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jamaeolus
Joined: 19 Mar 2014 Posts: 2934 Location: Eugene
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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 12:03 am Post subject: New optical materials. |
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jamaeolus wrote:
Not low dispersion glass not even glass at all, but metamaterials. Lenses engineered at the nano scale to take advantage of the characteristics of light at various wavelenghts.
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/163169/20160606/what-are-the-advantages-of-planar-metalens-over-convectional-lens.htm _________________ photos are moments frozen in time |
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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7553 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 3:18 am Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
Negative-index metamaterial has been invented and studied for more than ten years. _________________ https://lensfever.com/
https://www.instagram.com/_lens_fever/
The best lens is the one you have with you. |
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Teemō
Joined: 07 Apr 2016 Posts: 586 Location: Australia
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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 6:42 am Post subject: |
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Teemō wrote:
Looks like it works on diffraction principles. |
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visualopsins
Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 10569 Location: California
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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
I've also noticed this story resurfaces every few years...
So far the scale is limited to microscopic lenses, such as those used in laser fiber optics communications, to squeeze in more bandwidth. _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
Cameras: Sony ILCE-7RM2, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
Lenses:
M42 Asahi Optical Co., Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200, Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300, Macro-Takumar 1:4/50, Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm, Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element), Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17, Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100, Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100, SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
M42 Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
Contax Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm F3.5-4.5
Pentax K-mount SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (151B), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto (Kiron)
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Mike Deep
Joined: 25 Oct 2008 Posts: 316 Location: Upstate New York
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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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Mike Deep wrote:
I'm sick of hearing about metamaterials and nanotech. Let me know when some of it escapes the lab. _________________ Rocket Launch Photography
Olympus: 24/2.8 MC, 28/3.5, 28/2.8 MC, 35/2.8, 50/3.5, 50/1.8, 50/1.4 MC, 35-70/3.6, 75-150/4
Nikon: C 24/2.8, AI-S 28/2.8, K 35/2.8, F 55/3.5, F 105/2.5, F 135/2.8, F 200/4, No. 5T
Pentax: 28/3.5, 35/3.5, 50/1.4 (v1), 50/1.4 (v2), M 50/1.4, SMC 55/1.8, 105/2.8, SMC 135/3.5, 150/4
Tamron: SP 17/3.5 151B, 135/2.8 T-135, SP 300/2.8 60B, SP 35-80/2.8-3.8 01A, 80-210/3.8-4 103A, SP 1.4x TC 140F, SP 2x TC 01F
Vivitar: 24/2 (Kino), 28/2 (Kino), 50/1.4 (Cosina), S1 90/2.5 (Tokina), S1 28-80/2.8-3.5 (Kino), 70-150/3.8 (Kino), S1 70-210/3.5 (Kino), 2x Macro TC
Etc: Yashica 3.5cm/2.8, Fujinon 50/1.4, Yashica ML 50/1.4, Tomioka Yashinon 55/1.2, Mamiya/Sekor 55/1.7, Sigma 90/2.8
That's a lot of 50s. |
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Teemō
Joined: 07 Apr 2016 Posts: 586 Location: Australia
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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 8:09 am Post subject: |
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Teemō wrote:
visualopsins wrote: |
So far the scale is limited to microscopic lenses, such as those used in laser fiber optics communications, to squeeze in more bandwidth. |
Is that because it's fragile? |
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visualopsins
Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 10569 Location: California
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Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
Teemō wrote: |
visualopsins wrote: |
So far the scale is limited to microscopic lenses, such as those used in laser fiber optics communications, to squeeze in more bandwidth. |
Is that because it's fragile? |
Scaling beyond microscopic lens size, yes, fragile describes the current limitation. Easy to imagine a slight breeze completely destroying a large lens! They will probably hang it on some sort of scaffold for larger lenses, with some degrade from a perfect optic. _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
Cameras: Sony ILCE-7RM2, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
Lenses:
M42 Asahi Optical Co., Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200, Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300, Macro-Takumar 1:4/50, Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm, Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element), Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17, Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100, Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100, SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
M42 Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
Contax Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm F3.5-4.5
Pentax K-mount SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (151B), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto (Kiron)
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Teemō
Joined: 07 Apr 2016 Posts: 586 Location: Australia
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Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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Teemō wrote:
visualopsins wrote: |
Teemō wrote: |
visualopsins wrote: |
So far the scale is limited to microscopic lenses, such as those used in laser fiber optics communications, to squeeze in more bandwidth. |
Is that because it's fragile? |
Scaling beyond microscopic lens size, yes, fragile describes the current limitation. Easy to imagine a slight breeze completely destroying a large lens! They will probably hang it on some sort of scaffold for larger lenses, with some degrade from a perfect optic. |
Perhaps it is also possible to use an array of multiple lenses and sensors and post-processing to increase the aperture. The optics have all the resolution wide open anyway. |
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