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56 DIN
Joined: 24 Apr 2010 Posts: 1656 Location: Germany Erbach /ODW
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Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 11:22 am Post subject: tokina 400mm 6.3 |
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56 DIN wrote:
sun from 2 o´clock, at 10 am, hazy atmosphere, distance ca 1-1.5 km
Nikon D 200
with Tokina 400mm f 6.3 at f 8
100 % crop of the tower
maybe sharpening was too much
The Tokina is a very light slim lens with built in hood - easy to take for a walk. Difficult for me only is focusing at shorter distances with the lens on my D200, cause of the dark viewfinder - anyhow the focus indicator works opposite to what is written that f 5.6 is the max, it does - might be better used with live view _________________ Thomas
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stuey
Joined: 17 May 2010 Posts: 11 Location: Wales
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Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 8:06 pm Post subject: Tokina |
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stuey wrote:
What ISO is this taken at ? That pic looks a little noisy, maybe it is the sharpening - fringing doesn't look to bad.
The colours look nicely saturated.
I am not familiar with the Tokina 400mm F6.3 - I did have a Tokina f5.6 400mm for a very short period prior to sending it back for a refund due to fungus - however - even with fungus it took good pics on my Pentax k10d
I am on the look out for the 400mm F5.6 as it does work well hand held
I have a Tokina 300mm f5.5 m42 which is a great little lens except for the fringing, however the fringing issues are fairly predictable so I tend to pick my subjects carefully to get the best from it. _________________ Pentax User
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Himself
Joined: 01 Mar 2007 Posts: 3213 Location: Montreal
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Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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Himself wrote:
EXIF said ISO#110.
Noisy due to the distance + hazy atmosphere + a lil bit of sharpening + 100% crop.
Nothing unusual. |
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stuey
Joined: 17 May 2010 Posts: 11 Location: Wales
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Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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stuey wrote:
That's odd - I have never noticed a noice effect due to haze - no doubt I will now.
Every day is a school day as they say _________________ Pentax User |
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56 DIN
Joined: 24 Apr 2010 Posts: 1656 Location: Germany Erbach /ODW
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Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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56 DIN wrote:
to see the difference - here is 100 % crop from original pic - not processed, except converting RAW to jpg
from de-hazing you get noise and that is what Himself said (am i wrong ?) and i sharpened it to much. . Just wanted to see the result under bad conditions and i think for a documentation of the tower´s cover it would be sufficient _________________ Thomas
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Himself
Joined: 01 Mar 2007 Posts: 3213 Location: Montreal
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Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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Himself wrote:
Stuey, you're right, haze by itself doesn't produce noise.
der einrahmer, you're right too, trying to remove the haze by sharpening the picture will produce noise.
Hope I answered both of you. |
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stuey
Joined: 17 May 2010 Posts: 11 Location: Wales
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Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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stuey wrote:
See I was right every day is a school day - I have learned something - cool
Any chance of a picture of the lens itself ?
I have read in the past that the use of a UV filter will help cut through haze but personally I have never noticed this actually happen once I use a UV filter _________________ Pentax User |
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56 DIN
Joined: 24 Apr 2010 Posts: 1656 Location: Germany Erbach /ODW
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Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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56 DIN wrote:
picture of the lens
sorry - took a while, but here it is:
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fatdeeman
Joined: 13 Jun 2009 Posts: 780 Location: UK
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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fatdeeman wrote:
I find my images tend to have more noise on a hazy day, this is with a Canon 350D and a Panasonic G1, it just seems to confuse the sensor, maybe the camera is trying to bring out detail through the haze or maybe the noise is just more evident because there are larger areas of uniform tones and the light is less strong but I definitely find my images nosier on a foggy/hazy/misty day, a least shooting raw. _________________ - Dave
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DSLR: Canon EOS 60D, Samsung GX-1S (Pentax *ist DS2)
Mirrorless: Panasonic DMC-G1, Sony NEX-5N
Compact: Canon PowerShot G3
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Wide: Tokina RMC 28mm F/2.8, Tamron Adaptall 2 28mm F/2.5, Sun Optical 28mm F/2.5, Super paragon 28mm F/2.8, Sigma filtermatic 24mm F/2.8, Fujinon 35mm F/2.8, Sun Optical 35mm F/2.8
Standard: Industar 50-2, Helios 44-2, Helios 44M, Helios 44M-3, Pentax-M 50mm F/1.4, Pentax-M 50mm F/1.7, Pentax-M 50mm F/2, Ricoh 50mm F/1.7, Chinon 50mm F/1.7
Tele: Pentacon 135mm F/2.8, Pentacon 200mm F/3.5, Optomax 200mm f/3.5, Sun Optical 135mm F/3.5, Soligor 350mm F/5.6
Zoom: Tokina 28-70mm f/3.5-4.5 SZ-X270 SD, Sigma Zoom Pi 35-200mm F4-5.6, Sun Optical 28-80mm F/3.5-4.5, Sunagor 80-205mm F/3.8, Tokina RMC 80-200mm F/4, Vivitar 70-150mm F/3.8, Tamron 95-205mm F/6.3, Tamron Adaptall 28-200mm F/3.8-5.6 LD Aspherical, Tokina RMC 70-210mm F/3.5
Mirror: Falcon (Samyang) 800mm F/8, MTO-11CA 1000mm F/10, Tamron Adaptall 2 500mm F/8
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stuey
Joined: 17 May 2010 Posts: 11 Location: Wales
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Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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stuey wrote:
Thanks for the pic.
I have not seen this lens before - again I have learned something _________________ Pentax User |
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marcusBMG
Joined: 07 Dec 2012 Posts: 1304 Location: Conwy N Wales
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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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marcusBMG wrote:
I have just acquired this lens. It's a cut above the average 400 6.3 in terms of construction and solidity - a quality item (but quite heavy - a kilo). I did make a wee mistake - i thought from the pics of it it was t-mount but no. So I am limited to my Lumix with MFT - CFD adapter.
First impressions good. The absence of fringing on the castle is particularly notable. Looks like it can give my Nestar a run for its money.
jpg at f8, some pp in LR and resize
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Pentax K3-ii; pentax K-S2; Samsung NX 20; Lumix G1 + adapters;
Adaptall collection (proliferating!) inc 200-500mm 31A, 300mm f2.8, 400mm f4.
Primes: takumar 55mm; smc 28mm, 50mm; kino/komine 28mm f2's, helios 58mm, Tamron Nestar 400mm, novoflex 400mm, Vivitar 135mm close focus, 105mm macro; Jupiter 11A; CZJ 135mm.
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marcusBMG
Joined: 07 Dec 2012 Posts: 1304 Location: Conwy N Wales
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Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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marcusBMG wrote:
Some more test pics today, taken alongside my Tamron Nestar. not much between them IMO, nestar perhaps edges it on sharpness. These two crops (Lumix G2) both at f11, same pp in LR, Tokina RMC top, Nestar below. addendum I think the graininess has been exacerbated by 85% jpg compression to reduce the upload
_________________ pentax ME super (retired)
Pentax K3-ii; pentax K-S2; Samsung NX 20; Lumix G1 + adapters;
Adaptall collection (proliferating!) inc 200-500mm 31A, 300mm f2.8, 400mm f4.
Primes: takumar 55mm; smc 28mm, 50mm; kino/komine 28mm f2's, helios 58mm, Tamron Nestar 400mm, novoflex 400mm, Vivitar 135mm close focus, 105mm macro; Jupiter 11A; CZJ 135mm.
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Yahvel
Joined: 12 Oct 2012 Posts: 243 Location: USA
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 1:44 am Post subject: |
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Yahvel wrote:
too much noise |
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