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Arkku
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 1416 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:51 pm Post subject: Meyer-Optik to re-release Trioplan 100mm f/2.8 |
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Arkku wrote:
Yes, quite a WTF, but if I understand this correctly, Meyer-Optik will re-release the Trioplan 100mm f/2.8:
http://www.meyer-optik-goerlitz.de/de/trioplan-f28-100-mm/
(Google translate to English) |
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Marek
Joined: 13 Apr 2014 Posts: 903 Location: In the heart of Europe
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Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2015 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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Marek wrote:
Been here posted already a couple of days/weeks ago
Anyway, an experienced friend of mine believes it will neither affect old lens value (prices) nor they achieve the same optic quality and style of drawing
Also it will be probably expensive, yet interesting to watch what will happen _________________ Angry young man !
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16497 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 12:38 am Post subject: Re: Meyer-Optik to re-release Trioplan 100mm f/2.8 |
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kds315* wrote:
I was expecting that you happen from that company and seeing how much demand for that special bokeh is in the market. _________________ Klaus - Admin
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my_photography
Joined: 03 Nov 2008 Posts: 2772 Location: Pearl of the Orient
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Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 4:16 am Post subject: |
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my_photography wrote:
Didn't realise the company still exist. Is it the same old company or is this a new company that bought over the old and thus having the right to use the name? _________________
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Arkku
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 1416 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 6:02 am Post subject: |
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Arkku wrote:
Marek wrote: |
Been here posted already a couple of days/weeks ago
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Sorry about the re-post, I tried searching for it before posting but did not find it, but now I see it's posted in a more general Meyer-Optik resurrection thread. |
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Arkku
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 1416 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 6:11 am Post subject: |
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Arkku wrote:
Marek wrote: |
Anyway, an experienced friend of mine believes it will neither affect old lens value (prices) nor they achieve the same optic quality and style of drawing |
If it doesn't achieve the same character, then I'd say they've failed completely in their own stated goal. But if we assume that it will have the same character, then I guess the price of the lens will determine effect on the vintage Trioplans. At least the more expensive vintage lenses will probably not fetch the same price anymore as those with money to spend can rather get the new one than risk getting a defective one from eBay.
Oh well, fortunately I managed to get the old Trioplan when it was still well under €100… |
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BurstMox
Joined: 04 Dec 2011 Posts: 1998 Location: France
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Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 8:21 am Post subject: |
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BurstMox wrote:
Arkku wrote: |
Marek wrote: |
Anyway, an experienced friend of mine believes it will neither affect old lens value (prices) nor they achieve the same optic quality and style of drawing |
If it doesn't achieve the same character, then I'd say they've failed completely in their own stated goal. But if we assume that it will have the same character, then I guess the price of the lens will determine effect on the vintage Trioplans. At least the more expensive vintage lenses will probably not fetch the same price anymore as those with money to spend can rather get the new one than risk getting a defective one from eBay.
Oh well, fortunately I managed to get the old Trioplan when it was still well under €100… |
This rule didn't affect Helios-40. Since the "new" Helios-40, price of the old ones didn't decreased, even if now, old and new ones are at the same price.
So I believe it will be the same with Trioplan. _________________ Pierre
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Marek
Joined: 13 Apr 2014 Posts: 903 Location: In the heart of Europe
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Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 11:48 am Post subject: |
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Marek wrote:
Difference beteween supply and demand of Trioplan 100 (as well as a certain aura) is so high that I actually believe this watcky guy catching falling tree has bigger chances than people believing in significant price drop
No matter if new-age Triopan is good, bad, oldschool, modern, expensive or cheap etc. (as it certainly won't be cheap) _________________ Angry young man !
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ManualFocus-G
Joined: 29 Dec 2008 Posts: 6624 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 12:10 pm Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
Glad I sold mine then Got £310.00 for it. Priced right, and made available, a new batch of lenses should reduce the cost of those on the 2nd hand market. _________________ Graham - Moderator
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
The popularity of this lens continues to elude me. I can remember seeing only one picture with this 'bubble bokeh' that I thought was good.
To be honest, I'd rather see them put the Trioplan's sucessor the Pentacon 2.8/100 back into production, it was a far better lens and with modern coatings would be well worth having. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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Marek
Joined: 13 Apr 2014 Posts: 903 Location: In the heart of Europe
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Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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Marek wrote:
iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
The popularity of this lens continues to elude me. I can remember seeing only one picture with this 'bubble bokeh' that I thought was good.
To be honest, I'd rather see them put the Trioplan's sucessor the Pentacon 2.8/100 back into production, it was a far better lens and with modern coatings would be well worth having. |
The beauty obviously lies in the eye of the beholder. As for me, Pentacons belongs right into rubbish can Of course I used amplification but I mean different appetites are absolutely fine. The beauty also lies in differences and different preferences of people.
What I certainly do not find rational is to look for bubbles only through having Trioplan (or Primoplan) as I am discovering other and other (not only) Meyer lenses behaving very same way, often being a total cheapos just because nobody knows it. That if find irrational and therefore a bit dumb and also money-wasting. I also value some other Meyer lenses' bokeh higher. Thus, from this point of view, I totally agree with you.
Anyway, is "must-having" Biotar 75 any more rational than Trioplan 100? Probably the same case. I mean Trioplan is far from being alone in this God-like karma around a lens. _________________ Angry young man !
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ManualFocus-G
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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2015 12:21 am Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
Actually I really like the Pentacon 100mm I would prefer a preset Meyer version though, obvs! _________________ Graham - Moderator
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edri
Joined: 26 Oct 2014 Posts: 315 Location: walking in the air
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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2015 11:10 am Post subject: |
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edri wrote:
The current Meyer Gorlitz has nothing to do with the old manufacturer of lenses.
Seeing lens prices which they were presented as new lenses (actually Helios and Mitakon lenses), the new Trioplan will likely be at a very high price. I do not think it will affect prices of the old true Trioplan. |
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edri
Joined: 26 Oct 2014 Posts: 315 Location: walking in the air
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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2015 11:14 am Post subject: |
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edri wrote:
Marek wrote: |
... as I am discovering other and other (not only) Meyer lenses behaving very same way, often being a total cheapos just because nobody knows it. .... |
Some cheapos (not Meyer ) examples ? We keep secret |
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ManualFocus-G
Joined: 29 Dec 2008 Posts: 6624 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2015 11:49 am Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
edri wrote: |
Marek wrote: |
... as I am discovering other and other (not only) Meyer lenses behaving very same way, often being a total cheapos just because nobody knows it. .... |
Some cheapos (not Meyer ) examples ? We keep secret |
Try a Domiplan _________________ Graham - Moderator
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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7547 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2015 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
ManualFocus-G wrote: |
edri wrote: |
Marek wrote: |
... as I am discovering other and other (not only) Meyer lenses behaving very same way, often being a total cheapos just because nobody knows it. .... |
Some cheapos (not Meyer ) examples ? We keep secret |
Try a Domiplan |
Or an Oreston with a carefully selected 2x tele-converter. _________________ https://lensfever.com/
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edri
Joined: 26 Oct 2014 Posts: 315 Location: walking in the air
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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2015 12:25 pm Post subject: |
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edri wrote:
Oreston and Domiplan not count, they are Meyer so I will not keep this secret.
Secret not Meyer alternatives |
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ManualFocus-G
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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2015 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
Steinheil Culminar 85/2.8 VL
http://forum.mflenses.com/bokeh-rings-t69772.html _________________ Graham - Moderator
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edri
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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2015 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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edri wrote:
250euro for Culminar, it is not cheap.
But if the new Trioplan would be at that price it would be cheaper. |
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2015 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Culminar, Trioplan, simple triplets.
There are vast numbers of dirt cheap 2.8/85 triplet projection lenses out there.
Seeing as people just want trioplans to shoot wide open looking for silly bubble nonsense....
Why not buy a projector lens and save a small fortune? _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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Attila
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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2015 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Because result is not same Ian, Trioplan 100 in proper light and hands perform different than other triplets. _________________ -------------------------------
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