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kenetik
Joined: 02 Mar 2014 Posts: 524
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Posted: Thu May 22, 2014 2:51 am Post subject: Where do you store your lenses? |
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kenetik wrote:
I was curious where you guys store your lenses. I don't have anything super old, most of my glass dates from early seventies through nineties but I do have some larger lenses from the sixties. I've read about radioactivity and don't have anything on the lists, with the exception of the Minolta 58 1.2. I had all my lenses on shelves in my bedroom about three feet from my bed. I am not someone who is worried about radioactivity, there are sources all around us, but I figured why take the chance and moved it into a spare bedroom.
So where do you store your lenses, and is the potential of thorium etc a consideration? _________________ ________________________________________________________
I buy lots of lenses and sometimes I even use them... |
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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8982 Location: Australia
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Posted: Thu May 22, 2014 5:49 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
I could die any day (not that I am sick, just saying) and don't have much storage room, so the lenses are in boxes in the bedroom,and in the dining room in a cabinet. Do I worry about radioactive lenses...No, do I know which ones are radioactive..No...do I care (not being rude) No,not really. I find it interesting more than a concern.
The amount of xrays over my lifetime would be cause for more concern than any lens. However dropping a lens on your foot would cause more pain and discomfort than their radiation.. especially those Russians. _________________ Moira, Moderator
Fuji XE-1,Pentax K-01,Panasonic G1,Panasonic G5,Pentax MX
Ricoh Singlex TLS,KR-5,KR-5Super,XR-10
Lenses
Auto Rikenon's 55/1.4, 1.8, 2.8... 50/1.7 Takumar 2/58 Preset Takumar 2.8/105 Auto Takumar 2.2/55, 3.5/35 Super Takumar 1.8/55...Macro Takumar F4/50... CZJ Biotar ALU M42 2/58 CZJ Tessar ALU M42 2.8/50
CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
Auto Mamiya/Sekor 1.8/55 ...Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2.8/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 200/3.5 Tamron SP500/8 Tamron SP350/5.6 Tamron SP90/2.5
Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
Canon FL 58/1.2,Canon FL85/1.8,Canon FL 100/3.5,Canon SSC 2.8/100 ,Konica AR 100/2.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5
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kenetik
Joined: 02 Mar 2014 Posts: 524
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Posted: Thu May 22, 2014 6:21 am Post subject: |
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kenetik wrote:
Interesting Mo. Honestly I don't worry about it much either. I was curious if others did. I moved them as much to keep the bedroom from looking like a camera shop as I did concern. _________________ ________________________________________________________
I buy lots of lenses and sometimes I even use them... |
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480sparky
Joined: 16 Apr 2013 Posts: 355 Location: Iowa
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Posted: Thu May 22, 2014 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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480sparky wrote:
I'd be more concerned about the radioactivity of your smoke detectors.
Yes, they are radioactive. They contain americium-241. |
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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8982 Location: Australia
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Posted: Fri May 23, 2014 3:12 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
It is certainly an interesting topic, but it's one of those topics that is up to the individual to solve....and can so easily fall off the rails into some "interesting" and heated discussions. I believe there may be a few threads already on the forum about this very subject...it's finding them that's hard. _________________ Moira, Moderator
Fuji XE-1,Pentax K-01,Panasonic G1,Panasonic G5,Pentax MX
Ricoh Singlex TLS,KR-5,KR-5Super,XR-10
Lenses
Auto Rikenon's 55/1.4, 1.8, 2.8... 50/1.7 Takumar 2/58 Preset Takumar 2.8/105 Auto Takumar 2.2/55, 3.5/35 Super Takumar 1.8/55...Macro Takumar F4/50... CZJ Biotar ALU M42 2/58 CZJ Tessar ALU M42 2.8/50
CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
Auto Mamiya/Sekor 1.8/55 ...Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2.8/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 200/3.5 Tamron SP500/8 Tamron SP350/5.6 Tamron SP90/2.5
Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
Canon FL 58/1.2,Canon FL85/1.8,Canon FL 100/3.5,Canon SSC 2.8/100 ,Konica AR 100/2.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5
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tromboads
Joined: 29 May 2012 Posts: 1782 Location: Melbourne AU
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Posted: Fri May 23, 2014 3:19 am Post subject: |
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tromboads wrote:
I think the conclusion we came to last time was simply not to store them on your nuts. er.. well on your genitals. |
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duckrider
Joined: 11 Dec 2013 Posts: 437 Location: Germany
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Posted: Fri May 23, 2014 6:34 am Post subject: |
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duckrider wrote:
Humid enviroment in Your bedroom will be a much greater risk for Your lens than its radioactivity to You! Mention the loss of weight each night and caused by bed activty lost sweat!
So I do not store lenses in my bedroom. _________________ T*homas
(from the origin land of Zeiss, an obligation )
Zeiss ZF 3.5/18, 2.8/25, 2.0/35, 2/50macro, 1.4/50, 1.4/85, 2/100macro
Nikon Df, F2AS, F2A, F3/T, FM
ALPA 11Si, Angulon 2,8/35 ; Xenar 1,9/50 ; Tele-Tessar 4/200
Leica R3 SAFARI Safari Lenses 2.8/28 ; 2/50 ; 4/180
Rolleiflex SL 350 , Zeiss 2,8/16 ; 4/18 ; 2,8/25 ; 2,8/35 ; 1,4/35 ; 1,8/50 ; 2,8/85 ; 1,4/85 ; 4/135 ; 4/200
Leica M9-P, Leica M4-2, Tri-Elmar "Wate", Distagon 2,8/21, Biogon 2,8/28, Biogon 2/35, Planar 2/50, Tessar 4/85, M-Elmar 50mm, Summicron 90
Sony alpha 7r & adapters for all lenses above |
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dream100cc
Joined: 27 Apr 2014 Posts: 39 Location: Vietnam
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Posted: Fri May 23, 2014 6:51 am Post subject: |
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dream100cc wrote:
IIRC, a member of our forum who stores his lenses on a bookshelf which towards house's window in order to receive sunlight. Someone told me do not store lenses in dark area, because it causes fungus's development. |
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Aanything
Joined: 27 Aug 2011 Posts: 2201 Location: Piacenza, Italy
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Posted: Fri May 23, 2014 7:29 am Post subject: |
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Aanything wrote:
I store them in a metal locker with silica gel inside, lenses with caps on (well, most of them) and periodically take them out and dust them.
Basically fungus needs dark, dust and humidity to grow, controlling at least one of the three will greatly reduce the possibilities.
Transparent plastic boxes are a good choice too. _________________ C&C and editing of my pics are always welcome
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My gear
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Mir
Joined: 07 Feb 2011 Posts: 978 Location: Montreal, Canada
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Posted: Sat May 24, 2014 4:23 am Post subject: |
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Mir wrote:
Aanything wrote: |
I store them in a metal locker with silica gel inside, lenses with caps on (well, most of them) and periodically take them out and dust them.
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Mine is a wooden cabinet with glass sliding doors (so i can all see them )
silica, caps, i keep them clean and keep the cabinet dust free... _________________ "Obsta principiis, finem respice"
"There is a fine line between hobby and mental illness"
MISC: Tamron SP 35-80 (01A), Auto Chinon Tomioka 1.4/55, Tokina AT-X 2.5/90, Tamron SP 5,6/300 (54B)
ZEISS: WG Distagon 2.8/25, WG Distagon 2.8/35 HFT, WG Planar HFT 1.4/50, Ultron 1.8/50, WG Sonnar 2.8/85, WG Sonnar HFT 2.8/135
VOIGTLÄNDER : Ultron Aspherical 1.8/21, Ultron 2/28, Nokton Aspherical 1.2/35, Nokton Classic 1.4/40, Nokton Aspherical 1.5/50, Color-Heliar 2.5/75
MINOLTA: MD 3.5/35-70 Macro, MD 1.2/50, MC Rokkor-X 1.2/58, MD Macro 3.5/50
LEITZ: SUMMICRON-R 2/35 (II), SUMMICRON-R 2/50 (II), TELE ELMARIT-M 2,8/90 (Thin)
CANON RF: 2.8/28, 2/35, 1.2/50, 1.4/50, Serenar 1.8/50, 2/85, 2/100, 3.5/100
LTM : CHIYODA KOGAKU SUPER ROKKOR 1.8/5cm, CHIYOKO SUPER ROKKOR C 2/5cm, TOKYO KOGAKU Topcor-S 2/5cm, Nippon Kogaku NIKKOR-H.C 2/5cm, FUJI FILM CO. FUJINON L 2/5cm, KMZ Jupiter-8 2/5cm
And a small Minolta AF set: 2.8/20, 1.4/35, 1.4/50, 2/100, 4.5/100-200
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wuxiekeji
Joined: 15 Aug 2012 Posts: 213
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Posted: Sat May 24, 2014 2:03 pm Post subject: Re: Where do you store your lenses? |
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wuxiekeji wrote:
kenetik wrote: |
I've read about radioactivity |
There are 3 kinds of radioactive emissions: alpha, beta, and gamma radiation.
Thoriated lenses emit only alpha radiation which is 100% safe (unless ingested) and stopped by even a thin layer of your skin. It's also stopped easily by plastic, glass, or pretty much any other matter. Usually it's the rear element that is thoriated; the lens elements in front and the metal on the sides stop all radiation in those directions and they only emit toward the rear. Now with a plastic rear lens cap or mounted camera body, there is zero radiation leaking out through that side either.
Dangerous radioactivity is all beta and gamma radiation which can penetrate matter and cause radiation sickness and cancer. These are the kinds of radiation you should be worried about. Thoriated lenses emit none of that.
So you don't need to worry about separating them. _________________ Canon EOS 6D | Canon EOS 60D | Canon EOS-M | Voigtlander Nokton 1.4/35 | Zeiss Distagon C-Y 4/18 | Zeiss Distagon ZF 2/28 | Samyang 1.4/35 | Zeiss Planar C-Y 1.4/50 | Zeiss Planar C-Y 1.4/85 | Zeiss Makro-Planar C-Y 2.8/100 | Zeiss Sonnar C-Y 2.8/135 | Nikkor ED Ai-S 2.8/180 | Canon FD SSC Fluorite 2.8/300 | Tair-3S 4.5/300 |
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Piktuolis
Joined: 11 Dec 2012 Posts: 20 Location: Vilnius
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Posted: Sat May 24, 2014 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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Piktuolis wrote:
I use organizers from tool store, just added soft inlay. Some silica-gel bags inside and no front caps, so I can find the lens I want even without opening the organizer. Keep them next to me at work, don't really care about radiation.
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raay04
Joined: 08 Dec 2012 Posts: 340 Location: India
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Posted: Sat May 24, 2014 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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raay04 wrote:
Piktuolis wrote: |
I use organizers from tool store, just added soft inlay. Some silica-gel bags inside and no front caps, so I can find the lens I want even without opening the organizer. Keep them next to me at work, don't really care about radiation.
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Ex++ system ,i use something similar!! _________________ Cameras-Point and shoot- Powershot A590IS Mirroless-SONY NEX-3
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M42 Mount
Super-Takumar 55/1.8, Super-Takumar 50/1.4 ,SMC Takumar 50/1.4 ,MC Helios 44M7-58/2,MC Helios 77M-4 50/1.8,Helios 44-2(valdai), Zenitar-M 50/1.7 Pentacon 50/1.8, MC Jupiter-37AM 135/3.5, Industar 50-2 50/3.5
Nikon F mount
Vivitar close focus 28/2.8(Komine) Keleinar 5N 100/2.8
LTM
Jupiter 8 50/2
KIEV
Jupiter8M ( element donor lens )
Minolta SR(MD)
MD 35/1.8, MD 35-70/3.5 macro, MD 50/1.4 ,Vivitar Auto macro 55/2.8,
Canon FD
FDn50/1.4
Minolta AF
Vivitar (cosina) 100/3.5 macro
Minolta AF 35-70/4
Enlarger
EL NIKKOR 50/2.8
Adaptall
Tamron 24/2.5 , Tamron sp 90/2.5 |
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toto
Joined: 10 Apr 2013 Posts: 8 Location: UK
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Posted: Sat May 24, 2014 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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toto wrote:
Piktuolis wrote: |
I use organizers from tool store, just added soft inlay. Some silica-gel bags inside and no front caps, so I can find the lens I want even without opening the organizer. Keep them next to me at work, don't really care about radiation.
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I have mine all over the house in various boxes but I like this system - what is this organiser called? |
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Piktuolis
Joined: 11 Dec 2012 Posts: 20 Location: Vilnius
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Posted: Sat May 24, 2014 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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Piktuolis wrote:
toto wrote: |
I have mine all over the house in various boxes but I like this system - what is this organiser called? |
http://www.mano.com.tr/en/urunler_org-24-organizerler-dlqpt.html
It's big enough, sturdy enough and cheap enough (sale price ~8 Eur). |
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toto
Joined: 10 Apr 2013 Posts: 8 Location: UK
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Posted: Sat May 24, 2014 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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toto wrote:
Many thanks for that link - can't seem to find a European/UK supplier of them and it looks like you cannot buy from them direct. Will do a further search and post here if anything comes up. |
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kenetik
Joined: 02 Mar 2014 Posts: 524
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Posted: Sat May 24, 2014 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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kenetik wrote:
Those organizers are very cool. _________________ ________________________________________________________
I buy lots of lenses and sometimes I even use them... |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57849 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Sat May 24, 2014 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
http://forum.mflenses.com/storing-lenses-t812.html _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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s58y
Joined: 05 Sep 2010 Posts: 131 Location: Eastern NY
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Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 2:19 am Post subject: Re: Where do you store your lenses? |
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s58y wrote:
wuxiekeji wrote: |
kenetik wrote: |
I've read about radioactivity |
There are 3 kinds of radioactive emissions: alpha, beta, and gamma radiation.
Thoriated lenses emit only alpha radiation which is 100% safe (unless ingested) and stopped by even a thin layer of your skin.
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Dangerous radioactivity is all beta and gamma radiation which can penetrate matter and cause radiation sickness and cancer. These are the kinds of radiation you should be worried about. Thoriated lenses emit none of that.
So you don't need to worry about separating them. |
Thorium lenses emit plenty of gamma rays (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouLbDd3YOTA&list=UUTZ_OzAfM5VJf_SHyYzAMUw), although the gamma radiation a few feet away from the lens is small compared to other sources, and most people don't worry about it.
I keep all my radioactive lenses in a room far from where I spend lots of time, inside a sealed food container with silica gel canisters inside to keep the humidity down. Non-radioactive lenses are also kept in food containers, but not in a far-away room. _________________
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