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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 10:13 am    Post subject: Welcome to the world of Jupiter 11 Reply with quote

Got this old Jupe 11 M39 that was to be honest, butchered, and have fixed the mount for M42, and have to say,
This old busted lady has some glass for photography!
Just started using and i LOVE it!!

Little water dragon i encountered on a walk at the beach this arve.
Wide open Yeah!!


100% crop! Love this lens!!


PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aah, the good old J11... I have half a dozen copies from 1950s to 1980s vintages in M42, M39 and Kiev/Contax mounts. I also have a Contax Sonnar 4/135 that the J11 is copied from and half a dozen other CZJ Sonnar 135s.

As you might be able to tell, I really love the Sonnar 135! lol

Your lovely lizard portrait shows why - sharpness with great colours and contrast and a very smooth rendering.


PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have one other J11 (Kiev mount) which is something to behold!
Adapter came for her today!
Focus is super stiff but, stay tuned!
I have the technology and the patience to bring her full, wonderous, workings to fruition!


PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a 1957 Kiev J11. Despite having a near identical Zeiss Opton Sonnar 4/135 for Contax, I kept the Russian copy because it's too good to part with. Yes, the Sonnar is a tiny wee bit better, but the J11 is still one of my very best 135s and I have over 20.


PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
I have a 1957 Kiev J11. Despite having a near identical Zeiss Opton Sonnar 4/135 for Contax, I kept the Russian copy because it's too good to part with. Yes, the Sonnar is a tiny wee bit better, but the J11 is still one of my very best 135s and I have over 20.

Which me brings to this: may you consider short review, description and purposes to buy/use for all your 135s? Could be a worthy read, that's damn sure Cool

So far I have Votar and Primotar of this length, also Tair 133, and sold Triotar and Sonnar (all silvers, M42 or EXA). Never had a really favourite 135mm yet, but I barely used Mr. Monet (Primotar).


PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That really is very good.
Well done BAB
OH


PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have too many 135mms to test and they don't all fit any one of my cameras.

The best I have:

Konica Hexanon 3.2/135
Topcon RE Auto Topcor 3.5/135
Zeiss Opton Contax Sonnar 4/135
Carl Zeiss Jena Prakticar (Sonnar) 3.5/135
Schneider Tele-Xenar 4/135

I still have a few 135s to try:

X-Fujinar 2.8/135
Komura 3.5/135 M39
Canon 3.5/135 M39
Mamiya SX 2.8/135

There's a load more that I have used and don't use but don't really want to part with, I've sold off all the ones I didn't care for.


PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is truly impressive. I have recently gone on an LTM binge for my A7. Sold a number of lenses that I haven't been using and re-invested some of the sales into ordering some LTM lenses, including a Jupiter 11.

It hasn't been delivered yet but after seeing this at least I have an idea of what it should be capable of. Thank you.


PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My favourite 135 is a Topcor R 135/3.5, I have a non EBC Fujinon 135/2.8 that seems to be good, but haven't really used it all that much, Canon made some nice 135's
I'm also looking at getting a Konica 135/3.2


PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did a rough and ready comparison of a bunch of 135s a while back ( I have just counted 17 135s but I dont think I used them all ) and the Jupiter 11 proved to be one of the best, if not the best.
I shall have a look for the old thread, but I think the pictures might have gone from it.


PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 1:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Random shots from my many Jupiter 11...... none of which i own anymore....
Only 'cause most times i'd be reaching out for faster lenses...

But it is a very lovely lens. Small and a joy to use...

M39 KOMZ Jupiter 11 1962 12 blades MFD 140cm






On tubes



M39 Zebra KOMZ Jupiter 11 1969 12 blades MFD 140cm


On tubes





M42 KOMZ Jupiter 11 1969 12 blades MFD 140cm








PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The LTM version is cute . Does it have a longer MFD ?


PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:58 am    Post subject: Jupiter 11 MFD Reply with quote

My reference states the MFD for the LTM version is 2.5 meters.


PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My '53 copy shows 2.5m.


PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My 58, which is the one that got the lizard shows 2.5 but the kiev 53 shows 1.5

Haven't used the kiev yet as focus is very stiff, soon to be remedied.
might give it a wirl tomorrow.

A pic of it as it is pleasing on the eye Smile



PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awesome shots Mir!
Love it!


PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So simple and beautiful lens. I think there is a zebra version of the "fat boy" too Wink


PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2015 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
So simple and beautiful lens. I think there is a zebra version of the "fat boy" too Wink


There are several version of fat Jupiter-11. I'll soon received an early KMZ Jupiter-11, which looks like a little Tair-11 (will need to clean on the body)

Another version, visible on zenitcamera, exist, with marks on the mount like on the usual fat.


PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a copy M39 mount. It is very prone to flare, probably is not multicoated, I must be very careful with the light for this reason. Everything else is very good.





Happy shots!


PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just came across these pictures that I took a while back with a black fat boy Jupiter 11, both taken wide open.



.

It's a great lens


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2015 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are J11s dated by the first two digits on the serial no? Mine's KOMZ, silver, 7 digit s/n, starting N70 not N70. 1970?

Cheers, Cool


PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2015 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah bud.
first two from my understanding.


PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2015 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lloydy!
that leaf!
Love this lens!!
In fact!
Lets up the stakes a bit!
Everyone!
Attach your J11 and bring its talents Here!!


PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not my Jupiter 11 but that of my son.
I borrowed it for a play and here are some images - apologies for my standard subject matter ATM.
Cheers
OH







PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seeing as there appears to be multiple versions of this lens, which one (if any) stands out as the best?
I understand that this could be down to personal preference, that's fine, but if I'm going to buy one I'd like the one which most people favour.

Would a Jupiter 11 best my Zeiss 135/3.5 Sonnar? I'm only talking about IQ, I know the Sonnar mechanics are iffy Wink