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rudolfkremers
Joined: 10 Jun 2014 Posts: 723 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2014 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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rudolfkremers wrote:
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I think this lens comes into its own when shooting people and animals - those sort of shots show of the lens' character - it has great pop. The only downside is a little green CA. |
I think it's pretty interesting across the board actually. I expected to use it for people, animals, landscapes... but then I was totally surprised at the qualities it has for shooting art photos. I definitely need to spend more time with it... _________________ https://www.rudolfkremers.com
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frenched
Joined: 16 Feb 2013 Posts: 395 Location: MD USA
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Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2014 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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frenched wrote:
ManualFocus-G wrote: |
I think this lens comes into its own when shooting people and animals - those sort of shots show of the lens' character - it has great pop. The only downside is a little green CA. |
I don't disagree, but the pop is all about quality of ambient light and camera angle. When hit just right, the VS definitely delivers.
I used the 80-200 almost exclusively on my recent African safari trip. (The other was the VS 35-70.) It totally lit up the animals but it did very very well with sunsets/landscapes. Color rendition and sharpness in the savannah woods and open plains in morning/afternoon light were just superb.
Sure, there's some CA. But not a problem these days as one click in LR makes all that go away. |
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IAZA
Joined: 16 Apr 2010 Posts: 2587 Location: Indonesia
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Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 3:35 am Post subject: |
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IAZA wrote:
I have this lens, a good lens for sure.
Maybe Klaus mean concerning to the title blown away.. The lens is good, you can get more beautiful shots with it. It's hard for people to say blown aya for such pictures, It doesnt mean that bad shot at all.
Maybe if you include the cropped to see detail I can understand if you say blown away by it's detail
This is my sample with it, I'm not saying this is good shot, just to show detail on cropped one. wide open.
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rudolfkremers
Joined: 10 Jun 2014 Posts: 723 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 7:23 am Post subject: |
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rudolfkremers wrote:
Well it blew me away. I think a bigger problem for some people is the type of shots. What blew mW away was the artistic quality.
I'll see if I can edit the thread title. _________________ https://www.rudolfkremers.com
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Jeff Zen
Joined: 17 Jun 2009 Posts: 262 Location: Northwest USA
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Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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Jeff Zen wrote:
Those shots are indeed arty and as such they provoke some subjective criticism that I wouldn't take too seriously.
They are not too soft to me. I'm very impressed with your compositions and the restrained color tones. Very nicely done! |
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vroger
Joined: 23 Jul 2014 Posts: 623 Location: MN
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Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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vroger wrote:
Looks like it preforms well, I like shallow DOF myself. Perhaps a few shots not wide open?
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frenched
Joined: 16 Feb 2013 Posts: 395 Location: MD USA
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 12:45 am Post subject: |
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frenched wrote:
vroger wrote: |
Perhaps a few shots not wide open? |
I can offer some. Taken at f/5.6 or f/8. I was shooting at high ISO to keep the shutter speed up because, well, it's MF and handheld. Don't recall the others, but the last one is at 80mm and full-frame (no crop).
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kenetik
Joined: 02 Mar 2014 Posts: 524
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 5:34 am Post subject: |
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kenetik wrote:
Gorgeous animal shots. The fact you took this lens on safari says a lot for it to begin with. _________________ ________________________________________________________
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rudolfkremers
Joined: 10 Jun 2014 Posts: 723 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 6:34 am Post subject: |
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rudolfkremers wrote:
Wonderful shots
I have literally used this lens once, on a gloomy day, in the garden.It did produce some very nice portraits, even under those conditions.
I can't wait to try it out in more diverse circumstances however. _________________ https://www.rudolfkremers.com
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rudolfkremers
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 6:35 am Post subject: |
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rudolfkremers wrote:
Jeff Zen wrote: |
Those shots are indeed arty and as such they provoke some subjective criticism that I wouldn't take too seriously.
They are not too soft to me. I'm very impressed with your compositions and the restrained color tones. Very nicely done! |
Understood
Thanks for the nice feedback, I am going to have fun with this lens I'm sure, and will definitely try a variety of subject mater/style.
I think I need to get a monopod though.... _________________ https://www.rudolfkremers.com
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RnR
Joined: 11 Jul 2012 Posts: 283 Location: Brisbane, Australia
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 7:56 am Post subject: |
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RnR wrote:
Impressive stuff frenched ! _________________ Currently shooting with Fuji X-E2s + Metabones Speedbooster + m42 and CY glass 💕
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16544 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 9:22 am Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Amazing stuff frenched! Well done!! _________________ Klaus - Admin
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Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
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Lloydy
Joined: 02 Sep 2009 Posts: 7785 Location: Ironbridge. UK.
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 10:22 am Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
Oh yes, fine pictures - and a fine lens. I do like that quality in a useful zoom - what's not to like ? _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
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CBokeh
Joined: 15 Oct 2009 Posts: 147 Location: Southern California
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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CBokeh wrote:
Lloydy wrote: |
Oh yes, fine pictures - and a fine lens. I do like that quality in a useful zoom - what's not to like ? |
I've been wavering over this lens for years, but have never bought it because as much as I like the images shot with it, I've never seen a lens in more desperate need of a tripod collar than this one. (And normally, such an issue doesn't concern me, but for some reason it's on my mind with this lens.) The lens strikes me as very long hanging off a camera body. The ironic part is, for as long as the barrel is, I can't figure out a spot to place a tripod collar if I could find one to fit the lens. |
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frenched
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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frenched wrote:
kds315* wrote: |
Amazing stuff frenched! Well done!! |
Vielen Dank, Klaus!
And everyone else, too!
Not fishing for compliments, just praising this lens.
I struggled to decide whether to rent a modern Canon lens or two for the trip or just bring what I had. My decision turned out okay. I got literally thousands of good/very good shots with the VS 80-200 and 35-70. Not disappointed at all. You really don't need monstrously long lenses for safaris because you get so close to the animals. So close it's scary sometimes.
I've often thought this lens could use a tripod collar, but I can't see how one could ever be attached. But though it may be a tad long it's quite light. |
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CBokeh
Joined: 15 Oct 2009 Posts: 147 Location: Southern California
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 12:48 am Post subject: |
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CBokeh wrote:
frenched wrote: |
But though it may be a tad long it's quite light. |
Kind of like the Minolta 60-200 and a number of other lenses from that time frame. As others have said, great shots, frenched. |
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Langstrum
Joined: 16 Feb 2014 Posts: 351
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 1:14 am Post subject: |
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Langstrum wrote:
RnR wrote: |
I think some of the shots are a little soft because of the shutter speed being a little low for some of the images (assuming most of them are at 200mm). #1 is nice and sharp, but its also taken at 1/2000.
I've settled for a Yashica 80-200 ML for landscape purposes. One day I'll get these puppies |
+1
Based on the first image, this lens is pretty sharp, and it can't go wrong with other images except you did this way. Most of the images is not as sharp as the first one so I suspected you got some vibration.
I also mostly shoot primes, but I have few zoom lenses, and I'm sure the FD 80-200 f/4 L can be a bit better than this lens. _________________
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RSalles
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 3:51 am Post subject: |
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RSalles wrote:
The other day I saw a Canon lens made collar - 3rdy part actually - for long lenses which could prob. be adapted to the Zeiss zoom.
At ebay there's a bunch of it... (I'm thinking to bring one for the Jupiter 21M 4/200, find the beast heavy enough,
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CBokeh
Joined: 15 Oct 2009 Posts: 147 Location: Southern California
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 5:27 am Post subject: |
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CBokeh wrote:
RSalles wrote: |
The other day I saw a Canon lens made collar - 3rdy part actually - for long lenses which could prob. be adapted to the Zeiss zoom.
At ebay there's a bunch of it... (I'm thinking to bring one for the Jupiter 21M 4/200, find the beast heavy enough,
Cheers,
Renato |
Renato, one could put a collar on this zoom, but then the collar will interfere with the user being able to access the entire zoom range. |
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RnR
Joined: 11 Jul 2012 Posts: 283 Location: Brisbane, Australia
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 6:24 am Post subject: |
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RnR wrote:
CBokeh wrote: |
The ironic part is, for as long as the barrel is, I can't figure out a spot to place a tripod collar if I could find one to fit the lens. |
Maybe the Manfrotto 293 'Telephoto Support' could be of use? Just without the strap so you have the full zoom range. _________________ Currently shooting with Fuji X-E2s + Metabones Speedbooster + m42 and CY glass 💕
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rudolfkremers
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 8:38 am Post subject: |
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rudolfkremers wrote:
Regarding length/weight, I find its ok as its not super heavy, although it does stick out a fair bit. Its not super great to hang it around your neck and walk around.
I also have the Vario Sonnar 35-70 f3.4, which is a lovely lens:
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rudolfkremers
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 8:40 am Post subject: |
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rudolfkremers wrote:
Langstrum wrote: |
RnR wrote: |
I think some of the shots are a little soft because of the shutter speed being a little low for some of the images (assuming most of them are at 200mm). #1 is nice and sharp, but its also taken at 1/2000.
I've settled for a Yashica 80-200 ML for landscape purposes. One day I'll get these puppies |
+1
Based on the first image, this lens is pretty sharp, and it can't go wrong with other images except you did this way. Most of the images is not as sharp as the first one so I suspected you got some vibration.. |
It was a gloomy day and I was just messing around, so I ended up compromising on shutterspeed. I din't mind for the art shots though.Sharpness isn't everything.
HOWEVER, I would like to have more control over these decisions, so I ordered a monopod yesterday. I'm struggling with handheld shots at the longer lens spectrum _________________ https://www.rudolfkremers.com
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Nordentro
Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 4713 Location: Lillehammer, Norway
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 10:22 am Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
I have a general impression that many Zeiss lenses quite often have issues with CA?
IQ else wise is superb in most cases. _________________ Lars | Manuellfokus.no |
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Arctures
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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Arctures wrote:
My 5 cents regarding this gem:
[/img] _________________ Sony A7, NEX-5n, Panasonic GH5(Oly12-40/2., Contax Distagon T* 28/2.8, Contax Planar T* 50/1.4, Contax T* 80-200/4,
Minolta Rokkor MC 58/1.2, Minolta MC Rokkor-X PF 50/1.7, Minolta MD 50/2.0, Konica Hexanon AR 50/1.8,
Konica Hexanon 57/1.4, Rokkor-PF 55/1.7, Konica Hexanon 40/1.8, Auto Yashinon 50/2.0, Canon FD 50/3.5
Voigtl�nder APO Lanthar 90/3.5 M42, Topcon RE.Topcor 58/1.8, Helios-44-2 58/2.0, Canon FD 24/2.8,
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barryreid
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 3:14 pm Post subject: |
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barryreid wrote:
I like the VS80-200 it's my best MF tele-zoom.
I also have a Tamron 70-210SP (#19AH) and the Canon FD 70-210/4. When tested each @200mm on my A7r I was a bit surprised by the results. In order of performance (@200mmm) my copies ran Zeiss clearly first, with the Canon a surprisingly close second. The Tamron, which I expected to beat the Canon and possibly even the Zeiss, was in last place for both sharpness and CA. _________________ Canon + Contax + Minolta + Nikon + Olympus + Pentax + Yashica = Adaptall-2 |
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