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bisbee233
Joined: 12 Aug 2010 Posts: 13 Location: USA
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Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2016 7:09 pm Post subject: Early Pre War f1.3 Cine Lenses |
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bisbee233 wrote:
I know of 4 pre war 1" f1.3 Cine lenses:
Schneider Xenon 25mm f1.3 Early brass and chrome
Dallmeyer 1" f1.3 circa 1920s
LAACK Cine Polyxentar 1" f1.3
Cooke Kinic 1" f1.3 and Super speed panchro..I dont own a copy of either of theses lenses but I have seen them.
...are there others?
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screwunscrew
Joined: 20 Nov 2011 Posts: 59 Location: Äsch, Switzerland
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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screwunscrew wrote:
These are extraordinary items.
F/1.4 was rather fast until up into the 1980s, the only technical progress was coating.
Kinoptik still makes six-element double-Gauss systems not wider open than f/1.4, so
f/1.3 is really remarkable. It took the industry about 40 years to remedy the aberrations
at f/1.3 to f/1.1 with Cooke, Zeiss, and Kern apochromatic lenses but those are very
expensive. I am right now giving a Switar 50mm f/1.4 an overhaul, also a 1-2-2-1 system,
and it is my understanding that it doesn’t afford better pictures than what you can expect
from your f/1.3 lenses. |
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16541 Location: Weinheim, Germany
Expire: 2021-03-09
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
To be German blunt, I'm rather quite restrictive on sharing my know how
with someone who seemingly not contributes here, but rather rakes in
valuable information to enhance his ebay selling results... _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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screwunscrew
Joined: 20 Nov 2011 Posts: 59 Location: Äsch, Switzerland
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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screwunscrew wrote:
I don’t think the information given by me will help any eBay seller enhance profits since it still takes a little more to fully appreciate a c-mount lens’ qualities. What on earth would make a micro 4/3rd camera user understand anything of pre-war lenses for 16-mm film? Prices are totally irrational these days, I mean $1,500 for an Yvar 150 mm is nothing but a rip-off. That’s a triplet. Three single lenses in an aluminum tube! |
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16541 Location: Weinheim, Germany
Expire: 2021-03-09
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
screwunscrew wrote: |
I don’t think the information given by me will help any eBay seller enhance profits since it still takes a little more to fully appreciate a c-mount lens’ qualities. What on earth would make a micro 4/3rd camera user understand anything of pre-war lenses for 16-mm film? Prices are totally irrational these days, I mean $1,500 for an Yvar 150 mm is nothing but a rip-off. That’s a triplet. Three single lenses in an aluminum tube! |
I wasn't adressing you.... _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7553 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2016 4:31 am Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
No idea. However, there is no practical difference between a F1.3 and F1.4 lens. _________________ https://lensfever.com/
https://www.instagram.com/_lens_fever/
The best lens is the one you have with you. |
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Gamera
Joined: 16 Feb 2014 Posts: 86 Location: Scandinavia
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Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2016 6:54 am Post subject: |
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Gamera wrote:
No one should expect pristine and sharp pictures with the smallest f-numbers. These 'fast' lenses are made as a trade-off between available light, fixed shutter speeds of the cine cameras and slow film emulsions of the time. An individual frame shot wide open with these lenses may not look good and sharp in sub-gauge film, but a projected picture with moving subjects is good enough. |
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bisbee233
Joined: 12 Aug 2010 Posts: 13 Location: USA
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Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2016 3:08 am Post subject: |
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bisbee233 wrote:
Hi Klaus...no worries, not everything is for sale.
I have my own collection and also use them everyday. |
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