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HKG
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 Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 11:36 am Post subject: 200mm F2.8 what's the choice? |
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HKG wrote:
1) Soligor 200mm F2.8
2) Minolta 200/2.8 TELE ROKKOR
3) Canon NFD 200mm F2.8
4) CARL ZEISS JENA SONNAR 200/2.8 M42
5) Others
What is your recommendation? |
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Arctures
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| Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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Arctures wrote:
Nikon 180/2.8 ED is in my wish list. It is 20mm shorter but delivers simply wonderful results.
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Gardener
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| Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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Gardener wrote:
I used to have a Soligor. It's a pleasant lens, heavy, built like a tank. However I found focusing to be a daunting task. I don't know whether it's my ability, or the lens, but I could never a sharp enough image at 2.8. |
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vanylapep
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| Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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vanylapep wrote:
Do you mind describing the characteristics of each of them? |
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f1.2
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| Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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f1.2 wrote:
| Gardener wrote: |
| I used to have a Soligor. It's a pleasant lens, heavy, built like a tank. However I found focusing to be a daunting task. I don't know whether it's my ability, or the lens, but I could never a sharp enough image at 2.8. |
It shall be Lens problem, 200mm is very easier for focusing |
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hifisapi
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hifisapi wrote:
While it's a little shorter focal length at 180mm, but the tamron sp ld if 180mm f2.5 adaptall2 lens is outstanding, even wide open.
Cost is kinda high now because it was a limited edition, around $700 on ebay today in nm condition.
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DR.JUAN
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| Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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DR.JUAN wrote:
The better of all, IMHO, is the AF canon 1,8/200.
In MF, the 180/3,4 Leica Apo Telyt . 180 is near 200 and 3,4 is near 2,8. And the IQ is excellent. |
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Pontus
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| Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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Pontus wrote:
I know we are drifting, but the Nikkor 200/2 in early manual focus versions can be had for less than 1000 euros if you are patient. Just as an alternative to the Canon that was mentioned (Very large and heavy though as is the Canon).
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Attila
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| Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Define your budget and you can get more accurate hints. If you have 200 USD that is different than if you have 2000 USD ...
from your list I had Soligor, Sonnar and Minolta, Soligor is cheap and image quality cheap too.. Minolta is best option from these three , due size I talk about latest Minolta.
from 180mm I had Tamron , Nikon ED non ED, Carl Zeiss Jena ,Carl Zeiss , Olympus OM and many others too, I like best Zeiss lenses.
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| Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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Pontus wrote:
+1 on the Minolta if you are on a budget.
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stingOM
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| Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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stingOM wrote:
I would choose Tamron 80-200mm f2.8 |
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Oldhand
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| Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
| DR.JUAN wrote: |
The better of all, IMHO, is the AF canon 1,8/200.
In MF, the 180/3,4 Leica Apo Telyt . 180 is near 200 and 3,4 is near 2,8. And the IQ is excellent. |
f3.5 is near f2.8
If you are prepared to accept an f3.5 200, then there are dozens of lenses at a fraction of the cost of 200 f2.8
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Attila
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| Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
| Oldhand wrote: |
| DR.JUAN wrote: |
The better of all, IMHO, is the AF canon 1,8/200.
In MF, the 180/3,4 Leica Apo Telyt . 180 is near 200 and 3,4 is near 2,8. And the IQ is excellent. |
f3.5 is near f2.8
If you are prepared to accept an f3.5 200, then there are dozens of lenses at a fraction of the cost of 200 f2.8
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+1 or f4 one stop really no matter in most case
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Lloydy wrote:
Go for a zoom - the Tokina AT-X 80-200 / 2.8 is a worthy contender.
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DR.JUAN
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| Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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DR.JUAN wrote:
| Attila wrote: |
| Oldhand wrote: |
| DR.JUAN wrote: |
The better of all, IMHO, is the AF canon 1,8/200.
In MF, the 180/3,4 Leica Apo Telyt . 180 is near 200 and 3,4 is near 2,8. And the IQ is excellent. |
f3.5 is near f2.8
If you are prepared to accept an f3.5 200, then there are dozens of lenses at a fraction of the cost of 200 f2.8
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+1 or f4 one stop really no matter in most case |
You have a very good 4/180 Leica R Elmar
http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic.php?t=35510 |
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HKG
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| Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 11:53 pm Post subject: |
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HKG wrote:
Thanks to all !
But dont gotoff the subject, I means my budget can just afford usd400 Max. Therefore Thousand dollar or euro shall be not my cup of tea.
So far may interest to follow Attila opinion - Minolta but seems still a bit far away then my ability to pay. Anyway, Dear Attila, will you show me the Lens looking or other particulars of this Minolta, I dont want to get wrong version after bid. One more question is it serious on dispersion when full open, please advice or show me the photo to prove, thanks again. |
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woodrim
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| Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 12:25 am Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
I am in sparse company here, but for the sake of diversity, my suggestion is Vivitar Series 1 200/3.
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Attila
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Attila wrote:
this is what I did test and sold among to my friend.
Click here to see on Ebay
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HKG
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| Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 2:20 am Post subject: |
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HKG wrote:
Appreciate!!
Like to see the photos you had taken by this lens ! |
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Tedat
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| Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:22 am Post subject: |
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Tedat wrote:
from your list: Minolta
Otherwise a Contax Sonnar 2.8/180mm.. but the mentioned Vivitar Series 1 200/3 would be a good (and realively cheap) option too.
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Attila wrote:
http://www.mflenses.com/gallery/v/japenese/minolta/minolta_md_200mm_f2_8_n11/
http://forum.mflenses.com/minolta-200mm-f2-8-md-sony-nex-3-portrait-t61107,highlight,%2Bminolta+%2Bmd+%2B200mm.html
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HKG
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| Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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HKG wrote:
Thanks again, Attila!
I decided to book Vivitar Series 1 200/3 as the price reason, I just placed order on website @usd200 including delivery |
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woodrim
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| Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 2:16 pm Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
| HKG wrote: |
Thanks again, Attila!
I decided to book Vivitar Series 1 200/3 as the price reason, I just placed order on website @usd200 including delivery |
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Tedat
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| Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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Tedat wrote:
$200 sounds a bit on the high side for me.. did the prices rise this much now?
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LucisPictor wrote:
If it doesn't have to be an f/2.8 and an f/3.5 is fast enough, you should try to get hold of a Russian Telear-N 3.5/200. Very, very good lens and not too expensive (it's hardly known).
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