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edri
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 Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2015 11:47 am Post subject: Tele lenses with "oil painting" bokeh? |
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edri wrote:
After I read here on the forum, these days they arrived to me, they are takumar 55/2.2 and Chinon 55/1.7 lenses, which are characterized by such a pictural "oil" bokeh. Also lenses with a pictorial bokeh I think it would be Chinon 55/1.4 and Industar 61. I think I have already enough 50mm lenses, among others who do not have painting bokeh and it's time to stop buying such lenses. So I'd like a lens with a focal length in the 100-200mm range, which offer such a pictorial bokeh.
In conclusion, the question is what lenses in the 100-200mm offer a pictorial bokeh? It may also include projector lenses.
I'd like to buy it quickly and then start anti LBA treatment. 
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alonpo
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alonpo wrote:
Not sure if considered as "Oil painting" bokeh, but the Vivitar 135mm f2.8 close focusing can produce some fun, interesting bokeh (subjectively..)
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kryss wrote:
Great lens,I recommend.....
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edri
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edri wrote:
I would rather not talk about this lens, or at least not to post so pleasant photos  For a year and a half I'm looking for such a lens and I have not found for the Pentax K mount. What would be the usual price?
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DigiChromeEd
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DigiChromeEd wrote:
Kryss, please stop posting pictures of your version of this lens!!! 
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calvin83 wrote:
I tried the 135 CF on A7. It is a pretty good lens although the purple fringing is quiet prominent.
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RubberFlubber wrote:
Kryss, what version of the lens is that one? 
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oldali
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oldali wrote:
Trioplan 2,8/100
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Lloydy wrote:
Both taken with lens wide open. I love the Pentacon 135, and it's 200 big brother.
Pentacon 135 / 2.8
Minolta Tele Rokkor 135 / 2.8
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kryss wrote:
edrie...I apologies for the flagrant display,I wonder if I should have put a Nude tag on it.Rarer than the non close focusing version of which I have 3 Komines (1 chrome nose) for some unknown reason. My version is customized which includes a CLA and lots of bling.
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kryss wrote:
Ed, I apologize for getting you excited with such debauchery,my bad. 
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kryss wrote:
RubberFlubber...Customized,I can give you details.Many lenses qualify and can include colour anodizing of aperture/focusing ring.
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Lloydy wrote:
Don't discount zoom lenses, this old Tamron BBAR 85-210 / 3.5 is sharp and produces great bokeh.
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cellotone wrote:
Angenieux 70-210/3.5 wide open at f3.5.
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kryss wrote:
WOW...I love the Daffy David,I have this lens I will have to use it soon.. 
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Oldhand wrote:
Vivitar Komine 200mm f3
Quite good even though heavy.
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cellotone wrote:
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Trioplan 2,8/100
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| RubberFlubber...Customized,I can give you details.Many lenses qualify and can include colour anodizing of aperture/focusing ring. |
I'm pretty interested, actually. Though, I couldn't afford it right now.
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Lloydy wrote:
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| WOW...I love the Daffy David,I have this lens I will have to use it soon.. |
Tamron BBAR Z210 Macro
It's a sleeper lens, cheap as chips, nobody cares about it, grab one while you can. It's one of the few zooms I wouldn't part with.
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Raxar wrote:
in my experience you can not get great painting bokeh with lens longer than 60mm unless they close-focus or macro and still not quite good as 50~60 lens!
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eno789
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eno789 wrote:
A tele-zoom.
Tamron SP 70-210mm f/3.5-4, Adaptall-2 52A, http://adaptall-2.org/lenses/52A.html
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vanylapep
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vanylapep wrote:
Do you consider this "pictorial bokeh"?
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eno789
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eno789 wrote:
Konica Hexanon AR 135mm f/3.2, on micro 4/3.
To me, the bokeh seems like brush strokes, while still remains calm.
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uhoh7
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uhoh7 wrote:
Actually "oil painting" is what I like to avoid. I don't want to see those segregated brushstrokes. To my eye the good ones do watercolor 
My 500/4 is pretty good:
DSC07360-2 by unoh7, on Flickr
But in your range 100-200, I have about 30 lenses. The best, for your criteria, from mine, is the Mandler's Leitz 135/2.8 M, which is not that expensive, but not that small
Mandler 135 by unoh7, on Flickr
135/2.8 by unoh7, on Flickr
I must have 10 135s. But for character none are close to this one, and it's very sharp also. For landscape and something smaller I invested in the Leica 135/3.4 APO which is really incredible, but at least half the time when I need a 135 I grab this 350$ lens. Of course 350 is actually a lot for a 135 LOL, but this is the last version, and the early ones are even cheaper, and seem to use the same formula. The googles don't come off I'm afraid, but they add mystery on the A7.mod However, you'd need to verify, but I believe the same formula was used for an R lens also, which of course does not have the googles:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/135MM-135-2-8-LEITZ-ELMARIT-R-FOR-LEICA-R-LEICAFLEX-THREE-CAM-184561-/361443498076?hash=item5427b6185c:g:kzcAAOSwAKxWYlRL
If that has BIN of 275, I would say it might be found for 250USD.
While Leica users poo poo the lens, and 135s in general, DDD non-withstanding, this lens has some good curves:
Elmarit M 135/2.8 Charts by unoh7, on Flickr
One last snap this time on the A7.mod (bokeh shot is on M9):
Big Trunks by unoh7, on Flickr
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ZoneV wrote:
Painterly bokeh and longer focal length:
Meyer Trioplan 100mm/2.8 or Diaplan or Pentacon projection lens
Meyer Telemegor lenses could give something near the same.
Modified Sigma YS 135mm f/2.8 as Nikon Defocus Copy DC alternative
The sometimes hated mirror lenses could give a painterly bokeh too!
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