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stingOM

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Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:07 pm Post subject: Nikkor 135mm f2

stingOM wrote: Anyone tried this lens before? IS it on par or better than the Canon FD version? Thanks.

malsano

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Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 8:49 am Post subject:

malsano wrote: I had the Nikon 135 f2 ais (two copies) and I was very happy about it. I even compared it with canon EF 135 F2 and from my side are very similar on my 5d mk III (I was surprised even for the colors that looked similar). A very good lens. Really suggested in case you'll find for a good price (below 600$). ciao _________________ "Every picture tells you a story" CANON EOS: 5d mk III, 24 f1.4 L mkII, 24 f3.5 L mk II, 50 f1.0 L, 300 f2.8 L IS, 16-35 f2.8 L mkII, 24-70 f2.8 L CANON FD: F1N AE, T90, 14 f2.8 L, 17 f4, 24 f1,4L, 24 f2, 28 f2, 35 f2 Thorio,35 f2.8 TS, 50 1.2 L, 55 1.2 ASPHERICAL, 85 f1.2L, 100 f2 , 135 f2, 200 f2,8 IF new, 300 f2.8 Fluorite, 20-35 f3.5 L, 28-85 f4, 35-105 f3.5, 35-105 f3.5-4.5 ASPH, 50-300 f4.5L, 80-200 f4 L, 100-300 f5.6 L, 500L f4,5 CONTAX 645 AE with 45 f2.8, 80 f2, 120 f4 makro, CONTAX: Yashica FR, contax 15 f3.5, contax 18 f4 AE, contax 21 f2.8 , yashica 24 f2.8 ML, contax 28 f2 AE, yashica 28 f2.8 ML, contax 35 f1.4 AE, contax 50 f1.4 AE, contax 50 f1.7AE, contax 85 f1.2 60th MM, contax 100 f2, contax 135 f2 AE. OLYMPUS OM: OM2, 18 f3.5, 21 f2, 35 f2.8 new, 50 f1.8 new, 55 f1.2 NIKON: F2As, 28 f1.4 D LAICA R: 180 3,4 APO E60 HELIOS: 40-2 85 f1.5 SONY a7

stingOM

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Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 2:04 pm Post subject:

stingOM wrote: Thanks for that feedback. What do you think of the its wide open performance? I understand it bokeh is exceptional. Thanks.

malsano

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Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 7:55 am Post subject:

malsano wrote: I'm using mostly for portrait . WO is sharp on center and unsharp on the medium/end corner. For me it's a plus, for others a problem. I'm looking for a boken and soft performance on corners for my pictures style. If you'd like a tele for full sharp pictures, may be better other lenses not so fast. _________________ "Every picture tells you a story" CANON EOS: 5d mk III, 24 f1.4 L mkII, 24 f3.5 L mk II, 50 f1.0 L, 300 f2.8 L IS, 16-35 f2.8 L mkII, 24-70 f2.8 L CANON FD: F1N AE, T90, 14 f2.8 L, 17 f4, 24 f1,4L, 24 f2, 28 f2, 35 f2 Thorio,35 f2.8 TS, 50 1.2 L, 55 1.2 ASPHERICAL, 85 f1.2L, 100 f2 , 135 f2, 200 f2,8 IF new, 300 f2.8 Fluorite, 20-35 f3.5 L, 28-85 f4, 35-105 f3.5, 35-105 f3.5-4.5 ASPH, 50-300 f4.5L, 80-200 f4 L, 100-300 f5.6 L, 500L f4,5 CONTAX 645 AE with 45 f2.8, 80 f2, 120 f4 makro, CONTAX: Yashica FR, contax 15 f3.5, contax 18 f4 AE, contax 21 f2.8 , yashica 24 f2.8 ML, contax 28 f2 AE, yashica 28 f2.8 ML, contax 35 f1.4 AE, contax 50 f1.4 AE, contax 50 f1.7AE, contax 85 f1.2 60th MM, contax 100 f2, contax 135 f2 AE. OLYMPUS OM: OM2, 18 f3.5, 21 f2, 35 f2.8 new, 50 f1.8 new, 55 f1.2 NIKON: F2As, 28 f1.4 D LAICA R: 180 3,4 APO E60 HELIOS: 40-2 85 f1.5 SONY a7

stingOM

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Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 6:56 am Post subject:

stingOM wrote: Thanks again. Do you have some samples or gallery I can view?

trifox

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Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 12:21 pm Post subject:

trifox wrote: IT IS a pair to Canon FD 135 f2 Hard to say which one is better - I'd say they both have unique character - they have different optical designs Nikkor 135 f2 has nice '3D' rendering... I decided to sell the Nikkor 135 f2 BUT not in favour of my Canon FD 135 f2 though tf _________________ Flickr.com

stingOM

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Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 10:14 pm Post subject:

stingOM wrote: Some nice shots there. Thank you for sharing. That help a lot for me to think about getting it or not.

stingOM

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Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 9:21 am Post subject:

stingOM wrote: I found some more samples here: http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/925349/1 http://nikongear.com/live/index.php?/topic/40393-135mm-f2-ais-nikkor/ http://www.nikon-fotografie.de/vbulletin/beispielbilder-zu-objektiven/162035-nikon-ai-s-135-2-a.html http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic.php?t=24113 Optical formula is quiet different from the Canon FD version: http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/companies/nikon/nikkoresources/135mmnikkor/135mm2.htm http://www.nikon-image.com/enjoy/interview/historynikkor/2006/0610/ http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/companies/canon/fdresources/fdlenses/135mm.htm Last edited by stingOM on Mon Apr 01, 2013 2:39 pm; edited 2 times in total

OPAL

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Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 9:53 am Post subject: Nikon 135/2

OPAL wrote: I guess that all "speedy 135mm lenses" are not so bad, I am pleased with my MC 1,8/135mm SIGMATEL for many years, first on my Contax RTSIII and Contax AX, and now adapted on my Canon 5DMkII!

trifox

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Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 10:07 am Post subject:

trifox wrote:

stingOM wrote:

I found some more samples here:

http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/925349/1
http://nikongear.com/live/index.php?/topic/40393-135mm-f2-ais-nikkor/

Optical formula is quiet different from the Canon FD version:
http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/companies/nikon/nikkoresources/135mmnikkor/135mm2.htm
http://www.nikon-image.com/enjoy/interview/historynikkor/2006/0610/
http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/companies/canon/fdresources/fdlenses/135mm.htm

...and look at this Marco Cavina's site, you can found optical design and samples taken with nikkor 135 f2;
http://www.marcocavina.com/articoli_fotografici/Nikkor_lenses_by_Sei_Matsui/00_pag.htm
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nixland

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Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 5:05 am Post subject:

nixland wrote:

trifox wrote:

IT IS a pair to Canon FD 135 f2

Hard to say which one is better - I'd say they both have unique character - they have different optical designs

Nikkor 135 f2 has nice '3D' rendering...

I decided to sell the Nikkor 135 f2 BUT not in favour of my Canon FD 135 f2 though Wink

Trifox, is FD 135 lens renders differently?

I had Canon EF 135/2, but for so long I am very curious and want to try this Nikon 135/2 (and also Minolta 135/2 .. sadly very expensive due to rarity Sad

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sonyrokkor

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Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 6:58 pm Post subject:

sonyrokkor wrote: I had the Minolta 2/135. It had not the IQ of the 4 elements MD 2,8/135. I sold it when tried the canon 2/135. The last is the best for me. Didn't try the nikon. _________________ Los espejos son abominables, pues sin coito aumentan la cantidad de hombres. J. L. Borges

ZuikosHexanonsandVivitars

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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2023 8:29 pm Post subject:

ZuikosHexanonsandVivitars wrote: Almost time to celebrate the 10th anniversary ot this thread and high time to disinhume said undead I have a 135 f2 AiS since November the previous year and last week I finally took it for a hike to the mountains. The images it produces are downright cute, however in certain situations CA can become a wee bit obvious in a way that some areas show up suspiciously red(ish). Trees on snow are good candidates for that. The crops are about 200%. #1 ISO 100, 1/30s f5.6 #2 Crop from above picture, right margin. #3 ISO 100, 1/1250, f8 #4 Crop from above image, lower left margin _________________ Cheers, Gerhard

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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2023 9:42 pm Post subject:

stevemark wrote:

ZuikosHexanonsandVivitars wrote:

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I have a 135 f2 AiS since November the previous year and last week I finally took it for a hike to the mountains. The images it produces are downright cute, however in certain situations CA can become a wee bit obvious in a way that some areas show up suspiciously red(ish).

Most vintage MF 2/135mm and 2.8/135mm lenses do have this problem. Especially the "common" 2/135mm lenses (Canon nFD 2/135, Nikkor AI/AiS 2/135 and Minolta MD 2/135) are corrected for least lateral CAs at f2. Stopping down makes lateral CAs more visible. Sadly, longitudinal CAs (LoCAs / purple fringing) are most obvious wide open ...

Konica seems to have had a slightly different philosophy. Many of their 1970s lenses have least lateral CAs when stopped down to about f5.6 or f8. Notable examples are their AR 1.8/85, 2.5/135 and 3.2/135 lenses. The Zeiss CY 2.8/135 has pretty low lateral CAs as well, and so does the Nikkor-Q 2.8/135mm.

Generally speaking, many very common vintage MF telezooms - stopped down to f8 and at f=135mm - have less CAs and a better image quality than the corresponding 2.8/135 designs from the same manufacturer (Canon nFD 4/80-200L, Minolta MD 4/70-210 and Zeiss CY 4/80-200, to name a few).

BTW did you know that Nikon made a prototype 2/135mm lens as early as 1963?
http://www.photosynthesis.co.nz/nikon/F135mm/135_2_proto.html

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Doc Sharptail

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Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2023 5:15 am Post subject:

Doc Sharptail wrote:

stevemark wrote:

BTW did you know that Nikon made a prototype 2/135mm lens as early as 1963?
http://www.photosynthesis.co.nz/nikon/F135mm/135_2_proto.html

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Interesting lens, even for a proto-type.
The tripod socket shown is one I've never seen before, and a bit ahead of it's time.

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ZuikosHexanonsandVivitars

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Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2023 11:02 am Post subject:

ZuikosHexanonsandVivitars wrote:

stevemark wrote:

From the few test images I´ve taken so far with this lens on dull grey winter days wide open, it appears to me that LoCAs wide open are rather unremarkable with this lens. This hiking tour was the first time I tried it in bright light and stopped down. Your explanation is very helpful in understanding and using this lens in the best way: wide open Wink

stevemark wrote:

Konica seems to have had a slightly different philosophy. Many of their 1970s lenses have least lateral CAs when stopped down to about f5.6 or f8. Notable examples are their AR 1.8/85, 2.5/135 and 3.2/135 lenses. The Zeiss CY 2.8/135 has pretty low lateral CAs as well, and so does the Nikkor-Q 2.8/135mm.

I have the Hexanon 85/1.8. This summer I took images of a sunset with harsh contrast from the black mountains to the still bright sky with the Alpha7ii and the 85mm Hexanon attached to it, aperture 5.6. Few minutes later the same motive again with the EM-1 and the 12-40mm f2.8 M.Zuiko @2.8. The Hexanon image appears even a tad better than the one taken with the modern Zuiko with a very thin, decent red hue above the dark mountain range. Now that´s pixel peeping at its best and probably comparing apples to peaches, but still a pleasant surprise to see how good a 50 year old lens can perform in comparison to a modern one with an excellent reputation.
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KEO

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Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 7:05 pm Post subject:

KEO wrote: If you're considering the 135/2 AiS Nikkor, I would also recommend checking out the 135/2 DC Nikkor, which is perfectly usable as an all-manual adapted lens.

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Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2023 3:06 am Post subject:

calvin83 wrote: The DC 135 is much more fun to use! _________________ https://lensfever.com/ https://www.instagram.com/_lens_fever/ The best lens is the one you have with you.

KEO

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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2023 8:10 pm Post subject:

KEO wrote:

calvin83 wrote:

The DC 135 is much more fun to use!

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