do they actually offer: |
The offering is clear. Some home made modifications of Pancolars with M39 mount and an original one at insane pricing.
In some parts of the world "Zeiss" and "Germany" are still selling for unbelievable prices, most probably these buyers dont know that you can buy such a M42 Pancolar for max. Euro 30 at a fleamarket in Europe.
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Pancolart
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| Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
| tb_a wrote: |
| Pancolart wrote: |
| I guess their mistake is offering lenses too cheap to trick more people. I wonder what is the deal with those strange Chinese listings and what do they actually offer: |
The offering is clear. Some home made modifications of Pancolars with M39 mount and an original one at insane pricing.
In some parts of the world "Zeiss" and "Germany" are still selling for unbelievable prices, most probably these buyers dont know that you can buy such a M42 Pancolar for max. Euro 30 at a fleamarket in Europe. |
It is 1.4/55mm version 
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tb_a
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| Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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tb_a wrote:
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| It is 1.4/55mm version |
OK, Euro 60 then... 
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Thomas Bernardy
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