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Gerald
Joined: 25 Mar 2014 Posts: 1196 Location: Brazil
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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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Gerald wrote:
This mirror lens is a good option if budget is not a problem:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Leitz-Canada-f-Leica-R-5-600-mm-Apo-Telyt-Prototype-Unicum-lens-/371087862716?pt=Camera_Lenses&hash=item56668f6bbc _________________ If raindrops were perfect lenses, the rainbow did not exist. |
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Rolf
Joined: 02 May 2009 Posts: 4123 Location: NRW/Germany
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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Rolf wrote:
Nordentro wrote: |
Using tripod is cheating Rolf
Great shot if it was handheld! |
Well Lars, many thanks for the flowers.
Of course it was without tripod/monpod (by the way all of the 500er pics if have posted here so far were handhelded)
This is also an aspect whether a small cam is usable with such a lens. I don't think so. It is much better to work with a real DSLR for better balance
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4060 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
Thank you for that, Gerald, but I'm afraid I was too late, the sale had ended. I'll be quicker next time. _________________ Regards,
Woodrim |
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Olivier
Joined: 18 Feb 2009 Posts: 5077 Location: France
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
I don't have much experience with numerous Mirror lenses.
But I have with the Tamron 55B SP 500 F8 and it is a very good lens. Handy, very smooth to focus, built-in Hood, sharp and contrasty. Works for proxiphotography too.
3 pictures I made with it :
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4060 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
Olivier: Those are outstanding, the first and third especially. And a pelican too - close to my heart. Thank you. _________________ Regards,
Woodrim |
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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8982 Location: Australia
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
I have the Tamron 55B Mirror SP500/8 it's a favorite no doubt about that, especially in bright sunlight.It's a great lens for both long and short distances (I have picked one up for as little as $50 au just because it had a small amount of fungus,smaller than a dime/5 cent piece). I also have the 06B 350/5.6,it has issues and until I get them fixed I can't really comment...I can see it has potential from Attila's samples.
I would love a Telyt as it really is the top of the pile, and keep looking and hoping for one in my price range The Russians are harder to find down my way,they do turn up but not on a regular basis. _________________ Moira, Moderator
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Olivier
Joined: 18 Feb 2009 Posts: 5077 Location: France
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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 8:49 am Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
woodrim wrote: |
Olivier: Those are outstanding, the first and third especially. And a pelican too - close to my heart. Thank you. |
You're welcome, Woodrim.
Thank you too.
Moïra also did excellent pictures with this lens. _________________ Olivier - Moderator
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Rolf
Joined: 02 May 2009 Posts: 4123 Location: NRW/Germany
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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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Rolf wrote:
Great images Olivier. My respect.
Below 3 samples with my Tamron 8/500 and Pentax K-5
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Olivier
Joined: 18 Feb 2009 Posts: 5077 Location: France
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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
Thank you very much Rolf.
Yours are also very respectful my friend.
Everything's in control ?
Oh, I forgot to mention :
#1 with Canon 5D Mark II
#2 & 3 with Canon 40D
All handheld. _________________ Olivier - Moderator
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57840 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Those are superb Ralf , especially last one _________________ -------------------------------
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57840 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I love cat shoot a lot , Olivier! _________________ -------------------------------
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Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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Olivier
Joined: 18 Feb 2009 Posts: 5077 Location: France
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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
Attila wrote: |
I love cat shoot a lot , Olivier! |
Thank you very much Attila.
The cat comes from this serie :
http://forum.mflenses.com/cat-with-a-cat-lens-tamron-sp-500-f8-t36498,highlight,%2Btamron+%2Bsp+%2B500.html
The Pelican from these ones :
http://forum.mflenses.com/visit-at-the-zoo-tamron-sp-500-f8-part-2-t37287,highlight,%2Btamron+%2Bsp+%2B500.html
http://forum.mflenses.com/visit-at-the-zoo-tamron-sp-500-f8-part-1-t37284,highlight,%2Btamron+%2Bsp+%2B500.html _________________ Olivier - Moderator
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SXR_Mark
Joined: 12 Jun 2010 Posts: 506 Location: England
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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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SXR_Mark wrote:
I have a hunch that mirror lenses suffer from more sample variability than normal refractive lenses. I have had a lot of them and some have been noticeably poor.
My top 5 are:
Tokina 300mm f6.3 for m4/3 - the best mirror lens I have tried but obviously no use for you! I mention it for completeness.
Rubinar 500mm f5.6 - Excellent. See this thread
Tamrom 55B 500mm f8 - very good
Olympus Zuiko 500mm f8 - very good (maybe a bit sharper than the Tamron but much smaller)
Chinon 300mm f5.6 - good. This is a T2 mount lens available under many names.
Ones I didn’t like:
Tokina 500mm f8 - decent, but obviously inferior to the Tamron
Sigma 600mm f8 - just soft
Ones that have issues:
Rubinar 500mm f8 - I don’t know what is wrong with this lens. it is sharp in liveview but the pictures always end up soft (like shutter vibration, but the problem persists even with a very solid tripod, remote release and long anti-shock)
Tamron 350mm f5.6 - shows obvious astigmatism so is ok but never very sharp. I assume I have a bad copy of this lens as lots of people rate it highly.
Super Paragon 300mm f5,6 - This is the same T2 lens as the Chinon but this one shows obvious astigmatism so doesn’t work so well in practice.
The above is just my personal experience from copies of the lenses that I own (or have owned). I don't intend to suggest anyone else's views are invalid.
Mark _________________ Olympus OM-D E-M1 for everything |
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4060 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 12:16 am Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
Thanks to all for additional information. Rolf: good images, like the beer. SXR_Mark: Thanks for sharing your experiences.
One thing becoming evident is that the focus must be precise, otherwise I realize these lenses are very unforgiving. I don't think I would do well without focusing aids. Perhaps my peaking and image enlargement focusing aids will make it possible.
I have seen another lens that caught my eye. The Sigma 5.6/400 looks to be better than their longer model. I found a couple of posts, but not a lot of other information. _________________ Regards,
Woodrim |
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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7547 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 4:06 am Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
The sigma is a good mirror lens but is does not appear frequently and many copy suffers from haze. The Spiratone Minitel-S 5.6/300 with 72mm filter will be a good budget choice. _________________ https://lensfever.com/
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kenetik
Joined: 02 Mar 2014 Posts: 524
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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 6:56 am Post subject: |
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kenetik wrote:
The Sigma 600 does a very good job, especially considering the focal length. It has a longer focus throw than the Vivitar 600mm solid cat I have and is easier to focus.
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ZoneV
Joined: 09 Nov 2009 Posts: 1633 Location: Germany
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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 7:35 am Post subject: |
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ZoneV wrote:
Whow, good images in this thread! I have to use my russian mirror lens 3M-5A more often! _________________ Camera modification, repair and DIY - some links to look through: http://www.4photos.de/camera-diy/index-en.html
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bernhardas
Joined: 01 Jan 2013 Posts: 1437
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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 9:12 am Post subject: |
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bernhardas wrote:
The many good images in this thread animated me to take out the Tokina again this morning.
My impression from today is that while the very far and very near are not as sharp as I would wish, the middle distances are quite OK.
Focus bracketing is of course critical.
One from this morning straight out of LR
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Ouwesok
Joined: 01 Jul 2014 Posts: 50 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 9:22 am Post subject: |
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Ouwesok wrote:
Tamron 55B at Pentax K20D
Fox by Ouwesok, on Flickr
Common Kestrel by Ouwesok, on Flickr
Grey Leg Goose by Ouwesok, on Flickr
Also usefull for shy insects
Green-eyed Hawker by Ouwesok, on Flickr _________________ Formerly known as toeteraar |
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kenetik
Joined: 02 Mar 2014 Posts: 524
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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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kenetik wrote:
bernhardas wrote: |
The many good images in this thread animated me to take out the Tokina again this morning.
My impression from today is that while the very far and very near are not as sharp as I would wish, the middle distances are quite OK.
Focus bracketing is of course critical.
One from this morning straight out of LR
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Gorgeous shot Bernhardas. The Tokina is a very good lens, as shown in your pic here it has excellent contrast and can be very sharp, and I still think this lens is a bargain.. I think that being better at less than infinity and long distance is probably true of all mirrors. _________________ ________________________________________________________
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bernhardas
Joined: 01 Jan 2013 Posts: 1437
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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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bernhardas wrote:
[quote="kenetik"]
bernhardas wrote: |
The many good images in this thread animated me to take out the Tokina again this morning.
My impression from today is that while the very far and very near are not as sharp as I would wish, the middle distances are quite OK.
Focus bracketing is of course critical.
One from this morning straight out of LR
Gorgeous shot Bernhardas. The Tokina is a very good lens, as shown in your pic here it has excellent contrast and can be very sharp, and I still think this lens is a bargain.. I think that being better at less than infinity and long distance is probably true of all mirrors. |
Thanks.
Well they are definitely a bargain,as the whole set in good condition can often be found for half the price of a Tamron.
I think at some point of timne I will definitely try one of the other better Mirrors but my Budget for this year was already blown in March |
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Rolf
Joined: 02 May 2009 Posts: 4123 Location: NRW/Germany
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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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Rolf wrote:
Here again 3 samples with Leica 8/500mm mirror and Nikon D700
Many thanks Olivier. Will send you within the next days a PM !
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Olivier
Joined: 18 Feb 2009 Posts: 5077 Location: France
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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
Thx Rolf !
I love these pictures, particularly the Hamburger clown ! _________________ Olivier - Moderator
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4060 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
Thanks, folks, keep them coming. Rolf: My wallet shivers when I see the Leica name. _________________ Regards,
Woodrim |
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Nordentro
Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 4710 Location: Lillehammer, Norway
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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
3M-5CA again
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