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thebbm
Joined: 11 Dec 2013 Posts: 295 Location: France montpellier
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Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 12:51 am Post subject: (glowy) vivitar 24mm f2 |
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thebbm wrote:
some shoots with this lens on sony nex6.
at f2 the lens is very glowy. f2.4 it become better and at f2.8 far better. i will use it for street or architecture so i will close two or three step the aperture.
In which situation you will use wide open for the glowy ?
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dan_
Joined: 05 Dec 2012 Posts: 1053 Location: Romania
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Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 1:09 am Post subject: |
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dan_ wrote:
It is a very nice glow it has at f/2! I like it a lot.
I'll primarily use it for shots of small streets in old towns kind of photos, for a "nostalgic" view and I'll try it on portraits and still life photos, as well. |
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invisible
Joined: 06 Jun 2013 Posts: 343
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Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 2:09 am Post subject: |
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invisible wrote:
What are the first two digits of the serial number? |
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6008 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 4:14 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
These look very much like the results that I used to get from my Kiron 2/24.
The glowy wide-open look is something that you can use to advantage as Dan says.
I no longer have that lens as it has gone to a different owner, but I enjoyed using it when I had it.
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Excalibur
Joined: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 5019 Location: UK
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Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 8:12 am Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
In which situation you will use wide open for the glowy ?
Well I think e.g. these two shots look nice:-
Vivitar 24mm f2 stopped down to f5.6
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6008 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 8:18 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
As Dan has said:
dan_ wrote: |
It is a very nice glow it has at f/2! I like it a lot.
I'll primarily use it for shots of small streets in old towns kind of photos, for a "nostalgic" view and I'll try it on portraits and still life photos, as well. |
I agree. I can imagine soft lighting and high key effects on feminine and children portraits that show context.
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Pancolart
Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 3693 Location: Slovenia, EU
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Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 8:31 am Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
Some Kiron 2/24mm have deteriorated inner element. It seems like bad glass mixture. Element becomes hazy and
cannot be polished. I assume yours is like that. Optimal performance at F2.0 should be more like yours is at F2.8. _________________ ---------------------------------
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Boris_Akunin
Joined: 22 Aug 2013 Posts: 393 Location: Bremen, Germany
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Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 11:23 am Post subject: |
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Boris_Akunin wrote:
Kiron 24/2 on film (BW400CN):
_________________ Sony: A7 | Samyang FE 35/2.8 | Sony FE 85/1.8
Pentax: K-5 | K28/3.5 | M50/1.7 | DA18-135/3.5-5.6 | F35-70/3.5-4.5
Minolta: X-500 | XD | MD35/2.8 | MC50/1.4 | MD200/4 | MD75-150/4
Canon: nFD24/2.8 | nFD35/2 | nFD50/1.4 | nFD300/5.6 | nFD35-105/3.5
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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7553 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
I like the glow on B&W film. _________________ https://lensfever.com/
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The best lens is the one you have with you. |
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thebbm
Joined: 11 Dec 2013 Posts: 295 Location: France montpellier
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Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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thebbm wrote:
invisible wrote: |
What are the first two digits of the serial number? |
serial number 28 500 296 , vivitar 24mm f2 MC WIDE ANGLE
Pancolart wrote: |
Element becomes hazy and
cannot be polished. I assume yours is like that. Optimal performance at F2.0 should be more like yours is at F2.8. |
my lens is crystal clear. i wish the performance wide open is like at f2.8 but not a much big deal.
thanks every body for the return, i will try to shoot wide open to get special effect |
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invisible
Joined: 06 Jun 2013 Posts: 343
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Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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invisible wrote:
thebbm wrote: |
invisible wrote: |
What are the first two digits of the serial number? |
serial number 28 500 296 , vivitar 24mm f2 MC WIDE ANGLE |
So this is the Komine version of the Vivitar 24/2, not the Kiron.
I'm surprised. I've seen images taken wide open with this version and they were nowhere near this glowy. (And frankly, the ones I've seen taken wide open with the Kiron version weren't this glowy either.) |
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thebbm
Joined: 11 Dec 2013 Posts: 295 Location: France montpellier
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Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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thebbm wrote:
invisible wrote: |
thebbm wrote: |
invisible wrote: |
What are the first two digits of the serial number? |
serial number 28 500 296 , vivitar 24mm f2 MC WIDE ANGLE |
So this is the Komine version of the Vivitar 24/2, not the Kiron.
I'm surprised. I've seen images taken wide open with this version and they were nowhere near this glowy. (And frankly, the ones I've seen taken wide open with the Kiron version weren't this glowy either.) |
to bad for me :<
the lens is very clear inside so maybe an element is missaligned . i will not risk to open |
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Excalibur
Joined: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 5019 Location: UK
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Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
invisible wrote: |
thebbm wrote: |
invisible wrote: |
What are the first two digits of the serial number? |
serial number 28 500 296 , vivitar 24mm f2 MC WIDE ANGLE |
So this is the Komine version of the Vivitar 24/2, not the Kiron.
I'm surprised. I've seen images taken wide open with this version and they were nowhere near this glowy. (And frankly, the ones I've seen taken wide open with the Kiron version weren't this glowy either.) |
Wouldn't the glowy affect been more pronouced in bright sun light? _________________ Canon A1, AV1, T70 & T90, EOS 300 and EOS300v, Chinon CE and CP-7M. Contax 139, Fuji STX-2, Konica Autoreflex TC, FS-1, FT-1, Minolta X-700, X-300, XD-11, SRT101b, Nikon EM, FM, F4, F90X, Olympus OM2, Pentax S3, Spotmatic, Pentax ME super, Praktica TL 5B, & BC1, , Ricoh KR10super, Yashica T5D, Bronica Etrs, Mamiya RB67 pro AND drum roll:- a Sony Nex 3
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anktonio
Joined: 20 Oct 2012 Posts: 219 Location: Spain
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Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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anktonio wrote:
Excalibur wrote: |
Wouldn't the glowy affect been more pronouced in bright sun light? |
I would say yes. Depending on the lighting, glow effect can be almost imperceptible.
Vivitar Komine 24/2 wide open
Closing a step away and there is a significant contrast and sharpness gain.
At f2.8
But with strong lighting, glowy is inevitable with a accused vignetting. (Sorry the photo is overexposed, I needed something more faster than 1/8000).
Wide open
This lens is not recommended to use full aperture (except effects), it provides ease of focus on pentaprism or pentamirror camera and it is logical to close a couple of steps ... as always.
Happy shots! |
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thebbm
Joined: 11 Dec 2013 Posts: 295 Location: France montpellier
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Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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thebbm wrote:
anktonio thanks for the share. your lens seems less glowy than mine. i bought it 3 weeks ago for 130 euros with a zuiko 50mm 1.4. I think it was the zuiko 24mm f2 but get the vivitar instead. Should read more carefully next time ! ( it was not write zuiko 24mm just "24mm" ) |
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