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memetph
Joined: 01 Dec 2013 Posts: 942 Location: Poland
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 3:51 pm Post subject: 28mm f3.5 on Sony A7 |
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memetph wrote:
28mms are cheap and easy to find WA ,especially the 3.5. They are good landscape lenses.
Here is a comparison at 5.6 with a Sony A7
Kit Zoom Sony 28/70, MD X Rokkor, MC Rokkor SG, Pentax SMC K, SMC Takumar M42.
then cropped
The Pentax K is for me the winner and the MD X Rokkor is good too. |
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Rick1779
Joined: 17 May 2013 Posts: 1207 Location: Italy
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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Rick1779 wrote:
yep, seems so, and the K 28/3.5 is best know for its performance _________________ TELLTALE
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luisalegria
Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 6627 Location: San Francisco, USA
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
Thanks you, good comparison.
I am quite surprised by the rather poor performance of the Takumar in what should be close to the center. _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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memetph
Joined: 01 Dec 2013 Posts: 942 Location: Poland
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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memetph wrote:
I bought this Tak new in 1971. Perhaps it suffered during my different moves.
The crop is on the border . In the corners the Tak is still better than the MC SG .
I shall try to make another comparison from a shorter distance.
I got the K last week. I can only recommend this lens. |
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Pancolart
Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 3693 Location: Slovenia, EU
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Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 10:01 am Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
I cannot open big size photos on Serving.com. It would help to see them. Perhaps better to upload at MFlenses. _________________ ---------------------------------
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kuuan
Joined: 14 Jan 2008 Posts: 4573 Location: right now: Austria
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Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 10:43 am Post subject: |
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kuuan wrote:
luisalegria wrote: |
Thanks you, good comparison.
I am quite surprised by the rather poor performance of the Takumar in what should be close to the center. |
when I compared sharpness of a handful or two of 28mm lenses last year the Takumar didn't perform all that well neither, but the Pentax A 2.8/28 was great ( and the K lens was not included )
the Minolta MD X looks really good too
edit: the S-M-C Takumar 3.5/28 still is a fabulous lens though, have taken some of my better photos with it _________________ my photos on flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/kuuan/collections
Last edited by kuuan on Thu Nov 06, 2014 3:28 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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miran
Joined: 01 Aug 2012 Posts: 1364 Location: Slovenia
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Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 12:35 pm Post subject: |
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miran wrote:
The kit zoom is that bad? Or is it just focused badly? _________________ my flickr stream |
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memetph
Joined: 01 Dec 2013 Posts: 942 Location: Poland
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Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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memetph wrote:
miran wrote: |
The kit zoom is that bad? Or is it just focused badly? |
At 28mm it is ok in the center. The quality inceases with the focal length . It is considered as medium-medium+ for a kitzoom but 28mm is its weakness. The results at 28mm are not consistent with the focusing distance ( internal focusing,
It is not ridiculous when compared with the more expensive FE 24/70 Zeiss.
Frankly I don't use it because I prefer manual focusing ! It came with the camera.
Comparing a kitzoom with a prime is not very fair. |
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miran
Joined: 01 Aug 2012 Posts: 1364 Location: Slovenia
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Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 1:09 pm Post subject: |
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miran wrote:
Good to know so that when/if I buy an A7x or whatever, I'll take the body only and no kit zoom. With so bad quality it's not worth a single cent. _________________ my flickr stream |
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memetph
Joined: 01 Dec 2013 Posts: 942 Location: Poland
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Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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memetph wrote:
miran wrote: |
Good to know so that when/if I buy an A7x or whatever, I'll take the body only and no kit zoom. With so bad quality it's not worth a single cent. |
I would not go so far in my judgment and AF can be usefull in some occasions . I made some nice pictures with it. As a kit it is cheap.
I just bought the A7 to use 24x36 SLR prime lenses. Good standard and tele lenses are easy to find. WA are more problematic in my opinion especially out of the center.
In addiiton to my test, I found no CA on the SMC 28 K. The MD needed some correction in PP but it is easy. |
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memetph
Joined: 01 Dec 2013 Posts: 942 Location: Poland
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Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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memetph wrote:
Pancolart wrote: |
I cannot open big size photos on Serving.com. It would help to see them. Perhaps better to upload at MFlenses. |
How can I do ?
I am interested as the posting through servimg gives a really bad quality on the MF Lenses site.
Thanks |
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y
Joined: 11 Aug 2013 Posts: 304 Location: EU
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Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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y wrote:
luisalegria wrote: |
I am quite surprised by the rather poor performance of the Takumar in what should be close to the center. |
My copy of S-M-C Tak 28/3.5 was kinda similar. In addition, it featured really nasty CA even at f/8.0. |
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Nordentro
Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 4713 Location: Lillehammer, Norway
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Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 11:19 pm Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
I was a little supprised too, about the kitzoom! It was quite nice to see it compared to older lense and you should test it against other lenses and focal lengts too IMO _________________ Lars | Manuellfokus.no |
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peterqd
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 7448 Location: near High Wycombe, UK
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Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2014 12:13 am Post subject: |
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memetph wrote: |
Pancolart wrote: |
I cannot open big size photos on Serving.com. It would help to see them. Perhaps better to upload at MFlenses. |
How can I do ?
I am interested as the posting through servimg gives a really bad quality on the MF Lenses site.
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memetph
Joined: 01 Dec 2013 Posts: 942 Location: Poland
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Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2014 7:05 am Post subject: |
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memetph wrote:
Thank you it is very clear !
Nordentro, well , the comparison with standard lenses is also hard as those are usually good and fast. I shall try to post examples.
At 70 mm I can only compare it to a Canon FD 85 1.8 which is a really sharp lens. The competition is not fair.
This kit zoom is doing a good job for the price but it is like every kit zoom slow and a mix bag.
The question often discussed is if the Zeiss. 24/70 can justify its price. |
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kenetik
Joined: 02 Mar 2014 Posts: 524
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Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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kenetik wrote:
I have found the Olympus Zuiko 28/3.5 to be a nice sharp lens and good bargain as well. One of of forum members recently had some night pics of a rocket launching taken with the Olympus 28/2.8 and the Olympus 28/3.5, I am sorry I don't have the proper credit at the moment, but they were excellent shots.
Edit: It was Mike Deep, in digital gallery
http://forum.mflenses.com/two-zuiko-28s-and-a-falcon-9-rocket-t68272,highlight,%2Bzuiko+%2B28.html _________________ ________________________________________________________
I buy lots of lenses and sometimes I even use them... |
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memetph
Joined: 01 Dec 2013 Posts: 942 Location: Poland
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Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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memetph wrote:
Yesterday, I decided to try to make some portraits with a 28mm which is unusual for me.
After the above test , I chose the MD 28 3.5 the cheapest Rokkor 28mm you can buy. (49mm filter thread)
People are focused on the MCs (all metal construction) and on the fast versions.
No sharpening.
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memetph
Joined: 01 Dec 2013 Posts: 942 Location: Poland
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Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 9:34 am Post subject: |
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memetph wrote:
I had my new SMC K 28 f3.5 during a week end in Sevilla and could make some shots.
I discovered by chance the existence of this lens on this forum . I thought that K were S Tak with a bayonet mount. It was a mistake.
next one not sharp but I like it
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