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Minolfan
Joined: 30 Dec 2008 Posts: 3436 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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Minolfan wrote:
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Not every one will appropriate a photo no single object in focus. Many people will lost their interest if they cannot find a focus point at first glance. |
There you find me!
I am not oriental, sorry.
Only a few of the samples in this thread are somewhat interesting for me by stucture and colors, most are not my taste, I must say. |
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JJB
Joined: 02 Oct 2014 Posts: 424 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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JJB wrote:
I also played with this technique and I think that in order for it to work, you have to be especially attentive to composition and the degree of OOF. My spouse hates anything remotely out of focus; my daughter thought the experiment was interesting.
For what it's worth, Woodrim, I liked your photo. It feels like a reflection, but above the water.
By way of example, I have some examples are some photos I took of some trees decorated for the holiday in our local park. In the first series, I liked the degree of OOF and the less busy composition of the first one the best. The fourth has a focal point by way of comparison. All taken with a Helios 44/4, most wide open, none stopped down more than f4.
For the next two, I found the first one uninteresting and vastly preferred the second with a shallow DOF and a single focal point.
Finally, these of a floral bouquet. The first was too OOF to hold my interest. The second I found pleasing with the suggestion of pattern and the range of colors.
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JohnBar
Joined: 21 Jun 2012 Posts: 581 Location: Liverpool
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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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JohnBar wrote:
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6006 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
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Thanks, Mo and bernhardas. While I love all different kinds of bokeh, I'm still not sure of myself with this form of art. My wife hated it, and then I posted it on a facebook photography forum and got killed. Not a single person there liked it - or they were afraid to say so. There was a long list of deserters. That's okay because it told me what I was wondering. It also opened up good conversation. If this can be considered art, then it is appreciated by select few. I do appreciate some of it, but have not yet settled on understanding where the line is between out-of-focus and bokeh art. In that photography forum I then posted the below image which received much the opposite reaction. All it took was a very small area to the far left that was in focus to change their perceptions. I find that interesting because while their eye may travel there first, to find the point of focus, they then look mostly at the rest of the photo for appreciation. I suspect this means that we have become programmed in photography to always expect that point of focus and have a hard time coping when it isn't there.
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Hmmm, yes you are probably right about people's perceptions of images and what they have come to expect from an image - hence looking for something for the eye to latch onto.
However, I think that there is more to it than simply a point of sharpness.
This image of yours is splendid from a number of viewpoints, and viewers will find some comfort in things other than sharpness.
This has a uniformity of tone and it uses line, repetition and pattern to excellent effect. These elements of your composition can - and do - add to the art here.
I reallllyyyyy like this image.
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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7547 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 3:55 am Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
Sankyo Kohki Komura 105mm F2. Imagination is needed!
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bernhardas
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Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 3:56 am Post subject: |
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bernhardas wrote:
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Glad Parau
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Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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Glad Parau wrote:
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Mark
Joined: 01 Dec 2012 Posts: 251 Location: Budapest, Hungary
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Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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Mark wrote:
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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8982 Location: Australia
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Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
@Calvin, yours reminds me of one of those Japanese or Chinese paintings, with the characters written on the painting as well as the picture.
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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7547 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 5:12 am Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
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@Calvin, yours reminds me of one of those Japanese or Chinese paintings, with the characters written on the painting as well as the picture. |
I am trying to apply the concepts from I learned in the Oriental style to this photo. It is nice to hear you can find the elements in Oriental paintings in the photo. _________________ https://lensfever.com/
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bernhardas
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 5:58 am Post subject: |
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bernhardas wrote:
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bernhardas
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 6:03 am Post subject: |
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bernhardas wrote:
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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7547 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 6:08 am Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
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This one will be a good example of pictorialist-style photo. _________________ https://lensfever.com/
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bernhardas
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 7:49 am Post subject: |
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bernhardas wrote:
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Tedat
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 8:41 am Post subject: |
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Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2014 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
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kenetik
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Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2014 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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kenetik wrote:
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Really interesting shape. I like the colors too. _________________ ________________________________________________________
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bernhardas
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bernhardas wrote:
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jbrooksII
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Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 12:35 pm Post subject: |
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jbrooksII wrote:
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Mir
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My 2 cents
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bernhardas
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Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 5:30 pm Post subject: |
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bernhardas wrote:
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woodrim
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Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 1:52 am Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
Still trying...
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TAo2
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Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 2:45 am Post subject: |
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TAo2 wrote:
Traffic lights...but not as we know 'em Jim...
Below...
Not 100% bokeh, but pretty close. Tried a blur but it spoiled the background.
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