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LifesShort
Joined: 01 Feb 2016 Posts: 71 Location: Forsyth, GA, USA
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Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 1:28 am Post subject: 100mm v. 135mm Field of View |
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LifesShort wrote:
I acquired a Nikon 100mm f2.8 Series E lens about a month ago and fell in love with it. It's a really sharp lens and is a fantastic portrait lens. Something in the back of my mind kept telling me that I also needed a 135mm lens. At the same time, I kept thinking that I didn't really need a 135mm because there couldn't be that much difference in the field of view. I lucked into a Vivitar (Tokina) 135mm f2.8 for a price that I couldn't pass up. What was I to do? Today, I made two shots; one right after the other. The first is with the Vivitar 135mm and the second with the Nikon 100mm. Boy, was I wrong about the difference in FOV. I can't believe how big a difference there is! If you notice, framing on the right side is pretty much in the same place on both shots. I didn't use a tripod, so it isn't exactly the same, but very close. Notice how much more you see on the left side of the frame in the second shot. And it's not just FOV. The 135mm lens compresses the image quite a bit in relation to the 100mm.
On another note, I'm amazed in the the similarities of the color rendering between these two lenses. To my eye, they are very close in color. Additionally, both lenses proved to be very sharp, so I think I'll keep them both!
Vivitar (Tokina) 135mm f2.8 @ f8 (Sony A7II)
Vivitar 135mm by James Poupard, on Flickr
Nikon 100mm f2.8 Series E @ f8 (Sony A7II)
Nikon 100mm by James Poupard, on Flickr |
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WNG555
Joined: 18 Dec 2014 Posts: 784 Location: Arrid-Zone-A, USA
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Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 8:05 am Post subject: |
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WNG555 wrote:
Those two lenses do match up quite well! I have the 100mm Series-E and love it. And 135mm is a personal favorite of mine. Hard to make a bad 135, and there are a number of excellent ones available. Is the Vivitar-Tokina a T4 or TX model?
I have a Rikenon-Tokina version. It's a Sonnar derivative 4 elements in 3 groups. Suspect yours to be the same. _________________ "The eyes are useless when the mind is blind."
Sony ILCE-6000, SELP1650, SEL1855, SEL55210, SEL5018. Sigma 19/30/60mm f2.8 EX DN Art.
Rokinon 8mm f3.5 Fish-Eye, 14mm f2.8 IF ED UMC. Samyang 12mm f2.8 ED AS NCS Fish-Eye.
And a bunch of Manual-Focus Lenses
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scsambrook
Joined: 29 Mar 2009 Posts: 2167 Location: Glasgow Scotland
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Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 9:11 am Post subject: |
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scsambrook wrote:
Now you need an 85mm lens to make up the trio of"really useful" primes _________________ Stephen
Equipment: Pentax DSLR for casual shooting, Lumix G1 and Fuji XE-1 for playing with old lenses, and Leica M8 because I still like the optical rangefinder system. |
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LifesShort
Joined: 01 Feb 2016 Posts: 71 Location: Forsyth, GA, USA
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Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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LifesShort wrote:
WNG555 wrote: |
Those two lenses do match up quite well! I have the 100mm Series-E and love it. And 135mm is a personal favorite of mine. Hard to make a bad 135, and there are a number of excellent ones available. Is the Vivitar-Tokina a T4 or TX model?
I have a Rikenon-Tokina version. It's a Sonnar derivative 4 elements in 3 groups. Suspect yours to be the same. |
It's a T4 that came with the Canon FD T4 adapter. Until recently, I had never used any universal mount lenses, but I picked up a Tamron 17mm with the Adaptall-2 mount at a great price. It worked so well, I figured I may as well try the T4. It's like a whole new world has been opened up to me!
This isn't my lens, but it's exactly like it:
http://camera-wiki.org/wiki/Vivitar_T-4_135mm_f/2.8_Telephoto
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LifesShort
Joined: 01 Feb 2016 Posts: 71 Location: Forsyth, GA, USA
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Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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LifesShort wrote:
scsambrook wrote: |
Now you need an 85mm lens to make up the trio of"really useful" primes |
It's next on my list. Just don't tell my wife! |
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visualopsins
Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 10543 Location: California
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Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
Is FOV difference more or less on crop camera than on full frame camera? _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
Cameras: Sony ILCE-7RM2, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
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M42 Asahi Optical Co., Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200, Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300, Macro-Takumar 1:4/50, Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm, Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element), Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17, Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100, Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100, SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
M42 Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
Contax Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm F3.5-4.5
Pentax K-mount SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51BB), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
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LifesShort
Joined: 01 Feb 2016 Posts: 71 Location: Forsyth, GA, USA
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Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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LifesShort wrote:
visualopsins wrote: |
Is FOV difference more or less on crop camera than on full frame camera? |
I'm not sure I fully understand your question, but I'll try to answer what I think you are asking.
Assuming a crop factor of 1.5 and comparable focal lengths to the 100mm and 135mm, you would be using 67mm and 90mm lenses. The fields of view of the 100mm full frame and 67mm 1.5 crop would be the same. The fields of view of the 135mm full frame and 90mm 1.5 crop would be the same.
As long as the ratios between focal length and sensor size are kept the same, the field of view would be the same.
This can be confirmed using the "Angular Field of View Calculator" found here: (you'll have to scroll down the page to find it)
http://www.tawbaware.com/maxlyons/calc.htm |
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Gardener
Joined: 22 Sep 2013 Posts: 950 Location: USA
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Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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Gardener wrote:
FOV ratio for 100mm and 135mm is 4:3 - that's pretty sizable difference in my opinion. |
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