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cellotone
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Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2016 5:40 pm Post subject: Shots taken with S & F versions CZJ Biotar 75/1.5 Lenses |
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cellotone wrote:
Here are some shots taken with the two different versions of the CZJ Biotar 75mm f1.5 lenses. Slim one serial # 3776XXX, and the later fat version serial # is 6243XXX:
Two lenses:
Shot w/the newer version: 6243XXX:
@ f1.5
Shot w/the older version: 3776XXX:
@ f1.5
Shot w/the newer version: 6243XXX:
@ f2
Shot w/the older version: 3776XXX:
@ f2
Shot w/the newer version: 6243XXX:
@ f4
Shot w/the older version: 3776XXX:
@ f4
It's hard to see the difference from my eyes . _________________ Nikon D600, Fujifilm X-E1, Sony A7R,
Leica R lenses, C/Y Zeiss lenses |
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16498 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2016 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Big difference!! The bottom leaves are missing!!! (last pic) _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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papasito
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Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2016 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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papasito wrote:
To my monitor and eyes, the oldest is sonething warm and a bit sharp. With more contrast and less flare I guess
The old is more CZJ classic rendering |
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cellotone
Joined: 13 Apr 2014 Posts: 317 Location: US
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Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2016 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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cellotone wrote:
@kds315*
The older one is easier to set aperture. _________________ Nikon D600, Fujifilm X-E1, Sony A7R,
Leica R lenses, C/Y Zeiss lenses |
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cellotone
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Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2016 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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cellotone wrote:
papasito wrote: |
To my monitor and eyes, the oldest is sonething warm and a bit sharp. With more contrast and less flare I guess
The old is more CZJ classic rendering |
_________________ Nikon D600, Fujifilm X-E1, Sony A7R,
Leica R lenses, C/Y Zeiss lenses |
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blotafton
Joined: 08 Aug 2013 Posts: 1534 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2016 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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blotafton wrote:
Both are beauties! |
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papasito
Joined: 09 Jan 2015 Posts: 1658
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Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2016 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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papasito wrote:
It seems adecuate to ask
Why the chance of thin to fat versions?
Anybody knows the story? |
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cellotone
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Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2016 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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cellotone wrote:
With carefully look at them, it seems the old lens has more clear, smooth, and transparent bokeh. Isn't it? _________________ Nikon D600, Fujifilm X-E1, Sony A7R,
Leica R lenses, C/Y Zeiss lenses
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cellotone
Joined: 13 Apr 2014 Posts: 317 Location: US
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Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2016 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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cellotone wrote:
papasito wrote: |
It seems adecuate to ask
Why the chance of thin to fat versions?
Anybody knows the story? |
I don't know it. May be you can tell us? _________________ Nikon D600, Fujifilm X-E1, Sony A7R,
Leica R lenses, C/Y Zeiss lenses |
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cellotone
Joined: 13 Apr 2014 Posts: 317 Location: US
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Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 3:57 am Post subject: |
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cellotone wrote:
blotafton wrote: |
Both are beauties! |
_________________ Nikon D600, Fujifilm X-E1, Sony A7R,
Leica R lenses, C/Y Zeiss lenses |
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padam
Joined: 09 Oct 2012 Posts: 175 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 7:49 am Post subject: |
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padam wrote:
A bit hard to tell from the examples at this size, but the older sample seems to be the better copy. |
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Marek
Joined: 13 Apr 2014 Posts: 903 Location: In the heart of Europe
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Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 9:12 am Post subject: |
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Marek wrote:
I don't see important differences in the performance but both are in exceptionally minty and therefore value-raising condition; a fine oldest pre-war Exakta brother might be a fine addition for your B-family in the future, expecially coated piece. _________________ Angry young man !
Flickr | Juzaphoto | Ebay sales
marekfiser [at] gmail [dot] com |
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papasito
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Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 11:30 am Post subject: |
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papasito wrote:
cellotone wrote: |
papasito wrote: |
It seems adecuate to ask
Why the chance of thin to fat versions?
Anybody knows the story? |
I don't know it. May be you can tell us? |
No, I can't.
So I asked |
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16498 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Maybe some better targets would help to bring out differences?
Shiny objects, depth staggered, bokeh generating objects, etc. ??
Here a few shots using my 1951 slim Biotar:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums/72157631791289823 _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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cellotone
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Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2016 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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cellotone wrote:
Thank you to all!
_________________ Nikon D600, Fujifilm X-E1, Sony A7R,
Leica R lenses, C/Y Zeiss lenses |
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