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koji
Joined: 21 Jul 2008 Posts: 2106 Location: Hiroshima, Japan
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Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 5:54 pm Post subject: How to use enlarging lens with NEX cameras |
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koji wrote:
I found Minolta portable bellows at eBay, so got it and change its mount to E-mount as you see.
The photo shows the lens' infinity position, but you can extend this bellows much longer,
so that you can focus to 0.33m with this E.ROKKOR 75mmF4.5. You can use any enlarging
lens over 70mm FL without any trouble.
This portable bellows is well made, the only problem might be this; you have to extend or shrink the bellows
by your hand to focus the lens. That round nob is to secure the bellows position not for focusing.
It is the ultimate manual focus system.
A quick example (@f5.6):
A little more examples are here > http://www.pbase.com/kkawakami/rokkor_e_75mm_f45_enlarge _________________ Our Home Page has 18,200 photos in 575 directories today.
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Jesito
Joined: 24 Aug 2007 Posts: 5745 Location: Olivella, Catalonia, (Spain)
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Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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Jesito wrote:
Wow, nice results.
I'm also experimenting with enlarger lenses, I use an AutoBellows from Pentax (M42) and a set of adapters I'm building to match the M42 to the 36, 32.5 and 25mm screws of the different enlarger lenses.
Up to now, I've been able of testing lenses from 90mm upwards, the 50mm one I got cannot reach infinity with my bellows. Yours seem to be more compact...
http://forum.mflenses.com/rodenstock-omegaron-90mm-f4-5-enlarger-lens-t47582.html
Being M42, I can put them into any cam. The pictures in the thread above were the first tests with an old Pentacon bellows.
Regards.
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Thanks for the idea. I also have some enlarger lenses here. _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57840 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 12:43 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
many thanks to sharing it! Excellent idea! _________________ -------------------------------
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Arkku
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 1416 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 1:34 am Post subject: |
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Arkku wrote:
I'm using M42 bellows with an M39 to M42 adapter. I find it's actually possible to reach infinity focus with enlarger lenses 90mm or longer this way, does not even need to be a mirrorless camera but any that can take M42 lenses with infinity focus. Of course the lenses are more convenient for macro use. |
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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7547 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 3:33 am Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
I use a focusing adapter which works on all M42 lenses. It works on some 50 mm and longer focal length enlargers which adapted to M42. _________________ https://lensfever.com/
https://www.instagram.com/_lens_fever/
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Jesito
Joined: 24 Aug 2007 Posts: 5745 Location: Olivella, Catalonia, (Spain)
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Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 11:30 am Post subject: |
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Jesito wrote:
calvin83 wrote: |
I use a focusing adapter which works on all M42 lenses. It works on some 50 mm and longer focal length enlargers which adapted to M42. |
Nice to know. Could you post some more details?. I'm stuck on 90mm up, shorter lenses don't allow for infinity focusing in my setup...
Regards.
Jes. _________________ Jesito, Moderator
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Zooms Sigma 70-300, Tamron 35-135 and 70-210 short, 70-210 long, 28-70 CF Macro, 35-70, 35-80, Vivitar 70-210 KA, Tamron 70-250.
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DSLR SIGMA SD9 & SD14, EOS 5D, Sony A700 and NEXF3, Oly E-330, E-400, E-450, E-1
TLR/6x6/645 YashicaMat, Petri 6x45, Nettar, Franka Solida, Brilliant
SLR Minolta X300, Fuji STX II, Praktica VLC3, Pentax P30t, EXA500, EXA 1A, Spotmatic(2), Chinon CM-4S, Ricoh, Contax, Konica TC-X , Minolta 5000, 7000i, 3Sxi, EOS 500 and CX
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pich900
Joined: 10 Jun 2007 Posts: 1745 Location: The Netherlands/Zwolle
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Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 11:41 am Post subject: |
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pich900 wrote:
Jesito wrote: |
calvin83 wrote: |
I use a focusing adapter which works on all M42 lenses. It works on some 50 mm and longer focal length enlargers which adapted to M42. |
Nice to know. Could you post some more details?. I'm stuck on 90mm up, shorter lenses don't allow for infinity focusing in my setup...
Regards.
Jes. |
+1, I'm also interesting to see some details/images
This bellow looks nice, the only problem is that :"This portable bellows is well made, the only problem might be this; you have to extend or shrink the bellows by your hand to focus the lens." ..... _________________ All my lenses are for sale, nikkor, Angenieux, Zeiss etc.....
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IAZA
Joined: 16 Apr 2010 Posts: 2587 Location: Indonesia
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Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 11:55 am Post subject: |
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IAZA wrote:
That bellow is quiet pricy. I cannot afford that at the moment.
Great result, I think it's worth _________________ nex5, Olympus EPM1, yashica half 14, Canon eos 650 want to see samples of mine? please click My lenses
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koji
Joined: 21 Jul 2008 Posts: 2106 Location: Hiroshima, Japan
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Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 12:58 pm Post subject: |
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koji wrote:
A few more photos:
The entire setting
The new mount (E-mount already installed, I modified Hawks factory m4/3->E mount adapter.)
The original Minolta SR-mount part (you can make any mount to this shape for your fav)
I use M42->SR mount adapter now.
The side view
I just mounted Flektogon 35mm F2.4
African violet by Flektogon 35mm @ f11 (without extending the bellows)
For macro shooting, you can move the whole system (ie. camera + tripod + possibly macro rail)
so you do not have to focus by extending the bellows much. But for general shootings,
the problem of focusing occurs. If you use a tripod, it isn't too difficult but for shooting a portraiture
it becomes a bit difficult to focus, since the subject and you move constantly.
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To DIY people: You find an appropriate mount base for camera system first,
then trim it down to fit to the bellows base. You should find the mount at least
1mm thick one since you have to counter-sink screw heads. If you use flat-head
screws you can go with thinner base mount I think. Otherwise the process is simple to do. _________________ Our Home Page has 18,200 photos in 575 directories today.
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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7547 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:41 pm Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
A photo of my 5N with the focusing adapter and a 24mm lens. (I use my photo to take the photo so the first one is blurred)
The helicoid is at its minimum length. It will acts as an M42 to NEX adapter.
If the MFD of the lens is not short enough, we can tune the helicoid....
The helicoid is available in PK mount too. _________________ https://lensfever.com/
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koji
Joined: 21 Jul 2008 Posts: 2106 Location: Hiroshima, Japan
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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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koji wrote:
Hi Calvin, where did you find it (M42->NEX with a helicoid)?
I was looking for this kind of adapter for other mount such as C/Y. _________________ Our Home Page has 18,200 photos in 575 directories today.
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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7547 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
koji wrote: |
Hi Calvin, where did you find it (M42->NEX with a helicoid)?
I was looking for this kind of adapter for other mount such as C/Y. |
I bought it from China.
If you need a C/Y mount helicoid, you may modify a Vivitar 2x Macro Focusing Tele-Converter in C/Y mount. _________________ https://lensfever.com/
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Jesito
Joined: 24 Aug 2007 Posts: 5745 Location: Olivella, Catalonia, (Spain)
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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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Jesito wrote:
calvin83 wrote: |
koji wrote: |
Hi Calvin, where did you find it (M42->NEX with a helicoid)?
I was looking for this kind of adapter for other mount such as C/Y. |
I bought it from China.
If you need a C/Y mount helicoid, you may modify a Vivitar 2x Macro Focusing Tele-Converter in C/Y mount. |
Thanks for the clue, Calvin, but how do you that?.
To me the Teleconverters are fixed lenses sets to multiply by two the focal lens of the lens attached, so I don't see how to convert it in an Helicoid.
Thanks in advance.
Jes. _________________ Jesito, Moderator
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Zooms Sigma 70-300, Tamron 35-135 and 70-210 short, 70-210 long, 28-70 CF Macro, 35-70, 35-80, Vivitar 70-210 KA, Tamron 70-250.
Fixed Industar-50, , Tamron 24mm, Tamron 135mm, Sands Hunter 135mm, Pancolar 50mm, Volna-3, many Exakta lenses
DSLR SIGMA SD9 & SD14, EOS 5D, Sony A700 and NEXF3, Oly E-330, E-400, E-450, E-1
TLR/6x6/645 YashicaMat, Petri 6x45, Nettar, Franka Solida, Brilliant
SLR Minolta X300, Fuji STX II, Praktica VLC3, Pentax P30t, EXA500, EXA 1A, Spotmatic(2), Chinon CM-4S, Ricoh, Contax, Konica TC-X , Minolta 5000, 7000i, 3Sxi, EOS 500 and CX
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kuuan
Joined: 14 Jan 2008 Posts: 4572 Location: right now: Austria
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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:49 am Post subject: |
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kuuan wrote:
calvin83 wrote: |
A photo of my 5N with the focusing adapter and a 24mm lens. (I use my photo to take the photo so the first one is blurred)
The helicoid is at its minimum length. It will acts as an M42 to NEX adapter.
If the MFD of the lens is not short enough, we can tune the helicoid....
The helicoid is available in PK mount too. |
looks great!
are these also available on the internet? I could not find them.. _________________ my photos on flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/kuuan/collections |
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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7547 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:38 am Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
Jesito wrote: |
Thanks for the clue, Calvin, but how do you that?.
To me the Teleconverters are fixed lenses sets to multiply by two the focal lens of the lens attached, so I don't see how to convert it in an Helicoid.
Thanks in advance.
Jes. |
This Teleconverters has a build in helicoid. You have to remove the lens elements and the rear mount in the adapter, you can put any mount you like. Please refer to this thread: http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic,p,151337.html .
kuuan wrote: |
looks great!
are these also available on the internet? I could not find them.. |
Check this old thread in MFL club and look for "M42 to Sony NEX E mount helicoid adaptor" .
http://forum.mflenses.com/groupbuy-on-helicoid-and-adaptersend-27nov-t44520.html _________________ https://lensfever.com/
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Jesito
Joined: 24 Aug 2007 Posts: 5745 Location: Olivella, Catalonia, (Spain)
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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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Jesito wrote:
Again, thanks a lot Calvin!.
Very good information there
Regards.
Jes. _________________ Jesito, Moderator
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Zooms Sigma 70-300, Tamron 35-135 and 70-210 short, 70-210 long, 28-70 CF Macro, 35-70, 35-80, Vivitar 70-210 KA, Tamron 70-250.
Fixed Industar-50, , Tamron 24mm, Tamron 135mm, Sands Hunter 135mm, Pancolar 50mm, Volna-3, many Exakta lenses
DSLR SIGMA SD9 & SD14, EOS 5D, Sony A700 and NEXF3, Oly E-330, E-400, E-450, E-1
TLR/6x6/645 YashicaMat, Petri 6x45, Nettar, Franka Solida, Brilliant
SLR Minolta X300, Fuji STX II, Praktica VLC3, Pentax P30t, EXA500, EXA 1A, Spotmatic(2), Chinon CM-4S, Ricoh, Contax, Konica TC-X , Minolta 5000, 7000i, 3Sxi, EOS 500 and CX
Rangefinders Chinon 35EE, Konica C35 auto, Canonet 28, Yashica Lynx, FED-2, Yashica electro 35, Argus C3 & C4, Regula Cita III, Voigtlander Vitoret (many), Welta Welti-I, Kodak Signette 35, Zorki-4, Bessa-R & L, Minolta Weathermatic, olympus XA2
Compact Film Konica C35V, Voigtlander Vitorets, Canon Prima Super 105, Olympus XA2 and XA3
Compact Digital Olympus C-5050, Aiptek Slim 3000, Canon Powershot A540, Nikon 5200, SIGMA DP1s, Polaroid X530, IXUS55, Kodak 6490, Powershot G9 and G10
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Lightshow
Joined: 04 Nov 2011 Posts: 3669 Location: Calgary
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Posted: Sun May 27, 2012 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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Lightshow wrote:
Here's the solution I came up with over winter:
It's a Novoflex, and I converted it to M-mount for simplicity of mounting to my NEX. _________________ A Manual Focus Junky...
One photographers junk lens is an artists favorite tool.
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philslizzy
Joined: 07 Aug 2012 Posts: 4747 Location: Cheshire, England
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Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 12:27 am Post subject: |
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philslizzy wrote:
Guess what I did today...Parallel thinking. I did exactly the same. It fits better on the A6000 than the NEX
A lovely piece of kit
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