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Cameranorway
Joined: 23 Mar 2016 Posts: 5 Location: Norway
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2016 7:15 pm Post subject: Alpa cameras, how are they? |
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Cameranorway wrote:
Hello all.
I am new here. Great forum lots of good information.
Alpa, a camera that not many has seen nor used.
Any users here?
How are they? As good as it gets?
I did se two of them in a shop, a Alpa Reflex and a Alpa 8b.
The look is nice, feels very well made.
All, good, but how are they to live with? _________________ Have a good day all. |
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Jiaming
Joined: 09 Mar 2016 Posts: 106
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Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 3:20 am Post subject: |
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Jiaming wrote:
No hands on experience, but Alpa is quite famous. Should be pretty good. Waiting for pro answers |
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Cameranorway
Joined: 23 Mar 2016 Posts: 5 Location: Norway
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Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 4:59 am Post subject: |
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Cameranorway wrote:
Thanks for the reply. _________________ Have a good day all. |
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16544 Location: Weinheim, Germany
Expire: 2021-03-09
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Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 7:22 am Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
I prefer the lenses much over the bodies. _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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paulhofseth
Joined: 05 Mar 2011 Posts: 566 Location: Norway
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Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 7:30 am Post subject: Versatile |
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paulhofseth wrote:
The Alpas are solidly built and will allow you to mount any SLR-mount manual focus lens due to its short lens flange to film plane distance. So for using a broad selection of lenses with film, it is unsurpassed.
Since the cameras were virtually hand made in high-wage cost Switzerland, they were expensive when new. Over time they have not become cheaper than their contemporaries. The adapters for M42, Nikon etc. are not common and not cheap.
Lenses sold through Alpa (Angenieux, Kern, Kilfitt, Kinoptik, Schneider etc.) had quality control performed at the Alpa factory. Many, but not all used an auto-aperture system suited to the front shutter release. Some of the adapters have internal mechanics to operate the Takumar auto aperture pin.
I stopped using Alpas quite some time ago, but recall that the "wrong way" shutter cocking and the front release was easy to use The optics were also good. I did not like the 45degree prism of the early Alneas and preferred the later standard ones. The last built-in light meter types had an ingenious circuit that compensated for varying battery voltage. When mercury cells became unobtainable, the replacements worked.
If I were to buy an Alpa today for using a wide veriety of lenses on film, I would make sure that I could get the proper adapter. A beat up body with non functioning light meter but fully functional shutter would be the cheap option. Anyone with the technical interest, skill and patience to use a manual lens would easily pick up the skills to use a Metrawatt or Lunasix to measure light . The selenium light metering model (6c) might be a candidate. (Special models made without a meter -9f etc.- are exceedingly rare and hence expensive) .
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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7554 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 7:32 am Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
I have a Alpa 7 with jammed shutter and the adapter for Nikon F lens. They are good for collection or display. Get the other cameras if you want use it everyday. _________________ https://lensfever.com/
https://www.instagram.com/_lens_fever/
The best lens is the one you have with you. |
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Cameranorway
Joined: 23 Mar 2016 Posts: 5 Location: Norway
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Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 8:43 am Post subject: |
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Cameranorway wrote:
Thanks all for helping.
Yes, the Alpa`s are expensive, hand made do that to prices.
But, as paulhofseth say`s, they offer the use of a lot of different lenses. Only need the right adapter.
How is service on a Alpa today, spare parts still around?
I do like the 8b, even with its odd angered viewfinder..Need to do some more reading. _________________ Have a good day all. |
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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7554 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 9:37 am Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
Get a Konica camera if you need to use other lenses. There are adapters for Nikon F, Exakta and M42 lenses. _________________ https://lensfever.com/
https://www.instagram.com/_lens_fever/
The best lens is the one you have with you. |
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Cameranorway
Joined: 23 Mar 2016 Posts: 5 Location: Norway
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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Cameranorway wrote:
Well, yes, maybe. But, it is also the idea of having a camera not seen on every street corner, that is tempting. _________________ Have a good day all. |
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inombrable
Joined: 20 Mar 2012 Posts: 545 Location: Salamanca, Mexico
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Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 5:35 am Post subject: |
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inombrable wrote:
I have an Alpa 9d that i bought with some shutter and lightmeter issues. Light meter was dead but now is working and i must say is pretty accurate. Shutter problem was mainly excessive tension on the second curtain and now is working great. A quite heavy camera but very exciting and accurate. Unfortunately in my case i dont have any alpa glass as they are expensive but i use it with an M42 adapter.
As far as I know regarding repairing and spare parts i havent been able to find someone in the world (basically google search) that would attempt fixing this cameras. Not even the new Alpa company.
A very nice camera but i would advice against buying a damaged one unless you already have someone that will be willing to get the job done. _________________ -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
DSLR: Canon 5D, Nikon D200
SLR: Alpa 9d, Voigtlander VSL3E, Contax D
Medium Format: Hasselblad 500 EL/M, Praktisix, Rolleiflex standar 621
Rangefinder: Contax II, Contax III, Leica M2, Leica M4, Leica IIC, Nikon S2
M42:CZJ Flektogon 20 f/2.8, CZJ Flektogon 25 f/4, CZJ Flektogon 35 f/2.4, Color Skoparex 35 f/2.8, CZJ Pancolar 50 f/1.8, Super takumar 50 f/1.4, Meyer Primoplan 58 f/1.9, CZJ Tessar 50 f/2.8 alu, Jupiter 9 MC, Super Takumar 105 f/2.5, SMC Takumar 135 f/2.5, CZJ Sonnar 135 f/3.5 MC, CZJ Sonnar 135 f/3.5 Zebra, Super takumar 200 f/3.5
Nikon mount: Nippon kogaku Nikkor-N Auto 24 f/2.8, Nikon micro Nikkor 55 f/2.8, Kiron 105 f/2.8 macro.
C/Y: Planar 50 f/1.4, Yashica ML 50 f/1.4, Planar 85 f/1.4.
M39: Mir-1 Grand Prix Brussels, Helios 44 13 blades, Jupiter 11
Rangefinder: CZJ Biogon 3.5cm f/2.8, Sonnar 50 f/1.5, Sonnar 50 f/2, Nikkor-S 5 cm f/1.4, Summicron 50 f/2 DR, Summicron 50 f/2 collapsible, Summicron 35 f/2 V3. Jupiter 12, Jupiter 8, Jupiter 9, Elmar 90 f/4.
Canon EF: Voigtlander APO-Lanthar 90 f/3.5 SL-II
Exakta: Biotar 58 f/2
Adaptall: 103A, 46A, 19AH, 55B
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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7554 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 6:33 am Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
inombrable wrote: |
I have an Alpa 9d that i bought with some shutter and lightmeter issues. Light meter was dead but now is working and i must say is pretty accurate. Shutter problem was mainly excessive tension on the second curtain and now is working great. A quite heavy camera but very exciting and accurate. Unfortunately in my case i dont have any alpa glass as they are expensive but i use it with an M42 adapter.
As far as I know regarding repairing and spare parts i havent been able to find someone in the world (basically google search) that would attempt fixing this cameras. Not even the new Alpa company.
A very nice camera but i would advice against buying a damaged one unless you already have someone that will be willing to get the job done. |
You may contact them if you want to fix your camera but that will be costly.
http://www.3rcamera.com/camera_collectible.htm _________________ https://lensfever.com/
https://www.instagram.com/_lens_fever/
The best lens is the one you have with you. |
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Cameranorway
Joined: 23 Mar 2016 Posts: 5 Location: Norway
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Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 7:28 am Post subject: |
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Cameranorway wrote:
Thanks for the reply and help. _________________ Have a good day all. |
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Elmar Lang
Joined: 11 Apr 2012 Posts: 103
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Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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Elmar Lang wrote:
Hello,
I have an Alpa 11Si (chrome finish) with the Kern Makro Switar 50/1,8 and equipped with the japanese-made Auto-Alpa 35 and 135 lenses; and later added an Alpa 11Si (black) with the Kern Makro Switar 50/1,9.
Between the two ones, a further 11Si arrived, but of the "Gold" type.
Some moths ago, I purchased an Angénieux 28mm "Retrofocus".
Practically, it's a very fine camera, with a well-performing shutter and an accurate exposure meter. The strange advance lever with reversed movement requires a little practice, then it becomes normal and easy.
They were exceptionally expensive devices, but the chance to use almost any type of vintage lens is interesting (I like to mount the Zeiss Jena lenses, for instance).
I would avoid the older models, trying to focus the research for a practically usable Alpa to the 10 and 11 series.
Best wishes,
E.L. |
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