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Another step toward Konica F collection!
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2023 12:42 am    Post subject: Another step toward Konica F collection! Reply with quote

I had already the FS and FP cameras, lucked into an FM body with a Konishiroku 52mm 1.4 misidentified as a Hanimex lens in the listing. So I now have all three of the F* bodies. I am also in possession of the 35mm 2.8, 100mm 2.8, 135mm 2.8 and the 135mm 3.5. I took the 52mm out today and if time permits will show some shots taken with it. Not a lot of images on the net from that one. My luck with the homemade adapter was not as good as with the 100. I had to keep the auto aperture lever in place with a small piece of blue tak. Worked like a charm.


PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2023 6:52 am    Post subject: Re: Another step toward Konica F collection! Reply with quote

jamaeolus wrote:
I had already the FS and FP cameras, lucked into an FM body with a Konishiroku 52mm 1.4 misidentified as a Hanimex lens in the listing. . .


The thrill of the hunt! Congrats.

If it's convenient for you, I'd enjoy seeing a group photo of your Konica F collection.


PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2023 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also have the same cameras and lenses (except the 135 2.Cool, plus a 200 3.5. I have also thought of taking a picture of all of them together, they are beautiful pieces of machinery, but I never find the time... the bad part of having your life divided between several cities. But I promise I will try next time and post it here.


PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2023 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, sorry, that's a typo. Should say 35mm 2.8. I don't think their is a konishiroku F 135mm 2.8.


PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2023 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well maybe fate will smile on me and a actual F model body for low money will show up in a second hand store I cruise. (HAH!)


PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2023 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only one of my bodies is functional. Both the others have the same fault. The shutter does not lock open we cranking the film advance lever. It's as if the shutter button is being held down when you do it. Otherwise they seem fine.


PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2023 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jamaeolus wrote:
Yeah, sorry, that's a typo. Should say 35mm 2.8. I don't think their is a konishiroku F 135mm 2.8.


Actually, there is one. It is one of the 4 propietary lenses (sporting an incorporated arm that couples the lens' aperture mechanism to the camera's light meter) introduced with the Konica F, the first SLR of the F-mount series. It's rare as hen's teeth and was only offered in 1960. From 1961 on, the 135/3.5, in preset and auto versions, took over. Here is a photo of ysyyu's Konishiroku 135/2.8 on the Hexanon.net site:
https://www.hexanon.net/konica_lens_detail/135f2-8/


PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2023 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting! I was unaware. Another thing to look for in second hand stores...


PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2023 8:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Another step toward Konica F collection! Reply with quote

jamaeolus wrote:
I had already the FS and FP cameras, lucked into an FM body with a Konishiroku 52mm 1.4 misidentified as a Hanimex lens in the listing. So I now have all three of the F* bodies.

Cngatulations! I was lucky to get them all a a few years ago, without actually searching for them: They just popped up in local stores and auctions.
jamaeolus wrote:
I am also in possession of the 35mm 2.8, 100mm 2.8, 135mm 2.8 and the 135mm 3.5. I took the 52mm out today and if time permits will show some shots taken with it. Not a lot of images on the net from that one. My luck with the homemade adapter was not as good as with the 100. I had to keep the auto aperture lever in place with a small piece of blue tak. Worked like a charm.

That's a nice set of Konica F lenses! My own little collection is limited to the F lenses 2.8/35, 1.8/52, 1.4/52 and 1.8/85mm. Sadly I don't have an adapter, and so the lenses remain un-tested for time being. Three of those lenses are shown here:

http://www.artaphot.ch/konica-ar/f-lenses

S


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2023 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ironically I do not have the kit lens 52mm 1.8!


PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2023 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doing some shopping for the 85mm I learned they also made 35mm f2! What other gems are out there in this mount?


PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2023 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jamaeolus wrote:
Doing some shopping for the 85mm I learned they also made 35mm f2! What other gems are out there in this mount?


A very well made large 3.5/200mm lens for instance: Some years ago there was a copy for sale for quite some time, locally, but back then I wasn't interested in starting collecting yet another mount! Last year I got the corresponding early AR mount version of the same lens which seems to be identical to the F mount version (bar the bayonet mount, of course). Very nicely machined indeed!

S


PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2023 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are really no vendors locally with antique camera gear, even Portland, which is a 2 hr drive only boasts one such, the delightful Blue Moon camera and Machine. So I am searching e bay an etsy along with every aficianado on the planet. So it's unlikely I will find these. I would never pay 4000 $US for a Konica F 85mm 1.8 and a 35mm F2!


PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2023 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jamaeolus wrote:
I would never pay 4000 $US for a Konica F 85mm 1.8 and a 35mm F2!


Me neither Wink

S


PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2023 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jamaeolus wrote:



Nice looking collection! Thank you.


PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2023 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

According to camarepedia, apparently there were also 52mm f2, 400mm f4.5, and even an 800mm F8.
So:
35mm f2.8, 35mm f2
52mm f2, 52mm 1.8 and 52 f1.4,
85mm f1.8
100mm f2.8
135mm f3.5, 135mm f2.8,
400mm f4.5
800mm f8
Am missing some?


PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2023 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jamaeolus wrote:
According to camarepedia, apparently there were also 52mm f2, 400mm f4.5, and even an 800mm F8.
So:
35mm f2.8, 35mm f2
52mm f2, 52mm 1.8 and 52 f1.4,
85mm f1.8
100mm f2.8
135mm f3.5, 135mm f2.8,
400mm f4.5
800mm f8
Am missing some?


Yes - the said 3.5/200 Wink


PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2023 1:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jamaeolus wrote:
According to camarepedia, apparently there were also 52mm f2, 400mm f4.5, and even an 800mm F8.
So:
35mm f2.8, 35mm f2
52mm f2, 52mm 1.8 and 52 f1.4,
85mm f1.8
100mm f2.8
135mm f3.5, 135mm f2.8,
400mm f4.5
800mm f8
Am missing some?


The F2 normal lens was 50mm, it was the standard lens for the FS camera (https://lens-db.com/konishiroku-hexanon-50mm-f2-1960/). As posted elsewhere, this (IMO) was the probable first camera to use the Copal Square shutter, not the Nikkorex F as listed elsewhere on the web. The original 'F' camera had a metal shutter, but was an earlier version, not formally named as a Copal Square type at that point.


PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2023 2:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay then:

According to camarepedia, apparently there were also 52mm f2, 400mm f4.5, and even an 800mm F8.
So:
35mm f2.8, 35mm f2
50mm f2,
52mm 1.8 and 52 f1.4,
85mm f1.8
100mm f2.8
135mm f3.5, 135mm f2.8,
400mm f4.5
800mm f8
Am missing some?


PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2023 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jamaeolus wrote:
Okay then:

According to camarepedia, apparently there were also 52mm f2, 400mm f4.5, and even an 800mm F8.
So:
35mm f2.8, 35mm f2
50mm f2,
52mm 1.8 and 52 f1.4,
85mm f1.8
100mm f2.8
135mm f3.5, 135mm f2.8,
400mm f4.5
800mm f8
Am missing some?


The 200/3.5 is missing. Smile

The 35/2.8, 100/2.8, 135/3.5 came in auto-aperture and preset versions.
There were three versions of the 200 and two versions of the 400 and 800.


PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2023 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK some shots. This series with the 52mm 1.4. I found it surprisingly good or a fast normal from the early 60's. I imagine only single coating. Despite that it has preys goof contrast and good color rendering IMHO.

Bokeh and wide open close focus an red rendition:







Landscape on a foggy overcast day. The contrast is actually better than it appears due to the fog in the air.


Landscapes (overcast).




Arbosculpture








Macro (m42 extension tubes)