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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2018 4:50 pm    Post subject: nikon slr choice Reply with quote

I'm looking for some cheap nikon slr to use with my AI lens. so I'll need aperture priority mode

Some candidates around $30-40

EM - Apparently not quite reliable ?
F810 - heavy, but large viewfinder
F501 - smaller viewfinder, lighter than F801
F301 - basically F501 without AF ?

My heart is telling me to get F301, cheapest, pretty light & small. But I worry about the viewfinder size. Should I ?

Any other models I'm missing?


PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2018 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure how the US names match the EU names but I like the FM2n. It is aperture priority and only needs the battery for the meter. The mechanical shutter will work perfectly without the battery. It works great with AI / AIs lenses and is the one film camera I kept when I went digital. I also had an 8008s and F100. The F100 was the ultimate AF film camera but the FM2n is a really nice walk around body.
Pete


PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2018 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would invest some more money and go for an F3.
Money well spent, will last forever.


PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2018 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LucisPictor wrote:
I would invest some more money and go for an F3.
Money well spent, will last forever.


Like 1

Good advice. If unafraid of fully mechanical cameras then Nikon F2AS.


PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2018 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The FM2n does not have an aperture priority mode. It is manual exposure only.

For $30-40 you're not gonna find much -- eBay prices, anyway.

I don't care for Aperture Priority only cameras. I prefer those that have a manual mode also. Given that, and given your price restrictions and my own preferences, I think the closest you're gonna come is the Nikon FG. It's battery dependent, but the batteries last just about forever and they can be found most anywhere. Anyway, the FG is a very capable camera and is often overlooked because it's perceived as being too "amateurish". That's a mistake. The FG has a super accurate shutter, a decent meter, and actually a nice manual mode.

If you can manage to free up a few additional bucks, I'd go for the FE rather than the F3. The FE has a better meter readout than the F3. Like the FG, it's battery dependent, takes the same batteries. All of these cameras accept motor drives also, the MD4 for the F3, the MD12 for the FE and the somewhat uncommon MD14 for the FG. I think I read somewhere that the FG can use the MD12, but I can't vouch for that.


PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2018 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well if it's any help and for ideas...... for me I chose the Nikon FM mechanical camera only because it can take pre AI lenses and the F90x handy for AF also MF lenses (not pre AI lenses), but would like the F100 or F4 (also takes pre AI lenses) but are too expensive now.
With the FM it does annoy at times when shooting in the vertical position as the wind on lever has to be slightly open and sometimes ends up my nose Sad and no I don't have a big nose Smile


PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2018 7:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nikon FA has Aperture priority, besides M, P, S modes and also have matrix metering. It is quite reliable, light and great machine to own. Although is not so cheap I can recommend this SLR.


PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2018 6:36 am    Post subject: Re: nikon slr choice Reply with quote

zzzxtreme wrote:

F301 - basically F501 without AF ?

My heart is telling me to get F301, cheapest, pretty light & small. But I worry about the viewfinder size. Should I ?



I had it for some time didn't find the viewfider problem.

But it is still big, heavy and noisy Smile

(ok, I've been using OM and Konica bodies lately so the size factor is relative)


PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

chhayanat wrote:
LucisPictor wrote:
I would invest some more money and go for an F3.
Money well spent, will last forever.


Like 1

Good advice. If unafraid of fully mechanical cameras then Nikon F2AS.


What is there to fear?

I have 2 F2A's, one is 1976 vintage and the other 1979 vintage and I bet have put a half mile of film through both and they still work flawlessly, including the meters. The F2 is the greatest 35mm film camera ever made in my opinion.


PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The f501, f801 and f301 are prone to an intermittent shutter problem, mirror goes up and down, nice click, but the shutter doesnt open. My f301 in the late 90s did it, my current f501 does it and my friends f801 does it.


PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

philslizzy wrote:
The f501, f801 and f301 are prone to an intermittent shutter problem, mirror goes up and down, nice click, but the shutter doesnt open. My f301 in the late 90s did it, my current f501 does it and my friends f801 does it.


Does this error just happen once in a while (i. e. several "good" shoots and then one with shutter not opening), or is the error ongoing (mirror flaps, but shutter remains closed all the time)?

S


PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last couple of films it was okay for about six shots, then nothing, nothing, nothing, shot, nothing , nothing, shot, shot, nothing, shot, nothing, nothing , nothing, shot, shot, nothing, shot etc... totally unreliable


PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

philslizzy wrote:
Last couple of films it was okay for about six shots, then nothing, nothing, nothing, shot, nothing , nothing, shot, shot, nothing, shot, nothing, nothing , nothing, shot, shot, nothing, shot etc... totally unreliable


Sounds quite annoying!

I just checked my F501, and sure it has the same problem. First twenty or so exposures were OK (shutter die open), then it starts to get wacky ... and after maybe 50 exposures the shutter opens only rarely. Long exposures (> 1/8s) were OK though.

Couldn't test my F301 (no batteries here) and my F801 (electronics are not so easy to fool ... it really wants a real film to start working ... and a closed back as well).

S


PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just a guess here, but I'm assuming those Nikons have vertically traveling shutters? A common problem with Canon EOS cameras as they get older is a rubber sort of seal around the shutter that begins to break down and turns to goo. When this happens, capping results as well as a sticky shutter. It settles down into a bottom channel that runs the length of the frame opening. A proper cure of this problem is to de-goo the shutter with a workable solvent -- I use denatured alcohol -- along with scooping the goo out of that bottom track. One camera tech I know uses a regular old business card. He sticks a corner in the slot and then pushes the goo out. This is a necessary part of the process. Before learning about this step, I would clean the EOS shutters only, which did a good job. But if the camera were ever stored for a long period where the goo could flow up onto the shutter again, the problem could rea-appear.