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Lightshow
Joined: 04 Nov 2011 Posts: 3669 Location: Calgary
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Posted: Sun May 31, 2015 10:39 pm Post subject: New car or old lens... Zeiss Biotar 85/1.9 |
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Lightshow wrote:
I don't ever recall seeing or hearing of this lens... http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Zeiss-Biotar-1-9-8-5cm-2370028-Heavy-for-Exakta-/271882925794
Any information about it? Is this price fair or insane? _________________ A Manual Focus Junky...
One photographers junk lens is an artists favorite tool.
My lens list
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fermy
Joined: 17 Feb 2012 Posts: 2877
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Posted: Sun May 31, 2015 11:28 pm Post subject: |
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fermy wrote:
It's insane even if it were fair
The seller claims that only 2 pieces were produced. If we take it at face value, there is no way to determine a fair price for such item. I haven't heard about such lens either. It does not look like an obvious fake though. _________________ Many lenses and some film bodies for sale here: http://forum.mflenses.com/canon-fd-minolta-md-c-mounts-m42-pentax-and-more-t50465.html
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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7548 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Sun May 31, 2015 11:34 pm Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
The price may be fair for you if you have deep pockets. I would rather buy a 8.5cm F1.75 Sonnar if I have budgets. _________________ https://lensfever.com/
https://www.instagram.com/_lens_fever/
The best lens is the one you have with you.
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Lightshow
Joined: 04 Nov 2011 Posts: 3669 Location: Calgary
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Posted: Sun May 31, 2015 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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Lightshow wrote:
I don't care how deep your pockets go, that price is insane, the most I could see paying for it is maybe $4000, if I had the money to burn, and really needed it, I don't and I don't, so I won't.
I guess I'm curious to know if this is going rate or a fishing expedition, I'm thinking the latter. _________________ A Manual Focus Junky...
One photographers junk lens is an artists favorite tool.
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newst
Joined: 21 Oct 2014 Posts: 617 Location: Troy, MI USA
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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 12:17 am Post subject: |
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newst wrote:
If I were ever going to ask that kind of money for a lens I would have at least cleaned off the grime and fingerprints before I photographed it. _________________ Steve
Just an armadillo on the shoulder of the information superhighway. |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57840 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 2:38 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Shameless seller...
I especially love +VAT on second hand items... _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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tb_a
Joined: 26 Jan 2010 Posts: 3678 Location: Austria
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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:43 am Post subject: |
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tb_a wrote:
Obviously there is a market for such things.
In Vienna the Leicashop does sell even more expensive items on regular basis: http://www.westlicht-auction.com/index.php?id=3
On their next auction the most expensive lens has a starting price of 150.000 Euros.
Usually somebody will buy it.
I really don't care about such things. Other people are collecting old cars or paintings for even more. So what?
For pure photographic purposes it doesn't make sense to pay more then a few thousand Euros per lens anyway for the most sophisticated lens, if it is really required at all for any special reason by some professionals.
Even in my former life when I had a higher budget I avoided to spend more than 1000 Euros for a lens. Although I have some lenses in my collection which would go for higher prices nowadays I didn't spent that much when I bought them. So at least it was a good investment.
At the end of the day it's a business like the trading of antiques or likewise and some people make really good money on that.
Is the price insane? I don't think so. Nobody is really in need of such items.
I wouldn't buy the lens even for 1000 Euros as I do not make my money for living on the trading of lenses. My lenses are for photographic purposes only. I doubt that this lens is of any good use for that. My Super Takumar 85mm/F1.9 or my MC Rokkor 85mm/F1.7 will do the same job, maybe even better. For practical reasons I would prefer my Minolta AF 85mm/F1.4 anyway.
Finally I doubt that anybody would be in the position to judge the difference on the final picture whether the photo was taken with the offered lens or with let's say an old Jupiter 9 85mm/F2 in LTM for 100 Euros. I would bet on that. _________________ Thomas Bernardy
Manual focus lenses mainly from Minolta, Pentax, Voigtlaender, Leitz, Topcon and from Russia (too many to be listed here). |
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Gardener
Joined: 22 Sep 2013 Posts: 950 Location: USA
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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 4:18 am Post subject: |
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Gardener wrote:
I don't see what is insane or shameless about it. It's a collector's item and may be well worth it to a right person. There are only about a dozen of O-series Leicas in existence and they go for $2.5-3M nowadays. |
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ZoneV
Joined: 09 Nov 2009 Posts: 1633 Location: Germany
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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 4:42 am Post subject: |
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ZoneV wrote:
I see no problem with such prices - but I doubt he will get it via Ebay.
Such really rare collector items are better in a collectors vault or a museum than in my hand or the hands from other users.
So they likely last longer. _________________ Camera modification, repair and DIY - some links to look through: http://www.4photos.de/camera-diy/index-en.html
I AM A LENS NERD!
Epis, Elmaron, Emerald, Ernostar, Helioplan and Heidosmat.
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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7548 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 4:44 am Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
There is a Hugo Meyer Kino Plasmat 9cm f1.5 in westlicht-auction now. _________________ https://lensfever.com/
https://www.instagram.com/_lens_fever/
The best lens is the one you have with you. |
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exaklaus
Joined: 11 Aug 2009 Posts: 1633 Location: Niederrhein, Germany
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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 5:34 am Post subject: |
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exaklaus wrote:
Compared to the common Trioplan lenses, this price tag for such a lens, that was produced just twice, sounds high, but ok. _________________ my Ebay auctions
Canon 5D II,
Fuji GW690III, Fuji G617, Fujifilm X-E1
Bessaflex TM
Tachihara 4"x5"
Summilux-R 1:1,4/50
Canon FD 85mm 1:1,2
Color-Heliar 75mm F2.5 SL
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16498 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 6:04 am Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
I don't understand such discussions about prices. It is a free market and it regulates itself.
A rare item indeed, nice looking lens it is. Thiele mentions two lenses made as prototypes. _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
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http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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tb_a
Joined: 26 Jan 2010 Posts: 3678 Location: Austria
Expire: 2019-08-28
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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 6:43 am Post subject: |
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tb_a wrote:
kds315* wrote: |
I don't understand such discussions about prices. It is a free market and it regulates itself.
A rare item indeed, nice looking lens it is. Thiele mentions two lenses made as prototypes. |
But it's sometimes quite entertaining to discuss about such unimportant issues and see what other's may think about it. _________________ Thomas Bernardy
Manual focus lenses mainly from Minolta, Pentax, Voigtlaender, Leitz, Topcon and from Russia (too many to be listed here). |
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Srdjan
Joined: 11 Apr 2012 Posts: 316 Location: Nis
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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 7:13 am Post subject: Carl Zeiss Biotar 75mm f/1.5 |
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Srdjan wrote:
I have a friend who have Carl Zeiss Biotar 75mm f/1.5 Exa and selling it if enyone interested let me know _________________ Perfection is just another type of anomaly |
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Marek
Joined: 13 Apr 2014 Posts: 903 Location: In the heart of Europe
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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 10:53 am Post subject: |
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Marek wrote:
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Is this price fair or insane? |
Pretty much none of my (our) business, I would say. With pockets not deep enough to speak into this auction in any way.
Simple offer x demand market rule will decide, nothing more and nothing less.
Though I'm curious how is the market value of 10cm Biotar that one of the guys here bought at Leicashop some years ago around €300. Must have been a bargain of cosmic proportions. Maybe he's planning a very nice retirement already.
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I have a friend who have Carl Zeiss Biotar 75mm f/1.5 Exa and selling it if enyone interested let me know |
What's the deal? _________________ Angry young man !
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