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William35
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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:06 pm Post subject: What are the lightest 85mm lenses, f2 or faster? |
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William35 wrote:
Looking for something relatively small and lightweight, if such a lens exists. |
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kansalliskala
Joined: 19 Jul 2007 Posts: 5025 Location: Southern Finland countryside
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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:11 pm Post subject: |
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OM Zuiko 85/2 perhaps? _________________ MF: Kodak DCS SLR/c; Samsung NX10; OM-10; Canon T50
Zuiko 28/3.5, Distagon 35/2.8; Yashica ML 50/2;
Zuiko 50/1.4; S-M-C 120/2.8; Zuiko 135/3.5; 200/5;
Tamron AD1 135/2.8, Soligor 180/3.5; Tamron AD1 300/5.6
Tamron zooms: 01A, Z-210
Yashicaflex C; Київ 4 + Юпитер 8, 11; Polaroid 100; Olympus XA; Yashica T3
Museum stuff: Certo-Phot; Tele-Edixon 135; Polaris 90-190; Asahi Bellows; Ixus IIs
Projects: Agfa Isolette III (no shutter), Canon AE-1D (no sensor),
Nikon D80 (dead), The "Peace Camera"
AF: Canon, Tokina, Sigma Video: JVC GZ-MG275E |
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tb_a
Joined: 26 Jan 2010 Posts: 3678 Location: Austria
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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:33 pm Post subject: Re: What are the lightest 85mm lenses, f2 or faster? |
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tb_a wrote:
William35 wrote: |
Looking for something relatively small and lightweight, if such a lens exists. |
Would be helpful if you state your camera model (for compatibility reasons) or would you take any lens mount? _________________ Thomas Bernardy
Manual focus lenses mainly from Minolta, Pentax, Voigtlaender, Leitz, Topcon and from Russia (too many to be listed here). |
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kryss
Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Posts: 2169 Location: Canada
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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 4:16 pm Post subject: |
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kryss wrote:
Nikon H 85mm f1.8 ?? _________________ Do not trust Atoms....they make up everything. |
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William35
Joined: 20 Feb 2015 Posts: 9
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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 4:44 pm Post subject: Re: What are the lightest 85mm lenses, f2 or faster? |
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William35 wrote:
tb_a wrote: |
William35 wrote: |
Looking for something relatively small and lightweight, if such a lens exists. |
Would be helpful if you state your camera model (for compatibility reasons) or would you take any lens mount? |
Sony A7. I LOVE the bokeh the Helios 40-2 85mm f1.5 is capable of, that's the lens I really want, but at almost 2 lbs, I'm worried it might be a bit too much. And thanks to the person who mentioned the Olympus. It is indeed lightweight. |
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coase
Joined: 08 Aug 2016 Posts: 99
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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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coase wrote:
Probably hard to beat the Olympus on size and weight, but I find the Rokinon 85mm 1.4 to be excellent and reasonable in weight though a bit large. Certainly it's a lot lighter than the Helios and if you get a good copy it is very sharp from f2 on. And its bokeh is quite nice at f1.4. |
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William35
Joined: 20 Feb 2015 Posts: 9
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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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William35 wrote:
coase wrote: |
Probably hard to beat the Olympus on size and weight, but I find the Rokinon 85mm 1.4 to be excellent and reasonable in weight though a bit large. Certainly it's a lot lighter than the Helios and if you get a good copy it is very sharp from f2 on. And its bokeh is quite nice at f1.4. |
Thanks. I hadn't considered it because it looks so big in pics. But it is certainly affordable and f1.4 would be nice to have. |
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papasito
Joined: 09 Jan 2015 Posts: 1658
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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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papasito wrote:
1- Olympus
2- Nikkor 85/2
3-Minolta MD 85/2 |
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William35
Joined: 20 Feb 2015 Posts: 9
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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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William35 wrote:
papasito wrote: |
1- Olympus
2- Nikkor 85/2
3-Minolta MD 85/2 |
Any preference for one over the other? My favorite lens is the Konica 40mm f1.8. I wonder which of these would pair the best with it. I'm thinking the Minolta. |
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glaebhoerl
Joined: 03 May 2014 Posts: 100 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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glaebhoerl wrote:
There's also a Pentax-M 85/2, though last I heard reviews of it were unfavorable relative to the Zuiko. _________________ use: 40/1.4 Zuiko; 50/1.4 Takumar; 85/2 Rokkor; 105/2.5 Nikkor; 200/5 Zuiko.
have: Lens Turbo II; 20/2.8 Flektogon; "25/1.4 APS-C"; 28/2.8 Industar; 35/1.8 Rokkor; 35-70/3.5 Rokkor; 50/1.4 Prakticar; 50/1.7 Zenitar-M; 50/1.8 Pancolar; 50/2 Jupiter; 55/2.8 Industar; 57/1.4 Hexanon; 58/1.8 RE.Auto-Topcor; 58/2 Helios; 100/2.8 Zuiko; 135/2.8 Pentacon, Yashica ML; 135/3.5 Pentax-M, Rokkor, Fujinon; 180/5.6 Sigma; 200/5.6 Tele-Takumar.
want: 12/2 Samyang; 20/4 Pentax-M; 24/2.8 Zuiko; 28/3.5 Pentax; 35/2.4 Prakticar; 35/3.5 Takumar; 50/1.5 Sonnar; 58/2 Small Biotar; 75/1.8 Fujinon-TV; 100/3.5 Canon (LTM); 135/2.5 Takumar; 135/3.5 Prakticar.
in my dreams: 80/1.8 Prakticar; 90/2.8 Tele-Elmarit-M; 180/4 APO-Lanthar; 250/5.6 Rokkor.
reviews flickr |
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papasito
Joined: 09 Jan 2015 Posts: 1658
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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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papasito wrote:
William35 wrote: |
papasito wrote: |
1- Olympus
2- Nikkor 85/2
3-Minolta MD 85/2 |
Any preference for one over the other? My favorite lens is the Konica 40mm f1.8. I wonder which of these would pair the best with it. I'm thinking the Minolta. |
We are speacking about a portrait lens or an all around one? |
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William35
Joined: 20 Feb 2015 Posts: 9
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Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2017 12:04 am Post subject: |
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William35 wrote:
papasito wrote: |
William35 wrote: |
papasito wrote: |
1- Olympus
2- Nikkor 85/2
3-Minolta MD 85/2 |
Any preference for one over the other? My favorite lens is the Konica 40mm f1.8. I wonder which of these would pair the best with it. I'm thinking the Minolta. |
We are speacking about a portrait lens or an all around one? |
Primarily portraiture. |
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vanylapep
Joined: 03 Jan 2014 Posts: 312
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Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2017 12:58 am Post subject: |
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vanylapep wrote:
Well Contax G Zeiss 90/2 but maybe that's cheating |
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padam
Joined: 09 Oct 2012 Posts: 175 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:06 am Post subject: |
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padam wrote:
The Minolta MD 85/2 is lighter (more plastic) and sharper while the Zuiko 85/2 is smaller and has smoother bokeh.
Pick whatever you like |
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6006 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:31 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
No idea if it is the lightest - you can check for yourself - but the Canon FDn 1.8/85 deserves a look.
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https://suggestionofmotion.com/wp-content/uploads/Canon_FD_85mm_f1-8_LT.jpg |
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kansalliskalaCafe
Joined: 23 Jul 2015 Posts: 602 Location: South Finland, countryside
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Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2017 8:43 am Post subject: |
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kansalliskalaCafe wrote:
padam wrote: |
The Minolta MD 85/2 is lighter (more plastic) and sharper while the Zuiko 85/2 is smaller and has smoother bokeh. |
Zuikos do have a fungus problem, so be careful. _________________ (my normal account password still on another computer) |
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memetph
Joined: 01 Dec 2013 Posts: 942 Location: Poland
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Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2017 10:34 am Post subject: |
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memetph wrote:
Pentax M 85 f2 : 251 g
I just got one to use on my Sony A7 and I love it. |
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dickb
Joined: 04 Apr 2008 Posts: 821
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Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2017 1:38 pm Post subject: Re: What are the lightest 85mm lenses, f2 or faster? |
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dickb wrote:
William35 wrote: |
I LOVE the bokeh the Helios 40-2 85mm f1.5 is capable of, that's the lens I really want, but at almost 2 lbs, I'm worried it might be a bit too much. |
If you don't mind losing the aperture the Cyclop 85mm f/1.5 might be a good lens for you, with the Helios 40-2 glass in a much lighter housing. It weighs 450g, 1 lbs. I'm not sure whether that is with or without the tripod mount. |
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padam
Joined: 09 Oct 2012 Posts: 175 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2017 5:46 pm Post subject: |
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padam wrote:
kansalliskalaCafe wrote: |
padam wrote: |
The Minolta MD 85/2 is lighter (more plastic) and sharper while the Zuiko 85/2 is smaller and has smoother bokeh. |
Zuikos do have a fungus problem, so be careful. |
I had many of them and very few Zuikos had it (85/2 was perfect), so I really don't think it is brand specific, it is more to do with the climate (for instance, much more likely to occur if it comes from Japan) |
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listera
Joined: 24 Oct 2013 Posts: 126 Location: Ankara
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Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2017 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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listera wrote:
padam wrote: |
kansalliskalaCafe wrote: |
padam wrote: |
The Minolta MD 85/2 is lighter (more plastic) and sharper while the Zuiko 85/2 is smaller and has smoother bokeh. |
Zuikos do have a fungus problem, so be careful. |
I had many of them and very few Zuikos had it (85/2 was perfect), so I really don't think it is brand specific, it is more to do with the climate (for instance, much more likely to occur if it comes from Japan) |
+1 _________________ Zuikoware / Rokkorprone / FDthropist
https://www.flickr.com/photos/97103793@N06/ |
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kansalliskala
Joined: 19 Jul 2007 Posts: 5025 Location: Southern Finland countryside
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Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2017 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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kansalliskala wrote:
padam wrote: |
I really don't think it is brand specific, it is more to do with the climate (for instance, much more likely to occur if it comes from Japan) |
Actually I got all my Zuikos from Japan, they are plenty and cheap there .. _________________ MF: Kodak DCS SLR/c; Samsung NX10; OM-10; Canon T50
Zuiko 28/3.5, Distagon 35/2.8; Yashica ML 50/2;
Zuiko 50/1.4; S-M-C 120/2.8; Zuiko 135/3.5; 200/5;
Tamron AD1 135/2.8, Soligor 180/3.5; Tamron AD1 300/5.6
Tamron zooms: 01A, Z-210
Yashicaflex C; Київ 4 + Юпитер 8, 11; Polaroid 100; Olympus XA; Yashica T3
Museum stuff: Certo-Phot; Tele-Edixon 135; Polaris 90-190; Asahi Bellows; Ixus IIs
Projects: Agfa Isolette III (no shutter), Canon AE-1D (no sensor),
Nikon D80 (dead), The "Peace Camera"
AF: Canon, Tokina, Sigma Video: JVC GZ-MG275E |
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Lightshow
Joined: 04 Nov 2011 Posts: 3669 Location: Calgary
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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 2:40 pm Post subject: Re: What are the lightest 85mm lenses, f2 or faster? |
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Lightshow wrote:
William35 wrote: |
tb_a wrote: |
William35 wrote: |
Looking for something relatively small and lightweight, if such a lens exists. |
Would be helpful if you state your camera model (for compatibility reasons) or would you take any lens mount? |
Sony A7. I LOVE the bokeh the Helios 40-2 85mm f1.5 is capable of, that's the lens I really want, but at almost 2 lbs, I'm worried it might be a bit too much. And thanks to the person who mentioned the Olympus. It is indeed lightweight. |
I wanted the Helios 40, I bought one but it was damaged, so it went back, I then came across this post:
http://forum.mflenses.com/meopta-meostigmat-1-4-70-on-ff-and-nex-via-vnex-t55218.html
And bought one asap, but couldn't find a good mounting solution, till hinnerker posted his V-NEX conversion, I ended up buying one, I have little desire to buy a Helios 40 now, other than to have one to go with my early sn0000xxx Helios 44, it's basically the same optical formula but much smaller and no aperture control, another option is the CZJ thin version of their Biotar 75/1.5. _________________ A Manual Focus Junky...
One photographers junk lens is an artists favorite tool.
My lens list
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lightshow-photography/ |
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cooltouch
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 9097 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
Oldhand beat me to it. I own a copy of the Canon New FD 85/1.8. It is very compact, but honestly my impression of it whenever I pick it up is that it is a very dense optic. Dense as in weighing quite a lot for its given volume. But then I guess that's to be expected because of its compact size and 1.8 max aperture. It is an excellent performer, though.
NEX 7, Canon nFD 85/1.8 @ f/2.8:
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padam
Joined: 09 Oct 2012 Posts: 175 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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padam wrote:
kansalliskala wrote: |
padam wrote: |
I really don't think it is brand specific, it is more to do with the climate (for instance, much more likely to occur if it comes from Japan) |
Actually I got all my Zuikos from Japan, they are plenty and cheap there .. |
Not that cheap anymore (both price-wise and also regarding exchange) and harder to find in mint condition as well - but not impossible either
I really need to re-acquaint with that 100/2 ED... |
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hasan
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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hasan wrote:
I'll throw in the fantastic Pancolar 80/1.8. (5mm are negligible) |
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