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Sjak
Joined: 29 Sep 2017 Posts: 696
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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 7:47 pm Post subject: looking for affordable spot exposure meter |
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Sjak wrote:
Looks like I'm getting an old film camera later this summer, and besides, the metering on my Monochrom is also a bit pedestrian. Therefore looking for an exposure meter, preferably a spot exposure meter, so I can decide the exposure based on the main subject of my image.
Any recommendations?
Would prefer something analog |
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visualopsins
Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 10463 Location: California
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Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 3:38 am Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
Don't know budget. I liked Asahi Spotmeter. DSLR have spot meter mode. _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
Cameras: Sony A7Rii, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
M42 Asahi Optical Co., Lenses:
Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200
Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300
Macro-Takumar 1:4/50
Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm
Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element),
Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17
Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500
Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100
Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100
SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
Other lenses:
Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51BB), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto
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tb_a
Joined: 26 Jan 2010 Posts: 3678 Location: Austria
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Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 7:48 am Post subject: |
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tb_a wrote:
I have both the Soligor Digital Spot Sensor and the Minolta Spot Meter M. The Minolta is more sophisticated but the Soligor is much easier to use and IMHO more than good enough. I only bought the additional Minolta one because it was a great bargain (almost for free). However, both are digital. I consider digital better and easier to use compared to analog, but that's possibly a matter of taste. _________________ Thomas Bernardy
Manual focus lenses mainly from Minolta, Pentax, Voigtlaender, Leitz, Topcon and from Russia (too many to be listed here). |
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cooltouch
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 9097 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 2:20 pm Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
It seems that most spotmeters have held their value fairly well over the years. I have a Pentax Spotmeter V that I bought back in about 1990 for about $70. Nowadays I see prices for it well over $200.
Seems to me that, if you're into finding a budget spotmeter, one option open to you will be to buy a camera that has a spotmeter mode, a model that might not cost all that much. The Canon T90 comes to mind. I bought my copy -- everything works on it by the way -- for about $90 off eBay. One of the nice things about the T90 is it will do spot averaging, where you can take several spot readings and it will average them for you. _________________ Michael
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dan_
Joined: 05 Dec 2012 Posts: 1052 Location: Romania
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Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 6:12 am Post subject: |
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dan_ wrote:
cooltouch wrote: |
...one option open to you will be to buy a camera that has a spotmeter mode... |
I fully agree.
I have a Sekonic L508 Zoom Master which is a top-of-the-range modern spotmeter but in the (unfortunately) rare situations when I shoot film I prefer to use a Pentax Optio-750z camera in the spotmeter mode. This is a camera designed from the start to be used as a spot-meter, if needed. The benefits are that you can use the zoom to spot very precisely the meterring circle, you can make the average of 2 metered spots and it is pocketable (smaller than the Sekonic). My Sekonic has other advantages in professional use but I almost never really needed them. That's why I'll probably sell it soon and only keep the Optio.
I had a Soligor analog spotmeter, as well. In low light it was difficult to read, the sensibility in the deep shadows areas was not that great, it didn't make the average of more measurements and was bigger (not poketable) than both of my other options. That's why I sold it.
I'll recommend the Optio-750z as it only costs ~40-50$, it's pocketable and does everything a good spotmeter does. Another additional benefit is that you can always take a digital test-shoot of your film shoot, as well. |
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uddhava
Joined: 22 Aug 2012 Posts: 3071 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 9:00 am Post subject: |
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uddhava wrote:
dan_ wrote: |
...I prefer to use a Pentax Optio-750z camera in the spotmeter mode. This is a camera designed from the start to be used as a spot-meter, if needed. The benefits are that you can use the zoom to spot very precisely the meterring circle, you can make the average of 2 metered spots and it is pocketable (smaller than the Sekonic)....
I'll recommend the Optio-750z as it only costs ~40-50$, it's pocketable and does everything a good spotmeter does. Another additional benefit is that you can always take a digital test-shoot of your film shoot, as well. |
Interesting.
Is this the only version of the Optio that will work? Or any of them that has the spot-meter mode? |
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dan_
Joined: 05 Dec 2012 Posts: 1052 Location: Romania
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Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 9:46 am Post subject: |
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dan_ wrote:
AFAIK yes, few years ago when I've searched for a camera with a spot-meter mode it was the only Pentax model with this feature. |
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uddhava
Joined: 22 Aug 2012 Posts: 3071 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 11:55 am Post subject: |
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uddhava wrote:
dan_ wrote: |
AFAIK yes, few years ago when I've searched for a camera with a spot-meter mode it was the only Pentax model with this feature. |
Thank you. |
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Sjak
Joined: 29 Sep 2017 Posts: 696
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Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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Sjak wrote:
Thanks everybody for contributing with your experience, highly appreciated!
dan_ wrote: |
I'll recommend the Optio-750z as it only costs ~40-50$, it's pocketable and does everything a good spotmeter does. Another additional benefit is that you can always take a digital test-shoot of your film shoot, as well. |
This sounds like a reaally good idea!
I just checked a bit more about this camera, it's an interesting camera in its own right, so it feeds my itch for CCD-camera's, one of my vices besides lenses |
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visualopsins
Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 10463 Location: California
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Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
My old cellphone has camera with spot metering. There are many ligh light metering apps... _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
Cameras: Sony A7Rii, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
M42 Asahi Optical Co., Lenses:
Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200
Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300
Macro-Takumar 1:4/50
Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm
Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element),
Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17
Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500
Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100
Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100
SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
Other lenses:
Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51BB), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto
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Sjak
Joined: 29 Sep 2017 Posts: 696
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Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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Sjak wrote:
visualopsins wrote: |
My old cellphone has camera with spot metering. There are many ligh light metering apps... |
Well, I don't have a phone that supports apps ... but it has a 0.3MP camera |
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visualopsins
Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 10463 Location: California
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Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
Sjak wrote: |
visualopsins wrote: |
My old cellphone has camera with spot metering. There are many ligh light metering apps... |
Well, I don't have a phone that supports apps ... but it has a 0.3MP camera |
Ok, my phone might be newer. Lol
Samsung Galaxy S5, a few years old. $50 on ebay. 12MP. _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
Cameras: Sony A7Rii, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
M42 Asahi Optical Co., Lenses:
Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200
Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300
Macro-Takumar 1:4/50
Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm
Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element),
Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17
Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500
Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100
Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100
SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
Other lenses:
Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51BB), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto
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Sjak
Joined: 29 Sep 2017 Posts: 696
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Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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Sjak wrote:
Getting back to this one:
A local retiring photographer was selling some gear. I got a Minolta View Meter 9. Quick&easy to use, built to last.
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uddhava
Joined: 22 Aug 2012 Posts: 3071 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 7:51 am Post subject: |
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uddhava wrote:
Glad to hear a conclusion to this topic. |
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Minolfan
Joined: 30 Dec 2008 Posts: 3436 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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Minolfan wrote:
I still have a simple and rather cheap Pentax Optio 50.
Was ever too slow for regular use as a pocket camera.
But now I saw the comment on the 750 I digged up the manual of the 50.
And it has a spotmetering mode too!
Have to try it. Thanks for making me curious!
But ... the camera doesn't deliver a useful result of the metering!
This is no spotmeter for me!
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Minolfan
Joined: 30 Dec 2008 Posts: 3436 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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Minolfan wrote:
For normal metering I use a Gossen Polysix Electronic for years.
Somewhat big, but easy to use with metering in 30, 20 or 10 degrees.
A little viewfinder to see what you are metering.
Working on AA batteries! |
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NikonAIS
Joined: 23 Mar 2014 Posts: 215 Location: Pawleys Island, SC, US
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NikonAIS wrote:
Not really sure if this one falls within your "affordable" requirements but I have had a Pentax Spotmeter V for close to 40 years and it is still going strong. They are often found on Ebay for $150 or less. I got an adhesive Zone System placard from Zone VI that fits on the exposure scale that works perfectly with Ansel Adams' Zone System for just a few bucks. _________________ Nikon FTn, F2A, F3HP, F4E, F5, Nikkormat FT2, Nikon FE-2, Nikonos V, D850, D500 and D750. 8mm f/2.8 AIS, 16mm f/2.8 Fisheye AIS, 15mm f/3.5 AIS, 18mm f/3.5 AIS, 24mm f/2 AIS, 28mm f/2 AIS, 28mm f/3.5 Nikkor H non-AI, 25-50mm f/4 AIS, 28mm f/3.5 and 35mm f/2.8 UW-Nikkors, 35mm f/1.4 AIS, 50mm f/1.4 AIS, 50mm f/1.4 Nikkor-S, 50-135mm f/3.5 AIS, 55mm f/2.8 AIS Micro w/ PK-13, 80-200mm f/4 AIS, 85mm f/1.4 AIS, 105mm f/1.8 AIS, 10.5 cm f/2.5 non-AI, 105mm f/2.8 AIS Micro, 135mm f/2 AIS, 180mm f/2.8 ED AIS, 200mm f/4 Micro AIS and PN-11, 200mm f/2 ED-IF AIS, 300mm f/2.8 ED-IF AIS, 400mm f/2.8 ED-IF AIS, 500mm f/8 Reflex, 600mm f/4 ED-IF AIS, TC14B and TC300.
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kansalliskala
Joined: 19 Jul 2007 Posts: 5027 Location: Southern Finland countryside
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Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:31 am Post subject: |
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kansalliskala wrote:
dan_ wrote: |
I'll recommend the Optio-750z as it only costs ~40-50$, it's pocketable and does everything a good spotmeter does. Another additional benefit is that you can always take a digital test-shoot of your film shoot, as well. |
Thank you for a good idea. I have this real crap Canon A590 which has actually really good metering opitions, it runs on AA batteries, it is small and quick to start. You can buy them from 5 euros up.
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