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scsambrook
Joined: 29 Mar 2009 Posts: 2167 Location: Glasgow Scotland
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Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 12:17 am Post subject: Nikkor 10.5cm f2.5 "Sonnar" |
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scsambrook wrote:
My Leica fitting example dates from around 1955 and is built like the proverbial battleship. It couples perfectly to my Leica's rangefinder and, thanks to Mr Leica's sloppy sizing of the viewfinder frames, works nicely with a 90mm screw to bayonet adapter.
It's a five element "Sonnar" pattern, coated, and with a pretty much circular iris form. Nikon changed the rear element later to extend the back focus to let it be mounted for the Nikon F SLR - I have one of those as well and can't really see any difference in how it performs. One of my favourites. and not bad for a lens designed around 1950 by a company still at the kindergarten stages of camera lens manufacture and relying on a chronically limited supply and selection of optical glass - no lanthanum or other "rare-earth" glass in Japan in the early 50s.
These shots were taken late last summer. Click on pics for bigger image.
This one taken at either f2.5 or f2.8 -
This one maybe at f4
This one maybe f4 -
_________________ Stephen
Equipment: Pentax DSLR for casual shooting, Lumix G1 and Fuji XE-1 for playing with old lenses, and Leica M8 because I still like the optical rangefinder system. |
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16498 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 12:29 am Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Looks very good to me Stephen! _________________ Klaus - Admin
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X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
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Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4060 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 1:15 am Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
Nice. _________________ Regards,
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6006 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 2:19 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
A good design, well made.
You show it well
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WNG555
Joined: 18 Dec 2014 Posts: 784 Location: Arrid-Zone-A, USA
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Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 10:16 am Post subject: |
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WNG555 wrote:
A fine performer! I like #1 and #3 a lot. _________________ "The eyes are useless when the mind is blind."
Sony ILCE-6000, SELP1650, SEL1855, SEL55210, SEL5018. Sigma 19/30/60mm f2.8 EX DN Art.
Rokinon 8mm f3.5 Fish-Eye, 14mm f2.8 IF ED UMC. Samyang 12mm f2.8 ED AS NCS Fish-Eye.
And a bunch of Manual-Focus Lenses
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exaklaus
Joined: 11 Aug 2009 Posts: 1633 Location: Niederrhein, Germany
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Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 11:16 am Post subject: |
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exaklaus wrote:
Good shots to prove the quality of that lens! _________________ my Ebay auctions
Canon 5D II,
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Gerald
Joined: 25 Mar 2014 Posts: 1196 Location: Brazil
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Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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Gerald wrote:
The three photos are technically perfect, but I like most the delicacy of the first one.
Nikon was founded in 1917 and was a major supplier of optical equipment for military use during World War II. After the end of war, Nikon was already a company with lots of experience and daring enough to challenge the German optical industry. Probably many of Japan's top optical designers worked for Nikon during the 1950s. _________________ If raindrops were perfect lenses, the rainbow did not exist. |
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vanylapep
Joined: 03 Jan 2014 Posts: 312
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Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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vanylapep wrote:
Is this the grand father of the Nikkor 105mm f/2.5 AI-S?
There are two silverblack versions, which one is yours? |
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anktonio
Joined: 20 Oct 2012 Posts: 219 Location: Spain
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Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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anktonio wrote:
It is a mythical lens. Color, contrast, detail... a very fine lens from wide open.There were two different designs, Sonnar type from the middle of the last century, and Gauss-Xenotar since early 70's. I have used both, but only kept the last version manufactured by Nikon (AI-s with SIC coated and built-in hood) because I saw significant differences in the results between the first and last version, especially wide open and adverse lighting conditions.
Since 50's until 70's
Since 70's
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57840 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
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Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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scsambrook
Joined: 29 Mar 2009 Posts: 2167 Location: Glasgow Scotland
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Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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scsambrook wrote:
vanylapep wrote: |
Is this the grand father of the Nikkor 105mm f/2.5 AI-S? There are two silverblack versions, which one is yours? |
Hi vanylapep - I suppose my Leica rangefinder model is indeed the"grandfather" of the 105/2.5 Ai-S, for which anktonio has given us a schematic. The first model 105/2.5 for the Nikon F had a slight modification to increase back focus in order to clear the mirror. The later Ai and AiS versions were substantially redesigned - you can read all about both versions at http://www.nikkor.com/story/0005/ and http://www.nikkor.com/story/0045/ which is where anktonio got his diagrams from. The information there should be dependable.
I have both the original rangefinder lens and the slightly modified SLR one - in fact, I have two of the latter. All three have different coatings but I really can see no difference in day-to-day picture making.
I don't think I've ever owned the later substantially modified version (I might have had one back in the 1980s but I'm not sure. . .) but I really like the character of the original one. I suppose I ought to see if I can find a later one now and give it a try. Experience has taught me that "significant differences" in technical performance don't always automatically translate into "better" photographs, which is why we all end up with so many different lenses
It's a shame Zeiss never made anything as useful back then . . . _________________ Stephen
Equipment: Pentax DSLR for casual shooting, Lumix G1 and Fuji XE-1 for playing with old lenses, and Leica M8 because I still like the optical rangefinder system. |
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Koen Nhz
Joined: 07 Jul 2011 Posts: 84 Location: Antwerp, Belgium
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Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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Koen Nhz wrote:
Very nice samples, I like the first one the best for the same reasons Gerald mentioned.
I also love the rendering of the Sonnar bokeh, especially in the last one, with the almost luminous green. _________________ Sony α7, 28-70 | Minolta Rokkor 58 1.2 | CZ 35 2.8, 50 1.7, 135 2.8 | Canon 40D, nFD 20 2.8, 70-210 4, 300 4 L, FD SSC: 24 2.8, 35 2.8 TS, 50 3.5 Macro, 55 1.2 ASPH, 100 2.8, 80-200 4, 200 2.8, 500 8 Reflex | Vivitar S1 90 2.5 | Nikkor 105 1.8 | Takumar 50 1.4, 55 1.8, 135 2.5 & 3.5 | Tair 300 4.5 | ... |
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scsambrook
Joined: 29 Mar 2009 Posts: 2167 Location: Glasgow Scotland
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Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 11:53 pm Post subject: |
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scsambrook wrote:
Thanks to all those who've said nice things about the images from my 60-year old Nikkor - it has a certain charm about it that's difficult to resist. _________________ Stephen
Equipment: Pentax DSLR for casual shooting, Lumix G1 and Fuji XE-1 for playing with old lenses, and Leica M8 because I still like the optical rangefinder system. |
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16498 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 8:52 am Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
_________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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