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siudym
Joined: 27 Jun 2015 Posts: 73 Location: Poland
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2016 9:56 am Post subject: Industar 61L/3 vs volna-9 - macro comparison |
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siudym wrote:
camera apsc fuji s3 pro:
volna f2.8
industar f2.8
volna f4
industar f4
volna f5.6
industar f5.6
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kryss
Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Posts: 2169 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2016 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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kryss wrote:
Considering price comparison and results I prefer the Industar. Some shots with mine all WO.
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Snodge
Joined: 01 Jan 2015 Posts: 163 Location: Bristol, UK
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2016 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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Snodge wrote:
I had a difficult choice when I was looking to get one or the other, and eventually went with the Industar. It's a lovely lens, and sharp too... _________________ Hugh
Camera bodies: Fujifilm X-E3 (digital), Praktika Super TL1000 (35mm film), Kershaw 450 (medium format 6x6 folder)
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kryss
Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Posts: 2169 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2016 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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kryss wrote:
I agree Hugh,I hadn't used mine for years as I have quite a selection of macro lenses and decided to take it for a ride and was pleasantly surprised. _________________ Do not trust Atoms....they make up everything. |
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Nordentro
Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 4710 Location: Lillehammer, Norway
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2016 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
The Volna has better bokeh and drawing
I prefer the Volna over the Industar _________________ Lars | Lens collection | Manuellfokus.no |
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Snodge
Joined: 01 Jan 2015 Posts: 163 Location: Bristol, UK
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2016 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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Snodge wrote:
Bokeh is fine on the Industar - the below was a bit of a rush job, hence the wrong aperture for the image, but wide open it's nice and sharp...
_________________ Hugh
Camera bodies: Fujifilm X-E3 (digital), Praktika Super TL1000 (35mm film), Kershaw 450 (medium format 6x6 folder)
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kryss
Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Posts: 2169 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2016 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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kryss wrote:
Smooth Hugh. _________________ Do not trust Atoms....they make up everything. |
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Nordentro
Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 4710 Location: Lillehammer, Norway
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2016 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
Bokeh depends of the scene and the optical formula. The Industar is a simple Tessar 4/4 while the Volna has a more sophisticated 6/5 scheme f/2.8 standard lenses are typically based on 3 (triplets) or 4 (tessars) elements. That is enough for good correction in focal plane, but OOF area isn't that nice. The Volna is also much better corrected for CA and has a better MFD.
It is more to lenses than just being sharp! _________________ Lars | Lens collection | Manuellfokus.no |
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vlousada
Joined: 11 Dec 2010 Posts: 345 Location: Portugal
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2016 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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vlousada wrote:
Nordentro wrote: |
The Volna is also much better corrected for CA and has a better MFD.
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Neverless, both are great lenses for the money. _________________ Regards,
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16497 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2016 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Nordentro wrote: |
Bokeh depends of the scene and the optical formula. The Industar is a simple Tessar 4/4 while the Volna has a more sophisticated 6/5 scheme f/2.8 standard lenses are typically based on 3 (triplets) or 4 (tessars) elements. That is enough for good correction in focal plane, but OOF area isn't that nice. The Volna is also much better corrected for CA and has a better MFD.
It is more to lenses than just being sharp! |
What Lars said! _________________ Klaus - Admin
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Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
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NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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kryss
Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Posts: 2169 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2016 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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kryss wrote:
Bokeh is good enough for me..
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siudym
Joined: 27 Jun 2015 Posts: 73 Location: Poland
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Posted: Mon May 09, 2016 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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siudym wrote:
volna-9 + eos 300D, @F5.6
#1
#2
#3
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BurstMox
Joined: 04 Dec 2011 Posts: 1998 Location: France
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Posted: Mon May 09, 2016 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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BurstMox wrote:
Nice shot Siudym
About the choice I-61 vs Volna-9, I choose none of them.
The I-61 is good, but there are a lot of other soviet 50mm that I like better.
Volna is certainly better for macro (begining with its better MFD), but I never really found it interesting too use. _________________ Pierre
sovietlenses.fr
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rjm007
Joined: 01 Nov 2015 Posts: 5
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Posted: Tue May 10, 2016 2:38 am Post subject: |
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rjm007 wrote:
The Volna works quite well as nifty fifty too when called upon to do so.
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D1N0
Joined: 07 Aug 2012 Posts: 2483
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Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 10:28 am Post subject: |
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D1N0 wrote:
I don't have the industar but this is the Volna
matching Bokeh by The lens profile, on Flickr
Don't forget about the star bokeh
starlet by The lens profile, on Flickr
As you can see bokeh isn't very pretty stopped down, but hey there are stars! _________________ pentaxian |
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Dejan
Joined: 05 Jan 2021 Posts: 138 Location: Belgrade, Serbia
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Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 11:21 am Post subject: |
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Dejan wrote:
The aperture shape is problematic for me. For those who want stars that's not the case obviously, but macro lenses will often be used stopped down at least a bit. I wish they had a different version with more aperture blades and round bokeh, like Russians often did (Tair 135mm, Jupiter tele lenses, Helios with 13 blades...). Very nice lens otherwise, Industar is not that bad either (more primitive formulae doesn't mean lesser rendering, that's a matter of taste for me). |
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mr_tibbs2004
Joined: 23 Jul 2021 Posts: 136 Location: United States
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Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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mr_tibbs2004 wrote:
I was just researching the Volna 9 last week. I really want interested in a MF macro lens, but I really like the star bokeh! That plus it's a pretty sharp 50mm that can be used for portrait sold me. I'm now on the hunt for a good copy! |
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Nordentro
Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 4710 Location: Lillehammer, Norway
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Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2021 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
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I'm now on the hunt for a good copy! |
I have one for sale... _________________ Lars | Lens collection | Manuellfokus.no |
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lumens pixel
Joined: 27 Feb 2019 Posts: 821
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Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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lumens pixel wrote:
Both lenses seem interesting to me. But you need 100% crops to decide on sharpness. _________________ Lumens Pixel
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Minolta SR mount: 16 2,8; Sigma SuperWide 24 2,8; 28 2,5; 28 2,8; 28 3,5; 35 2,8; 45 2,0; 50 1,4; 50 1,7; 50 2,0; 58 1,4; 85 2,0; 100 2,5; 100 4 Macro; 135 3,5; 135 2,8; 200 4; RF 250 5,6; 24-35 3,5; 35-70 3,5; 75-150 4; 70-210 4
Canon FD mount: Tokina RMC 17 3,5; 28 2,8; 35 2,8; 50 1,8; 50 3,5 Macro; 55 1,2; 135 3,5; 135 2,5; 200 4,0; 300 5,6; 28-55 3,5 4,5; Tokina SZ-X SD 270; 70-150 4,5; 70-210 f4; 80-200 4L; Tokina SZ-X 845
Tamron Adaptall: 28-80 3,5-4,2 (27A); 70-210 3,8-4 (46A); 60-300 (23A); 90 2,5 (52B); 35-135 3,5-4,5 (40A)
Tamron SP: 20-40 2,7-3,5 (266D) |
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BurstMox
Joined: 04 Dec 2011 Posts: 1998 Location: France
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Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 10:10 am Post subject: |
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BurstMox wrote:
mr_tibbs2004 wrote: |
I was just researching the Volna 9 last week. I really want interested in a MF macro lens, but I really like the star bokeh! That plus it's a pretty sharp 50mm that can be used for portrait sold me. I'm now on the hunt for a good copy! |
They both have ninja star bokeh. But be carefull, early models of Industar-61 (until 1971) don't have this prononced ninja star shaped diaph opening. _________________ Pierre
sovietlenses.fr
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Manichaean
Joined: 03 Oct 2013 Posts: 68
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 11:33 am Post subject: |
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Manichaean wrote:
I have both lenses (actually two of Volna-9) and I like Volna-9 much more than the Industar. While the Industar is not bad as a macro lens and I often use it to take photos of my lenses, the Volna is much better as all-round lens. I like its bokeh wide open
P1080513 by Manichaean1234, on Flickr
P1080508 by Manichaean1234, on Flickr
P1080505 by Manichaean1234, on Flickr
Industar gives more "technical" picure IMO. |
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