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Nordentro
Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 4713 Location: Lillehammer, Norway
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Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 5:07 pm Post subject: Soligor 135mm f3.5 m39 - any info? |
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Nordentro wrote:
I have this Old Soligor 135mm lens. It has similar style as old canon lenses (post serenars?). Do anyone have information about who made it and when it was produced?
Serial is quite short - No. 1219T
_________________ Lars | Manuellfokus.no |
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martyn_bannister
Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 1151
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Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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martyn_bannister wrote:
Hi there,
This thread seems to conclude that a "T" suffix is a Tamron made lens? Others have intimated that the SOLIGOR in script, rather than capitals, is an early lens trait. No other info, sorry. |
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luisalegria
Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 6627 Location: San Francisco, USA
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Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
Very early Soligor (I will guess mid-late 1950's) and very uncommon.
There are few Soligors in M39 Leica mount - it is rangefinder coupled isn't it ?
There are many very early 135 Soligors in Argus rangefinder screw mount. One of those at least is definitely a Fujita, the 135/4.5 also sold as a Fujitar and a "Robin". This one has little resemblance to that Fujita though.
In this case I would not care to guess, there are a lot of suspects from that time. It could still be a Fujita because of some stylistic resemblance to other known Fujita-made lenses, and the fact that M39 rangefinder lenses usually were completely different designs may excuse any differences.
There are many early Tamrons sold as Soligor, but I have never heard of a Leica mount Tamron lens.
Some lenses that are very likely to be by Fujita -
http://forum.mflenses.com/fujita-the-forgotten-maker-t22482,highlight,fujita+forgotten.html _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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fatdeeman
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Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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fatdeeman wrote:
No info to offer but it looks very nice! _________________ - Dave
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Tele: Pentacon 135mm F/2.8, Pentacon 200mm F/3.5, Optomax 200mm f/3.5, Sun Optical 135mm F/3.5, Soligor 350mm F/5.6
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Nordentro
Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 4713 Location: Lillehammer, Norway
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Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
Thx for the information
Here's a picture of the mount, I don't know how rangfinder coupled looks like
Info from camerapedia:
"35mm f3.5 Soligor, black and chrome
105mm f4 Soligor, black
135mm f3.5 Soligor, black and chrome"
So I guess this may be the 135mm mentioned ?
http://www.camerapedia.org/wiki/39mm_screw_lenses#Soligor _________________ Lars | Manuellfokus.no |
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luisalegria
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Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
Thats the rangefinder coupling right there - that brass "tongue" moves the rangefinder wheel on the Leica. _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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Nordentro
Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 4713 Location: Lillehammer, Norway
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Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
luisalegria wrote: |
Thats the rangefinder coupling right there - that brass "tongue" moves the rangefinder wheel on the Leica. |
Okey Thank you! _________________ Lars | Manuellfokus.no |
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walter g
Joined: 20 Feb 2010 Posts: 2463 Location: NC, USA
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Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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walter g wrote:
Nice lens. Not one you will likely find cheap. When they are listed, you can expect the price in the $300 + USD range. I believe the leica mount ones sell higher. but I can't remember the last one I saw. _________________
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Panasonic G5,Nikon J1,Pentax Q10,Sony Nex 6
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Nordentro
Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 4713 Location: Lillehammer, Norway
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Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
walter g wrote: |
Nice lens. Not one you will likely find cheap. When they are listed, you can expect the price in the $300 + USD range. I believe the leica mount ones sell higher. but I can't remember the last one I saw. |
That's a pretty good price. I guess price tag is always difficult. It's all about supply and demand _________________ Lars | Manuellfokus.no |
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walter g
Joined: 20 Feb 2010 Posts: 2463 Location: NC, USA
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Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 5:00 am Post subject: |
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walter g wrote:
Nordentro wrote: |
walter g wrote: |
Nice lens. Not one you will likely find cheap. When they are listed, you can expect the price in the $300 + USD range. I believe the leica mount ones sell higher. but I can't remember the last one I saw. |
That's a pretty good price. I guess price tag is always difficult. It's all about supply and demand |
Your right. You mostly see these sold at camera stores, not private buyers. So setting an actual price on these lenses is hard. _________________
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Panasonic G5,Nikon J1,Pentax Q10,Sony Nex 6
Minolta MC W SI 2.5/28, MD 2.8/28, MC W SG 3.5/28, MC Celtic 3.5/28, MC W HG 2.8/35, MD Celtic 2.8/35, QE 4/35, Rokkor X 2/45, MC Rokkor X PG 1.4/50, MC Rokkor X PG 1.7/50, MD Rokkor X 1.7/50, MD 2/50, MC Rokkor PF 1.7/55, MC Rokkor PF 1.9/55, Auto Tele Rokkor PG 2.8/135, MC Tele Rokkor QD 3.5/135, TC 4/135, MC Celtic 4/200, MC Tele Rokkor PE 4.5/200
MD 28-70 f3.5-4.8, MD Macro 35-70 f3.5, Md 70-210 f4, MD Rokkor X 75-200 f4.5, MD 100-200 f5.6
Nikon Nikkor 4/20, O Auto 2/35, S Auto 1.4/50..... Miranda Auto 2.8/28, Auto 2.8/35, Auto 1.4/50, Auto EC 1.4/50, Auto 1.8/50, Auto EC 1.8/50,Auto 1.9/50, Auto 3.5/135
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Nordentro
Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 4713 Location: Lillehammer, Norway
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Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 10:41 am Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
Samples and mounted
Iso 200
_________________ Lars | Manuellfokus.no |
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Olivier
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Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
WOW !
This is a nice portrait shooter.
I'm quite impressed with the results. _________________ Olivier - Moderator
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indianadinos
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Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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indianadinos wrote:
Olivier wrote: |
WOW !
This is a nice portrait shooter.
I'm quite impressed with the results. |
+1 _________________ Please visit my blogs Shooting with a Pentax K10D / FF Visions
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Nordentro
Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 4713 Location: Lillehammer, Norway
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Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
Thx, guys
I am pleased with the results of this old timer but I think the pictures have some lack of sharpness/ contrast. All pictures where shoot wide open on a cloudy day at Iso 200. I guess it's better stopped down. _________________ Lars | Manuellfokus.no |
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fatdeeman
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Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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fatdeeman wrote:
I want one! It looks great, the fact it takes decent photos is a bonus! _________________ - Dave
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DSLR: Canon EOS 60D, Samsung GX-1S (Pentax *ist DS2)
Mirrorless: Panasonic DMC-G1, Sony NEX-5N
Compact: Canon PowerShot G3
Lenses:
Wide: Tokina RMC 28mm F/2.8, Tamron Adaptall 2 28mm F/2.5, Sun Optical 28mm F/2.5, Super paragon 28mm F/2.8, Sigma filtermatic 24mm F/2.8, Fujinon 35mm F/2.8, Sun Optical 35mm F/2.8
Standard: Industar 50-2, Helios 44-2, Helios 44M, Helios 44M-3, Pentax-M 50mm F/1.4, Pentax-M 50mm F/1.7, Pentax-M 50mm F/2, Ricoh 50mm F/1.7, Chinon 50mm F/1.7
Tele: Pentacon 135mm F/2.8, Pentacon 200mm F/3.5, Optomax 200mm f/3.5, Sun Optical 135mm F/3.5, Soligor 350mm F/5.6
Zoom: Tokina 28-70mm f/3.5-4.5 SZ-X270 SD, Sigma Zoom Pi 35-200mm F4-5.6, Sun Optical 28-80mm F/3.5-4.5, Sunagor 80-205mm F/3.8, Tokina RMC 80-200mm F/4, Vivitar 70-150mm F/3.8, Tamron 95-205mm F/6.3, Tamron Adaptall 28-200mm F/3.8-5.6 LD Aspherical, Tokina RMC 70-210mm F/3.5
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Nordentro
Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 4713 Location: Lillehammer, Norway
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Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
I can confirm (after this five year old thread) that this Soligor is Tanaka made. It stroke my mind a few months ago when I started to collect Tanaka LTM lenses that this old Soligor with "T suffix" may have been made by Tanaka. I got a Tanaka 135mm f/3.5 at my door this evening and there is no doubt anymore, the Soligor IS a Tanaka _________________ Lars | Manuellfokus.no |
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