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Finally,I saw a Konica hexanon ZOOM 58-400mm F4
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 2:41 am    Post subject: Finally,I saw a Konica hexanon ZOOM 58-400mm F4 Reply with quote

I never seen any pictures about this on internet(even google)!

this is first time for konica fans!

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congrats


PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WOW that's an important moment for all Konica fans Wink

Stephan


PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like 1 small Thank you for sharing! I had never seen a picture of this lens.


PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Remarkable!!


PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool.
I wonder how it would compare with Canon's nFD 50-300L?


PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lightshow wrote:
Cool.
I wonder how it would compare with Canon's nFD 50-300L?


Not very favorable, for sure.


PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dang, that thing is a monster!


PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Finally,I saw a Konica hexanon ZOOM 58-400mm F4 Reply with quote

ysyyu wrote:
I never seen any pictures about this on internet(even google)!

this is first time for konica fans!

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Wow! Congratulations! This (and the 2000/11 mirror) are probably the two most elusive of Hexanons. I have an early 1966 Japanese brochure with a photo of it, but I've never seen one in the flesh or known anyone who has. Until today, that is. You are the man!! Smile

Do you still have access to it? (Did you buy it?) I would like to know what its exact dimensions are for my Hexanon lens table ( https://sites.google.com/site/tks0en/3-hexanon-ar-lenses/-comparative-table ). Right now the table gives rough estimates based on the known dimensions of the 400/4.5, which sits right next to the 58-400/4 on the above mentioned brochure.

It seems to have been available for only a year or two (1965-1966) and was supposed to be a very decent lens for zooms of similar range at the time.


PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Impressive! Congrats!


PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry but i must ask: did Konica made it? Looks a bit like 3rd party product.


PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 5:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Finally,I saw a Konica hexanon ZOOM 58-400mm F4 Reply with quote

OH! Sorry, I had missed it.
It showed in Japan yahoo auction and ended price about $750 USD!

konicamera wrote:
ysyyu wrote:
I never seen any pictures about this on internet(even google)!



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Wow! Congratulations! This (and the 2000/11 mirror) are probably the two most elusive of Hexanons. I have an early 1966 Japanese brochure with a photo of it, but I've never seen one in the flesh or known anyone who has. Until today, that is. You are the man!! Smile

Do you still have access to it? (Did you buy it?) I would like to know what its exact dimensions are for my Hexanon lens table ( https://sites.google.com/site/tks0en/3-hexanon-ar-lenses/-comparative-table ). Right now the table gives rough estimates based on the known dimensions of the 400/4.5, which sits right next to the 58-400/4 on the above mentioned brochure.

It seems to have been available for only a year or two (1965-1966) and was supposed to be a very decent lens for zooms of similar range at the time.


PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe "konicamera" know it's history! ^^

In internet, you only can find like this short description "An early, huge, heavy, manual lens. Weight is 4.3 kilograms, uses 55mm drop-in filters. 9 groups and 14 elements. Now very rare."
That's all!


Pancolart wrote:
Sorry but i must ask: did Konica made it? Looks a bit like 3rd party product.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

YES! just only 4.3 KG!!
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devinw wrote:
Dang, that thing is a monster!


PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pancolart wrote:
Sorry but i must ask: did Konica made it? Looks a bit like 3rd party product.


My first though was that it looked stylistically very similar to an old SUN 80-240 zoom lens that I've got, which is a truly awful lens.


PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow! This one is even more impressif than my Konica Hexanon AR 400mm 4.5 and it weights twice as much!!


PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pancolart wrote:
Sorry but i must ask: did Konica made it? Looks a bit like 3rd party product.

It is very possible that some 3P maker made it. Style-wise, it does indeed look like some zooms Sun Optics made, although the Sun zooms I am thinking of are mostly 1970s vintage lenses. I used to have a Sun-made 85-240 zoom, whose entire barrel was aluminum and the focusing ring had the same type of 45-degree beveled edge I associate with Sun. I also have a 55-300/4.5 Petri zoom from that vintage and it also looks a bit similar.

I think that generally most zooms in the 1960s were probably made by 3P makers. The most likely maker, besides Sun, would be Tokina, which was probably not making lenses under its own name yet (middle 1960s), but was fast earning a reputation as a zoom specialist. I suspect Konica's 70-230 may have been made by Tokina as a eerily similar lens was being sold at the time under half a dozen brands.


PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

quidam wrote:
Wow! This one is even more impressif than my Konica Hexanon AR 400mm 4.5 and it weights twice as much!!

Yes, a heavy beast. I believe the threads on the front of the lens are 113mm and it is a 14/9 construction. So lots of glass, probably with an all-brass barrel to hold all of it together. Smile


PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congrats


PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh god, I apologize, but can´t find the aperture ring.

Where is it?


PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't see it either...


PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

papasito wrote:
Oh god, I apologize, but can´t find the aperture ring.

Where is it?

The aperture ring is the last one on the thickest part of the barrel. The markings are on the other side of the lens. The index mark is in line with the aluminum protrusion to the left on the photo (that protrusion is the thingy you grab to pull out the filter holder - this lens has inserted filters, thank God as the filter ring is an alleged 113mm). When I get home, I will upload a photo later showing the lens from the other side.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 8:00 am    Post subject: Re: Finally,I saw a Konica hexanon ZOOM 58-400mm F4 Reply with quote

ysyyu wrote:
OH! Sorry, I had missed it.
It showed in Japan yahoo auction and ended price about $750 USD!


I'm sorry you didn't get it. I don't expect spectacular optical performance for this lens, but at $750, it is still a steal if you're a collector. During my 3-decades long interest in things Konica, this is the first time I see this lens being offered anywhere. That's how rare it is. I wonder if more than a few dozen were made. Do you have a link to that auction BTW? I tried to find it in completed auctions on Yahoo Japan, but no luck. I wonder what the seller said in the description.


PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 12:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Finally,I saw a Konica hexanon ZOOM 58-400mm F4 Reply with quote

konicamera wrote:
ysyyu wrote:
OH! Sorry, I had missed it.
It showed in Japan yahoo auction and ended price about $750 USD!


I'm sorry you didn't get it. I don't expect spectacular optical performance for this lens, but at $750, it is still a steal if you're a collector. During my 3-decades long interest in things Konica, this is the first time I see this lens being offered anywhere. That's how rare it is. I wonder if more than a few dozen were made. Do you have a link to that auction BTW? I tried to find it in completed auctions on Yahoo Japan, but no luck. I wonder what the seller said in the description.


here is :
http://page13.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/r164862948

the seller put this lens in one "package" ><


PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Belatedly, here is a fast scan of the brochure I mentioned above, with the 58-400/4 in the upper left corner. One can see the aperture markings on the right-most ring. Strangely enough, those markings can't be seen on the auction photos, even though the lens is shown from both sides.