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What's the best ~75-150mm zoom lens?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kiddo wrote:
I'm about to get a 70-150 or 70-210 ,if they are about the same size and quality. The MD 70-150 version I don't see it at all, Canon 70-150 it's about 20 euros , what should I get? Better stick to my 135 and 200 primes? Many times they are limiting taking some shots (I know I can always crop .... but that's not the same)


The Canon FDn is very good, and usually cheap.
It should not disappoint
Tom


PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2019 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok ,thanks I'll give it a try, I really appreciate that it's got the hood in the body and that's a plus. Wonder if it's easy to focus on Sony A7II,wouldn't be to large? Weight isn't it an issue for me


PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2019 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I only use film and my Vivitar 2t 75-150 is very good especially on close ups and my Pentax 75-150 I have no complaints....my thinking is why bother with a shoot out for which is the best zoom for pixel peeping when I happy with the film results.
Maybe the 75-150 range is like say 135mm or 50 mm lenses in that it's easier to pick a crap one than choose a winner.


PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excalibur wrote:
Well I only use film and my Vivitar 2t 75-150 is very good especially on close ups and my Pentax 75-150 I have no complaints....my thinking is why bother with a shoot out for which is the best zoom for pixel peeping when I happy with the film results.
Maybe the 75-150 range is like say 135mm or 50 mm lenses in that it's easier to pick a crap one than choose a winner.


Yes there are many very good ones in this modest range.
I just might mention that even the early Super Komura Uni-Auto Zoom 75-150 mm f/ 4.5 lens is worth a look.
http://forum.mflenses.com/komura-75-150-4-5-uni-auto-zoom-first-komura-zoom-t17176.html
Quite large, but excellent optically with a lovely warm tone
Tom


PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2019 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kiddo wrote:
Ok ,thanks I'll give it a try, I really appreciate that it's got the hood in the body and that's a plus. Wonder if it's easy to focus on Sony A7II,wouldn't be to large? Weight isn't it an issue for me


In the opening post you can see a list of lens size and weight. The Tamron Adaptall-2 70-150mm f/3.5 20A (actually F4) seems to be the shortest one with less than 10cm.


PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2019 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never used the one ring push pull and focus zoom , and I don't plan to be using a tripod ,is it easy to get good focus with such a lens? Or better to get the 2ring one like Olympus or others ?


PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 1:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whether push-pull or 2-ring, I think it's all what you're used to. When I first got interested in "real" photography back in 1982, my first zoom was a push pull. As was my second. My third was a 2-ring, and I recall it took quite a while getting used to having to remember to use the 2 rings, each for what it was intended. For my fourth zoom, I went back to a push-pull and found it more convenient.

Nowadays, so many people are coming from the AF ranks, where almost all zooms are 2-ring, so they're having just the opposite problems I had. These days, I'm pretty much used to both designs and I don't really have a problem with either anymore. So my preference now is toward lens quality more than lens design.


PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for clarifying my doubt. In fact, there are way more push pull zooms to choose from , so right now I've found a Panagor PMC (red letters) Auto Tele zoom 80-200 Macro 4.5 55m filter and s.n.81....(6 numbers in total) Wich it's in pristine shape ,wonder if it's worth the try for the macro option ,or should I stick with the Canon 70-150? A little bit more weight ain't a problem for me, as long as the results of the lens are worth it. Does anyone have experience with this Panagor (probably Polar maker,as by vivitars s.n.)?


PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kiddo wrote:
Thanks for clarifying my doubt. In fact, there are way more push pull zooms to choose from , so right now I've found a Panagor PMC (red letters) Auto Tele zoom 80-200 Macro 4.5 55m filter and s.n.81....(6 numbers in total) Wich it's in pristine shape ,wonder if it's worth the try for the macro option ,or should I stick with the Canon 70-150? A little bit more weight ain't a problem for me, as long as the results of the lens are worth it. Does anyone have experience with this Panagor (probably Polar maker,as by vivitars s.n.)?

Panagor doesn't have the same serial number conventions as Vivitar. So you can't tell the manufacturer from it. Panagor made a lot of zooms. Not al good. If you can identify it by looking at a corresponding vivitar. Either Kino or Komine should be decent to good. 22 or 28 serial.


PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

D1N0 wrote:
kiddo wrote:
Ok ,thanks I'll give it a try, I really appreciate that it's got the hood in the body and that's a plus. Wonder if it's easy to focus on Sony A7II,wouldn't be to large? Weight isn't it an issue for me


In the opening post you can see a list of lens size and weight. The Tamron Adaptall-2 70-150mm f/3.5 20A (actually F4) seems to be the shortest one with less than 10cm.


I just got the Tamron 20a and compared it with the Vivitar. The Vivitar is shorter and doesn't extend when zooming. It weighs 439 grams (Pentax K-mount) The Tamron weighs 504 grams (Nikon F-mount).




PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Canon nFD 70/150.

VERY good lens. At 150 mm is sharp with a lot of details.


PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

papasito wrote:
Canon nFD 70/150.

VERY good lens. At 150 mm is sharp with a lot of details.


Yes, this lens is a gem.
Surprisingly it is still very cheap.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Then again it is quite long and not the brightest option.


PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

D1N0 wrote:
Then again it is quite long and not the brightest option.


I would agree with you if I was shooting film with it.
Most people who adapt this lens will be adding it to a mirrorless camera, and Electronic viewfinders and High ISO make them easy to use and as bright as one would wish.
The original post was from Boris and he had listed a collection of zooms that he was considering.
The one he found the best for personal use was the Minolta MD 75-150/4 - almost the same as the Canon.
It is of course harder to find, and not as cheap.
Tom


PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

D1N0 wrote:
D1N0 wrote:
kiddo wrote:
Ok ,thanks I'll give it a try, I really appreciate that it's got the hood in the body and that's a plus. Wonder if it's easy to focus on Sony A7II,wouldn't be to large? Weight isn't it an issue for me


In the opening post you can see a list of lens size and weight. The Tamron Adaptall-2 70-150mm f/3.5 20A (actually F4) seems to be the shortest one with less than 10cm.


I just got the Tamron 20a and compared it with the Vivitar. The Vivitar is shorter and doesn't extend when zooming. It weighs 439 grams (Pentax K-mount) The Tamron weighs 504 grams (Nikon F-mount).


Who made the Vivitar?


PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can add one more I just pulled the trigger on. Although it is the same focal range it is not really the same category. A compact alternative to 70-200 range zooms. It is really for my Takumar collection.

Super-Takumar Zoom 70-150mm F4.5 - 14 elements - 6 blades - MFD 3.5 meters (1.9 with attachment lens) - L 224m D 74.5mm Weight 1209 grams.


PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

uddhava wrote:


Who made the Vivitar?


Kino precision (AKA Kiron)


PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

D1N0 wrote:
uddhava wrote:


Who made the Vivitar?


Kino precision (AKA Kiron)


Thank you. I forgot to ask, how do they compare?
I have the same Tamron as you by-the-way.
I also have the Canon nFD 4.5 70-150mm.


PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

uddhava wrote:
D1N0 wrote:
uddhava wrote:


Who made the Vivitar?


Kino precision (AKA Kiron)


Thank you. I forgot to ask, how do they compare?
I have the same Tamron as you by-the-way.
I also have the Canon nFD 4.5 70-150mm.


I still have to compare as I am buying too many lenses.... The Tamron is a bit soft wide open at 150mm and closer focussing but I think that goes for the Vivitar as well.


PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Comparison of smallest and largest 70-150mm I know of. Vivitar vs Takumar:
Super-Takumar-Zoom 70-150mm 1:4.5 by The lens profile, on Flickr


PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

^^ Shocked . I wonder how they ended up with it being so big.


PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was their first zoom. Probably aimed at pro's so they didn't want to make many compromises IQ wise (I hope Wink )