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rudolfkremers
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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 7:54 am Post subject: Jupiter 3 conundrum |
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rudolfkremers wrote:
Hello!
So, I accidentally bought a Jupiter 3 lens. Accidentally because stupidly I did not realise it was a rangefinder lens and I don't have a rangefinder camera.
This leaves me with two options:
1: Buy a camera. In which case, what camera should I buy? I am worried that the f1.5 dof will be useless on most rangefinder cameras. Does it have to be a Russian one? Zorki? Fed? Or maybe a Canon 7? I KNOW NOTHING!
2: I try and trade/sell the Jupiter 3. Maybe swap with a Sonnar 1.5? Anybody interested in that?
All advice welcome.
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16541 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 9:12 am Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Consider first about what you might be giving up on: https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums/72157668001696442
(this is my 1957s copy) _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
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https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7553 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 9:36 am Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
There is some difference between the early J-3 and the later copies. I have heard the later ones are sharper at WO but the bokeh is more busy than the early one.
Normally, the lens should works fine on any camera with LTM. However, you may need to adjust the lens or the camera if the rangefinder coupling is off. _________________ https://lensfever.com/
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rudolfkremers
Joined: 10 Jun 2014 Posts: 723 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 9:56 am Post subject: |
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rudolfkremers wrote:
Mine is a 1967 copy.
I am literally a complete newbie wrt 35mm rangefinders. "Adjusting the lens/camera" means very little to me. Is this hard? Is this going to be precise enough for the dof at max aperture?
Which cameras do you recommend?
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kansalliskalaCafe
Joined: 23 Jul 2015 Posts: 602 Location: South Finland, countryside
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 6:50 am Post subject: |
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kansalliskalaCafe wrote:
Fed 2 is really cheap these days, it has a long Contax-type rangefinder and you can get them in brown/red, blue and green also.
Click here to see on Ebay _________________ (my normal account password still on another computer) |
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luisalegria
Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 6627 Location: San Francisco, USA
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
Advice on FED -
Get one with adjusted rangefinder, because its a $$#&# to do it yourself, because that little screw is not likely to be where its should be. I had to dismantle mine to even attempt it.
Maybe a nice Canon P or Canon 7? _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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uddhava
Joined: 22 Aug 2012 Posts: 3071 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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uddhava wrote:
I like my Zorki 6. It has a diopter adjustment, a hinged door for loading film and at least for myself I found the rangefinder very easy to adjust. |
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rudolfkremers
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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rudolfkremers wrote:
Thanks guys. So how usable are fast lenses on rangefinders? _________________ https://www.rudolfkremers.com
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scsambrook
Joined: 29 Mar 2009 Posts: 2167 Location: Glasgow Scotland
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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scsambrook wrote:
Fast lenses on rangefinder cameras are fine IF the coupling is properly adjusted. The Russian rangefinder lenses were meant to be compatible with Fed and Zorki bodies which - seemingly - have a lens/film register distance which is slightly different to the Leica and all other types which are built to similar standards. My own experience suggests this indeed is so - none of my Russian lenses (35/2.8, 50/2, 85/2 and 135/4) coupled correctly with either my film M2 or digital M8, even when used with Leitz screw bayonet adapters.
The 50/1.5 will almost certainly need to be adjusted for proper functioning on Leica or Canon (and Voigtlander Bessa) bodies. Adjusting their rangefinders to suit the lens will then make non-Russian lenses fail to couple correctly. A good condition Zorki of Fed will indeed be the most cost-effective solution. _________________ Stephen
Equipment: Pentax DSLR for casual shooting, Lumix G1 and Fuji XE-1 for playing with old lenses, and Leica M8 because I still like the optical rangefinder system. |
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rudolfkremers
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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rudolfkremers wrote:
It seems the cheapest and least hassle way to use this lens.
I quite like the idea of having a camera dedicated to a very specific classic look without distracting lens choices.
Is there a trick to figure out if a rangefinder camera and lens combo is properly adjusted, or should I just buy a nice Russian camera and give it a go? _________________ https://www.rudolfkremers.com
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16541 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2016 9:01 am Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
ALLIPO wrote: |
I'm interested in your Jupiter 3 , I would like to buy |
There are plenty of those available in Russia! _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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