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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:37 pm    Post subject: wich 28 mm Reply with quote

28 mm. lens

Nor Leica nor Zeiss.

Wich is the best.

Any mount.

28/2,8 lens.


PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're going to be spoiled for choice, it's a very competitive product from every manufacturer.

My 28 / 2.8's - in no particular order

Super Paragon ( Cimko ) very average, I expected more from a Cimko
Hanimex MC. Don't even think about it, a stinker.
Chinon Auto Reflex. I like this, it's a good lens ( Tomioka ?? )
Vivitar in all it's forms seems very good, especially the close focus Komine. ( but the VMC f1.9 is my go to 28mm lens every time )
Tamron BBAR CW28. excellent lens, and cheap.
Yashica DSB. Not bad at all, cool colours but sharp.
Yashica ML. A much better lens than the DSB, A top quality lens, recommended.
Hoya HMC. Slightly above average, it's good - but not great.
Tefnon. Maybe...just slightly better than the Hoya ?
Tokina. Didn't like it at all, maybe a bad copy. Got rid of it.
Olympus Zuiko Auto W. A great lens, hard to fault.
Clubman MC Auto. Same as the Tefnon, I think it's a rebadged lens in a slightly different barrel.
Konica Wide Close Focus. Sold to a forum member, and he loved it.


PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I second the Yashica ML. Got one for $30 on a recommendation from someone here about 7 years ago. Great sometimes punchy color, sharp.


PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lloydy wrote:
You're going to be spoiled for choice, it's a very competitive product from every manufacturer.

My 28 / 2.8's - in no particular order

Super Paragon ( Cimko ) very average, I expected more from a Cimko
Hanimex MC. Don't even think about it, a stinker.
Chinon Auto Reflex. I like this, it's a good lens ( Tomioka ?? )
Vivitar in all it's forms seems very good, especially the close focus Komine. ( but the VMC f1.9 is my go to 28mm lens every time )
Tamron BBAR CW28. excellent lens, and cheap.
Yashica DSB. Not bad at all, cool colours but sharp.
Yashica ML. A much better lens than the DSB, A top quality lens, recommended.
Hoya HMC. Slightly above average, it's good - but not great.
Tefnon. Maybe...just slightly better than the Hoya ?
Tokina. Didn't like it at all, maybe a bad copy. Got rid of it.
Olympus Zuiko Auto W. A great lens, hard to fault.
Clubman MC Auto. Same as the Tefnon, I think it's a rebadged lens in a slightly different barrel.
Konica Wide Close Focus. Sold to a forum member, and he loved it.


Like Dog

Than you, very much.

So I shall look for:

Chinon Auto Reflex.

VMC f1.9

Tamron BBAR CW28

Yashica ML

Olympus Zuiko Auto W. A


PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kram wrote:
I second the Yashica ML. Got one for $30 on a recommendation from someone here about 7 years ago. Great sometimes punchy color, sharp.


Thank you, another ML fan


PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ohhh....

There are two versions.

Which are you talking about?

https://ec.yimg.com/ec?url=http%3A%2F%2Folypedia.de%2Fstatic%2Fimages%2F4%2F47%2FML_28_2.8_Beipack_loeffel.jpg&t=1492644486&sig=JQDkITpD.bSVEaDPltMKCw--~C


PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 2:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lloydy wrote:

Vivitar in all it's forms seems very good, especially the close focus Komine. ( but the VMC f1.9 is my go to 28mm lens every time )

I second the Vivitar 28/2.0 Close Focus (Komine version) and the Vivitar 28/1.9. Both great.
The Vivitar 28/2.8 Macro (made by Cosina) is a fun lens that seems optimized for close focusing (it performs great, with smooth bokeh!).
The Nikon 28/2.0 AIS is also great.

EDIT: The Cosina-made macro Vivitar is actually a 24mm:
http://forum.mflenses.com/vivitar-mc-wide-angle-24mm-f2-8-by-cosina-t74001,highlight,%2Bcosina+%2B24+%2B2+%2B8.html
And there's also a Cosina-branded version:
http://forum.mflenses.com/om-cosina-24mm-f2-8-t69573,highlight,%2Bcosina+%2B24+%2B2+%2B8.html


PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 2:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You may have a look at my 28mm lens comparison:
http://forum.mflenses.com/28mm-lens-comparison-pentax-minolta-topcon-cv-kmz-t76791.html

My favorite is the CV 28mm/F1.9.
More examples from this lens are shown here:
http://forum.mflenses.com/voigtlander-ultron-28mm-f1-9-aspherical-in-m39-ltm-t72400.html


PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 3:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tb_a wrote:
You may have a look at my 28mm lens comparison:
http://forum.mflenses.com/28mm-lens-comparison-pentax-minolta-topcon-cv-kmz-t76791.html

My favorite is the CV 28mm/F1.9.
More examples from this lens are shown here:
http://forum.mflenses.com/voigtlander-ultron-28mm-f1-9-aspherical-in-m39-ltm-t72400.html


Thomas' comparison tests are very good.
I might add another lens to the mix for consideration - the SMC Pentax K 28mm f3.5
A little slower, but a cracker of a lens
Tom


PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 5:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lloydy wrote:

Konica Wide Close Focus.


If you're referring to the 7 element 3.5/28: that is a top lens!

By the way: my Tokina RMC 2.8/28 is very good, take a look here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/chantalrene/albums/72157630430002884


PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TrueLoveOne wrote:
Lloydy wrote:

Konica Wide Close Focus.


If you're referring to the 7 element 3.5/28: that is a top lens!

By the way: my Tokina RMC 2.8/28 is very good, take a look here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/chantalrene/albums/72157630430002884


I like the RMC Tokina 2.8/28mm as well as my TOPCOR RM 2.8/28mm (not UV version) and Vivitar 1.9/28mm


PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have Rokkor 28/2 MC and Canon FD SSC 28/2, I love both of them.


PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have no idea which 28mm is the best, but my best 28mm is the Minolta MDiii 28mm f2.8 5/5 version.

This thread might be of some interest.

http://forum.mflenses.com/your-best-28-and-how-you-got-there-t45236.html


PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My favorite is the Vivitar Series 1 VMC 28mm 1.9. Like 1 small


PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The SMC Pentax 28mm F3.5 is very good, the smc Pentax-m 28mm 3.5 is not much worse. I also enjoy shooting with the Pentacon 29mm F2.8


PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

2.8/28mm lenses were usually the "bread-and-butter"-lenses for any manufacturer (together with the 2.8/135mm and the standard 50mm lenses, of course). This means that there were obvious restrictions for the engineer - i onther words they had to find the right balance between price and quality. Only exception was probably Leica and - to a certain extent - Nikon with their rather expensive 2.8/28mm Nikkor.

Here are a few remarks (using them on 24 MP FF):

Canon FD 2.8/28mm SC and Canon nFD 2.8/28mm: good allround lenses, a bit more resolution and lower contrast than the [7/7] Minolta 2.8/28mm
Konica Hexanon 3.5/28mm [7 lens version]: good allround lens with low distortion
Konica Hexanon 3.5/28mm [5 lens version]: corners are weaker than with the 7-lens version
Mamiya Sekor E 2.8/28mm: on film it was very good; not tested digitally!
Minolta MC-X, MD-I, MD-II 2.8/28mm [7/7]: good allround lens, visible CAs (red-green), rather low distortion
MD-III 2.8/28mm [5/5]: corners weaker than with the [7/7] Minolta 2.8/28mm
Nikkor Ai 2.8/28mm: nice lens, good resolution, CAs relatively low (broader than Minolta, but less visible; blueish-yellow)
Yashica ML 2.8/28mm [7 lens version]: corners rather weak, worst lens of the bunch. Be aware thet there's an 8-lens version which may be better!
Zeiss Distagon CY 2.8/28mm: even though it's one of the weakest (and cheapest!) Zeiss CY lenses, I would say it's the best of the bunch, but only by a small margin!. Less CA than the Minolta, some field curvature, but all other aberratioins rather well corrected.

If i've time over the weekend, and if the weather is OK, i'll post an upgrade to my recent 28mm Rokkor test (http://artaphot.ch/minolta-sr/objektiv-vergleiche/506-minolta-mc-md-28mm-lenses-on-24mp-full-frame).

Stephan

Stephan


PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Favorite 28's -

SMC Pentax 28/2 "Hollywood"/"Distagon"

Vivitar 28/2 Close Focus (Komine)

SMC Pentax 28/3.5

Vivitar Series 1 28/1.9


PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 5:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The SMC K 28/3.8 is probably one of the best 28's, it compares to Zeiss and Leica 28's, only much cheaper.
Klaus, you have a typo, with the Topcor RE 28/2.8, which I agree that it's good.
Minolta 28/2.5 is one of my favourites.
X-Fujinon 28/1.9


PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lightshow wrote:
The SMC K 28/3.8 is probably one of the best 28's, it compares to Zeiss and Leica 28's, only much cheaper.
Klaus, you have a typo, [...]

And that's also the SMC K 28/3.5, too, I assume, Lightshow.

[We all do - or should - try to point out and correct typos, for the sake of keeping us all on track and, as much as is possible, out of the sea of confusion - LOL.]


PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

invisible wrote:
Lloydy wrote:

Vivitar in all it's forms seems very good, especially the close focus Komine. ( but the VMC f1.9 is my go to 28mm lens every time )

I second the Vivitar 28/2.0 Close Focus (Komine version) and the Vivitar 28/1.9. Both great.
The Vivitar 28/2.8 Macro (made by Cosina) is a fun lens that seems optimized for close focusing (it performs great, with smooth bokeh!).
The Nikon 28/2.0 AIS is also great.

EDIT: The Cosina-made macro Vivitar is actually a 24mm:
http://forum.mflenses.com/vivitar-mc-wide-angle-24mm-f2-8-by-cosina-t74001,highlight,%2Bcosina+%2B24+%2B2+%2B8.html
And there's also a Cosina-branded version:
http://forum.mflenses.com/om-cosina-24mm-f2-8-t69573,highlight,%2Bcosina+%2B24+%2B2+%2B8.html


Thank you.

The two vivitars and the Nikon are in my list now


PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tb_a wrote:
You may have a look at my 28mm lens comparison:
http://forum.mflenses.com/28mm-lens-comparison-pentax-minolta-topcon-cv-kmz-t76791.html

My favorite is the CV 28mm/F1.9.
More examples from this lens are shown here:
http://forum.mflenses.com/voigtlander-ultron-28mm-f1-9-aspherical-in-m39-ltm-t72400.html


Thanks.

The Topcor and the CV are added.


PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oldhand wrote:
tb_a wrote:
You may have a look at my 28mm lens comparison:
http://forum.mflenses.com/28mm-lens-comparison-pentax-minolta-topcon-cv-kmz-t76791.html

My favorite is the CV 28mm/F1.9.
More examples from this lens are shown here:
http://forum.mflenses.com/voigtlander-ultron-28mm-f1-9-aspherical-in-m39-ltm-t72400.html


Thomas' comparison tests are very good.
I might add another lens to the mix for consideration - the SMC Pentax K 28mm f3.5
A little slower, but a cracker of a lens
Tom


Thanks.
The SMC is now added.


PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TrueLoveOne wrote:
Lloydy wrote:

Konica Wide Close Focus.


If you're referring to the 7 element 3.5/28: that is a top lens!

By the way: my Tokina RMC 2.8/28 is very good, take a look here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/chantalrene/albums/72157630430002884


Thanks.

Konica first version 7 elements is into the list.


PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kds315* wrote:
TrueLoveOne wrote:
Lloydy wrote:

Konica Wide Close Focus.


If you're referring to the 7 element 3.5/28: that is a top lens!

By the way: my Tokina RMC 2.8/28 is very good, take a look here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/chantalrene/albums/72157630430002884


I like the RMC Tokina 2.8/28mm as well as my TOPCOR RM 2.8/28mm (not UV version) and Vivitar 1.9/28mm


Thank you.

The three were in my list.

The Topcor should be very good.


PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IAZA wrote:
I have Rokkor 28/2 MC and Canon FD SSC 28/2, I love both of them.


Thank you.

Both in my list now.