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Marek
Joined: 13 Apr 2014 Posts: 903 Location: In the heart of Europe
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Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 8:31 pm Post subject: Trioplan 50mm and some of its friends |
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Marek wrote:
I won quite easily a dusty lot of some German, indicating the items didn't have too lucky life in the past. Price €21.50
So I polished major items a bit, having sort of a good feeling of saving or helping those pretty things to survive. (I love cleaning.)
As I've seen Trioplan 50mm for the first time in my life, I naturally found it so lovely to keep the item eventually. I was angry at first, realizing it is damn Altix mount, but now I see it differently. This might actually help me to understand and face mounting Altix on EOS that was on my missing knowhow todo list for a long time.
The obscure heavy Tele-Tessar 13,5cm is available for any collector interested in, but no wonder it has a really nice piece of fungus in MC.
Quite surprisingly, Trioplan might be fungus-free but I don't value its optics high either, having probably the worst front element of all of my lens so far because of adherent dust or what the hell living inside. (The whole lot was even dustier than my December's Primotar.)
Marek _________________ Angry young man !
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57849 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Tessar is very early coated lens, hard to find any with T from same years. Congrats to your deal! _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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Marek
Joined: 13 Apr 2014 Posts: 903 Location: In the heart of Europe
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Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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Marek wrote:
Thank you, apart from a stiff focal ring and funguses the optics is surprisingly fine, almost without scratches, just like some of my optically best lenses. More or less unblemished after polishing which was pretty surprising; good old heavy lens! I'd like to barter it to someone who appreciates and knows how to apply this kind of old lens once.
I had quite a piece of luck on both optics and surface condition so far, the Trioplan optics is something I'm not used to, although it will very likely shoot without serious problems. Just not seller's item any more _________________ Angry young man !
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Marek
Joined: 13 Apr 2014 Posts: 903 Location: In the heart of Europe
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Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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Marek wrote:
So I just homemade my very first Altix to EOS Marek version adapter with a big rasper borrowed from a local pub with no need of glue or similar.
However, I still have one question: are there any possible hidden problems I should know about using Altix mount lens on EOS with improved M42 adapter? Or is it basically safe to buy endless number of Altix mount lens?
Only thing that crossed my mind is the range between mirror and lens itself might be like 1-5 mm larger than usual. _________________ Angry young man !
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Pancolart
Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 3693 Location: Slovenia, EU
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Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
Would you please share your cleaning / polishing procedure, they look awesome now. _________________ ---------------------------------
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chris_zeel
Joined: 21 Jan 2013 Posts: 136 Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands
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Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 2:02 pm Post subject: |
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chris_zeel wrote:
Pancolart wrote: |
Would you please share your cleaning / polishing procedure, they look awesome now. |
I would like to know as well! _________________ DSLR: Canon 6D, Canon 400D
SLR: Praktica MTL5, Topcon RE-2, Topcon RE Super, Nikon EM, Chinon CE-3 Memotron, Pentacon F, Zenit 12-XP
Rangefinder: Zorki 4K, Ricoh 500G, Olympus 35 SP, Neoca 2S
Folder: Afga Isolette-I
Compact: Olympus mju-I
AF: Tamron 28-75 f/2.8 XR Di LD
Exakta: Meyer-Optik Trioplan 50/2.9, Primagon 35/4.5
M42: Sigma Mini Wide 28/2.8, Auto Chinon 28/2.8, Meyer-Optik Lydith 30/3.5, Pentacon Electric 29/2.8, Mir 1b 37/2.8, Super-Takumar 50/1.4, Meyer-Optik Oreston 50 f/1.8, Auto Yashinon 50/2, CZJ Tessar T 50/2.8, E. Ludwig Meritar 50/2.9, Meyer-Optik Primotar E 50/3.5, Industar 50-2 50/3.5, SMC Takumar 55/2, CZJ Biotar 58/2, Helios 44 58 f/2, Jupiter-9 85 f/2, Meyer-Optik 85/3.5, Super-Takumar 105/2.8, Accura Super Tc 135/2.8, Pentacon Zebra 135/2.8, Jupiter-11 135 f/4, Chinon MC Auto 200/3.5, Accura Supertel Tc 200/4.5, Soligor C/D Macro+Zoom 80-200/4.5
F-mount: Nikon Series E 28/2.8, 50/1.8, 100/2.8, Nikkor-S 35/2.8, Nikkor-H.C 50/2, Nikkor-H 85/1.8
Topcon: RE Auto Topcor 35/2.8, RE. Auto Topcor 58/1.8, RE. Auto Topcor 135/3.5
OM: Zuiko Auto-S 50/1. |
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Marek
Joined: 13 Apr 2014 Posts: 903 Location: In the heart of Europe
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Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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Marek wrote:
I used Autosol paste as has been recommended to me here, not an aluminium type but metal one. I cleaned it roughly and with more strength used on the most of the surface at first to get rid of the major "invisible dirt" (the cloth soon to be black). Then I cleaned carefully the particular rings, especially the worst accessible ones to get the final shine. I also tried to avoid much finger contact for a couple of hours, as the surface was still somehow "wet" (very pleasant to touch, actually) and reacting, but ain't sure it was really necessary.
I found some of lenses to react on polishing better than others, see the great tone of Triotar standing behind Trioplan 100. (Only five or six lenses in the middle was already polished when taking picture.)
Regarding optics, I used pretty standard equipment and not much successfully, as I didn't find how to get focal ring to work properly yet again.
As for Altix to EOS homemade reduction, I used a big stupid borrowed rasper, making simple M42 adapter just enough wide to cram the lens in tightly enough not to loose lens somewhere in the grass When applying rasper, the edges of adapter also have to be balanced enough to put the lens in narrowly. Didn't test the whole thing outside yet since it's snowing and snowing, but I found my solution even more firm and fixed than standard M42.
(I already ordered some special raspers and polishing sandpapers at my stepfather, an experienced craftsman. Just to make it easier and better looking.) _________________ Angry young man !
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philslizzy
Joined: 07 Aug 2012 Posts: 4748 Location: Cheshire, England
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Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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philslizzy wrote:
read my 'Yet another Altix conversion' thread for the easy way.
Nice clean up job! _________________ Hero in the 'messin-with-cameras-for-the-hell-of-it department'. Official. |
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Lena
Joined: 24 Apr 2012 Posts: 495 Location: Pl
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Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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Lena wrote:
I have the same Trioplan in Altix mount and use it on my Nikon. I used one M42 to Nikon adapter for that purpose. It's not looking lovely, but it's working. Happy shooting, it is a nice little lens. _________________
C&C on my photos always welcome!
Nikon D300s, Canon 5D
Nikkor 24/2.8 Ai, 50/1.4 Ai, 105/2.5 Ai
Helios 44, 44-2, 44M-4, 81N, 77M-4, Jupiter 9, Zenitar 50/1.7
Vivitar Series 1 90/2.5 macro, Samyang 8/3.5, Olympus Zuiko 28/2.8
Meyer Optik Trioplan 50/2.9, 100/2.8, Pentacon 80/2.8 AV
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chris_zeel
Joined: 21 Jan 2013 Posts: 136 Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands
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Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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chris_zeel wrote:
Marek wrote: |
I used Autosol paste as has been recommended to me here, not an aluminium type but metal one. I cleaned it roughly and with more strength used on the most of the surface at first to get rid of the major "invisible dirt" (the cloth soon to be black). Then I cleaned carefully the particular rings, especially the worst accessible ones to get the final shine. I also tried to avoid much finger contact for a couple of hours, as the surface was still somehow "wet" (very pleasant to touch, actually) and reacting, but ain't sure it was really necessary.
I found some of lenses to react on polishing better than others, see the great tone of Triotar standing behind Trioplan 100. (Only five or six lenses in the middle was already polished when taking picture.)
Regarding optics, I used pretty standard equipment and not much successfully, as I didn't find how to get focal ring to work properly yet again.
As for Altix to EOS homemade reduction, I used a big stupid borrowed rasper, making simple M42 adapter just enough wide to cram the lens in tightly enough not to loose lens somewhere in the grass When applying rasper, the edges of adapter also have to be balanced enough to put the lens in narrowly. Didn't test the whole thing outside yet since it's snowing and snowing, but I found my solution even more firm and fixed than standard M42.
(I already ordered some special raspers and polishing sandpapers at my stepfather, an experienced craftsman. Just to make it easier and better looking.) |
Thanks for sharing your methods.
Interesting question, were those lenses shiny like that when they were initially produced? _________________ DSLR: Canon 6D, Canon 400D
SLR: Praktica MTL5, Topcon RE-2, Topcon RE Super, Nikon EM, Chinon CE-3 Memotron, Pentacon F, Zenit 12-XP
Rangefinder: Zorki 4K, Ricoh 500G, Olympus 35 SP, Neoca 2S
Folder: Afga Isolette-I
Compact: Olympus mju-I
AF: Tamron 28-75 f/2.8 XR Di LD
Exakta: Meyer-Optik Trioplan 50/2.9, Primagon 35/4.5
M42: Sigma Mini Wide 28/2.8, Auto Chinon 28/2.8, Meyer-Optik Lydith 30/3.5, Pentacon Electric 29/2.8, Mir 1b 37/2.8, Super-Takumar 50/1.4, Meyer-Optik Oreston 50 f/1.8, Auto Yashinon 50/2, CZJ Tessar T 50/2.8, E. Ludwig Meritar 50/2.9, Meyer-Optik Primotar E 50/3.5, Industar 50-2 50/3.5, SMC Takumar 55/2, CZJ Biotar 58/2, Helios 44 58 f/2, Jupiter-9 85 f/2, Meyer-Optik 85/3.5, Super-Takumar 105/2.8, Accura Super Tc 135/2.8, Pentacon Zebra 135/2.8, Jupiter-11 135 f/4, Chinon MC Auto 200/3.5, Accura Supertel Tc 200/4.5, Soligor C/D Macro+Zoom 80-200/4.5
F-mount: Nikon Series E 28/2.8, 50/1.8, 100/2.8, Nikkor-S 35/2.8, Nikkor-H.C 50/2, Nikkor-H 85/1.8
Topcon: RE Auto Topcor 35/2.8, RE. Auto Topcor 58/1.8, RE. Auto Topcor 135/3.5
OM: Zuiko Auto-S 50/1. |
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philslizzy
Joined: 07 Aug 2012 Posts: 4748 Location: Cheshire, England
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Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 11:32 pm Post subject: |
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philslizzy wrote:
chris_zeel wrote: |
Thanks for sharing your methods.
Interesting question, were those lenses shiny like that when they were initially produced? |
I bought a tube of Autosol on your recommendation £3.68 inc postage. Saves me getting the bus into town. _________________ Hero in the 'messin-with-cameras-for-the-hell-of-it department'. Official. |
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Pancolart
Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 3693 Location: Slovenia, EU
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
Thank you for sharing! No excuse anymore for not showing Meyers in its proper glory. _________________ ---------------------------------
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Marek
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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Marek wrote:
You're guys helping me to grow all the time, so I was happy to add my two cents _________________ Angry young man !
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