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Orio
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Orio wrote:
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Thank you Orio! |
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Selenium_27
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 11:27 am Post subject: |
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Selenium_27 wrote:
I just got a contax III with a sonar on it and I’m quite puzzled..
According to the first post of this topic : the lens has been made between 1942 and 1945.
(Carl Zeiss Jena sonnar 50 1.5, red T, S/N : 2,857,916)
I could not get more precise description on the web (I guess every site has the same source or, worse, copy each on other..)
So I turned on the body. Making the assumption the body and the lens has not been unpaired, the year of production of the lens and of the body should be close.
Unfortunately the body (S/N : C10988) is supposed to be produced in 1936-7 according to cameraquest (http://www.cameraquest.com/zconrf2.htm )
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Lenses are removable, so there is no guarantee that when you buy a Contax RF with a lens on it, the two came together originally.
Considering the time passed, the fact that the camera and lens dates do not match is hardly anything to be surprised of. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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paulhofseth
Joined: 05 Mar 2011 Posts: 561 Location: Norway
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Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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paulhofseth wrote:
dekiller wrote: |
Why there is only 4-digit on Pancolar 1.8/80? |
An ancient issue: Not all relatively new pancolar 1,8\80 MC s have 4 digit nos. 10884839 is one example. And why uniteresting?(may24 2009 post) It works
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b3j4
Joined: 29 Nov 2012 Posts: 2 Location: Beijing
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 4:24 am Post subject: |
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b3j4 wrote:
hi everyone,
I've been learning a lot from this forum but didn't register until I read this post. Thanks to the earlier contributors to this thread!
I just got a CZJ Flektogon 2.4/35 with a 4-digit serial number of 6***, which I suppose it was produced in the late 80s' according to the origianl post.
But here is a weird thing: I found the following lens on the Taobao (Chinese version of ebay) with a 6-digit serial number "112592", but from the appearance of the lens one can easily tell it's definitely not from a time back to the 1910s'.
Here is the original link (yeah I know you guys probably don't read Chinese but just scroll down and look at the pics):
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.10.37.eTDhWq&id=21067792955&_u=t3ou2hsafda
Any thoughts on this? |
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b3j4
Joined: 29 Nov 2012 Posts: 2 Location: Beijing
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 4:32 am Post subject: |
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b3j4 wrote:
why doesn't the link included in the last reply show up? where is the picture? but everything was fine when I "preview" the reply? |
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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8982 Location: Australia
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 8:02 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
Hi,It is the forums anti spam feature...once you have made two posts all links images work fine. _________________ Moira, Moderator
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Pancolart
Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 3693 Location: Slovenia, EU
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Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 9:50 am Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
Orio wrote: |
Pancolart wrote: |
I have Sonnar MC electric 3.5/135mm with serial 2242 on label ring. Any idea why this low? |
Because it is one of the more recent lenses. More precisely, from December 4th, 1981 |
I have unused Flektogon #3024, strangely it's 2.8/35mm black version for Exakta. Was that some late or special batch?
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themoleman342
Joined: 21 Oct 2007 Posts: 2190 Location: East Coast (CT), U.S.A.
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Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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themoleman342 wrote:
Sorry if this has been asked before but are the serial numbers stamped on the metal lens barrels (not visible unless disassembled) supposed to correlate in any way to the nameplate serial? |
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Pancolart
Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 3693 Location: Slovenia, EU
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Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 8:24 am Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
themoleman342 wrote: |
Sorry if this has been asked before but are the serial numbers stamped on the metal lens barrels (not visible unless disassembled) supposed to correlate in any way to the nameplate serial? |
I have CZJ Sonnar 135mm in my mind and i think answer is yes. _________________ ---------------------------------
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themoleman342
Joined: 21 Oct 2007 Posts: 2190 Location: East Coast (CT), U.S.A.
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Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 3:08 pm Post subject: |
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themoleman342 wrote:
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I have CZJ Sonnar 135mm in my mind and i think answer is yes. |
Hmmm, OK. Well I have a Biometar P6, serial number 425xx. One of the inside elements was loose so I had to take it apart. Both the front and back blocks are marked with a four digit 28xx. Hopefully that doesn't mean they were swapped at one time? |
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Pancolart
Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 3693 Location: Slovenia, EU
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Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
Surely not. Just different numbering for both. But if your front and rear block would have different serial then that would be indication IMHO of swapping. _________________ ---------------------------------
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themoleman342
Joined: 21 Oct 2007 Posts: 2190 Location: East Coast (CT), U.S.A.
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Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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themoleman342 wrote:
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Surely not. Just different numbering for both. But if your front and rear block would have different serial then that would be indication IMHO of swapping. |
Fantastic! Thanks for the info and assurances. The two match so that's a good sign. I was a little concerned because it's actually a pretty uncommon Biometar and I had hoped the nameplate wasn't just switched out.
I read a big issue with the Rolleiflex 2.8A is mismatched front and back blocks. That's because the glass was sourced from pre-war production of the Ikoflex III. Rollei took the glass, coated it, and things got confused during reassembly. At least that's the story...Sorry for the divergence. That just reminded me and I thought it was interesting. |
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philslizzy
Joined: 07 Aug 2012 Posts: 4747 Location: Cheshire, England
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Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 2:32 pm Post subject: Re: Carl Zeiss Jena lenses Issue date by serial number |
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philslizzy wrote:
Attila wrote: |
137,418-200,520 1912
208,473-249,350 1913
249,886-282,739 1914
282,800-284,500 1915
285,200-288,100 1916
289,087-298,157 1917
298,215-322,748 1918
322,799-351,611 1919
375,194-419,823 1920
433,273-438,361 1921
422,899-498,006 1922
561,270-578,297 1923
578,297–631,501 1924
631,500-648,500 1925
666,790-703,198 1926
722,196-798,251 1927
903,100-908,150 1928
919,794-1,016,885 1929
922,488-1,239,697 1930
1,239,699-1,365,582 1931
1,364,483-1,389,279 1932
1,436,671-1,456,003 1933
1,500,474-1,590,000 1934
1,615,764-1,752,303 1935
1,674,882-1,942,806 1936
1,930,150-2,219,775 1937
2,267,991-2,527,984 1938
2,527,999-2,651,211 1939
2,652,000-c2,678,000 1940
2,678,326-2,790,346 1941
2,800,000- ? 1942
3,000,000-3,200,000: 1945-1949
3,200,000-3,470,000: 1949-1952
3,470,000-4,000,000: 1952-1955
4,000,000-5,000,000: 1955-1958
5,000,000-6,000,000: 1958-1961
6,000,000-6,000,000: 1961-1964
7,000,000-8,000,000: 1964-1967
8,000,000-9,000,000: 1967-1970
9,000,000-10,000,000: 1970-1975 |
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mitchins
Joined: 19 Dec 2013 Posts: 2 Location: Australia
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Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 2:25 am Post subject: Sonnar 300mm F4. |
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mitchins wrote:
I just bought a Sonnar 300mm /4 from ebay
with serial number: 2731500
According to this it is 1941?
I have not seen one like it and was worried it might be of dubious origin.
Not sure if images are showing here's the URL for anyone curious
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/171178242380?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
ebay.com.au/itm/171178242380?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649 |
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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7547 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 6:48 am Post subject: Re: Sonnar 300mm F4. |
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calvin83 wrote:
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16497 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 6:58 am Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
That lens was made 6.4.1940 for Contax in a batch of 100 lenses.
It seems to have been modified to fit a c-mount (?) film camera. _________________ Klaus - Admin
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mitchins
Joined: 19 Dec 2013 Posts: 2 Location: Australia
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Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 4:41 am Post subject: |
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mitchins wrote:
kds315* wrote: |
That lens was made 6.4.1940 for Contax in a batch of 100 lenses.
It seems to have been modified to fit a c-mount (?) film camera. |
Thanks for your reply kds315*.
The seller claims it was an m42 mount, I will have it in a few weeks and can post info on it.
The thing that got me is no other google results look like the images of that lens.
As long as it performs as well as what other people have claimed I guess I'm a happy clam. |
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etorix
Joined: 05 Oct 2014 Posts: 209 Location: London, England
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Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 11:44 am Post subject: |
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etorix wrote:
huh, my hazy ol' 15cm Carl Zeiss Jena Tessar is from 1915, cheers
hope it cleans up a bit
nice lettering on it, whatever |
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DConvert
Joined: 12 Jun 2010 Posts: 901 Location: Essex UK
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Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 9:12 pm Post subject: CZJ sonnar 135/4 |
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DConvert wrote:
At the weekend I spotted a CZJ sonnar 135/4 at a car boot sale in good condition.
Since it was only £5 I couldn't resist it
Checking the serial no it appears to be from around 1963-4, just like me!
Is there any chance someone could give a closer date for it given the no which looks like 68474X7 (Not got my glasses handy so I can't be sure of the second from last no. But I doubt that will make much difference!)
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philslizzy
Joined: 07 Aug 2012 Posts: 4747 Location: Cheshire, England
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Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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philslizzy wrote:
The photo of mine has disappeared. Here's a new one. Possibly the last one ever made?
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etorix
Joined: 05 Oct 2014 Posts: 209 Location: London, England
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Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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etorix wrote:
wo, cool number
i wonder how it transpired |
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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7547 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
Cool number. Any one have a lens with 9999999 serial? _________________ https://lensfever.com/
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edri
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Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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edri wrote:
Which is the thread of filters for Tessars with 3,470,000-4,000,000 (1952-1955) and 4,000,000-5,000,000 (1955-1958) serial numbers? The information that I have found on the internet are contradictory.
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GeorgeSalt
Joined: 09 Feb 2013 Posts: 336 Location: Norfolk, UK
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Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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GeorgeSalt wrote:
philslizzy wrote: |
The photo of mine has disappeared. Here's a new one. Possibly the last one ever made?
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It might be a contender for the highest serial number seen on a 135/3.5 MC, but I have a 5-digit serial number example which is presumably of later manufacture after they reset the numbering and moved away from the 8-digit serial numbers.
S/N 10,000,000 doesn't mark the last lens made, the table is just a broad range and guide to the age of lenses based on the serial number. Manufacture continued well beyond 1975, but at some point they stopped the old serial numbering system and started a new one. There is at least one serial number beyond yours on the recent Flektogon thread. I've not seen a definite statement as to which was the last of the 8-digit numbers or when the change in system occurred.
It is still a special number though. |
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