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Oldhand
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 Posted: Sun May 25, 2014 10:34 pm Post subject: Super Rare - Or Super-Lucky Seller |
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Oldhand wrote:
This lens has just recently sold.
It was not cheap.
Was the seller very lucky, or is this lens really that rare?
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/141290561365?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649
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iangreenhalgh1
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| Posted: Sun May 25, 2014 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Never seen one before.
Two pieces of hype come into play here - the Tomioka myth and a 1.2 aperture.
It is bound to have gone to Asia where it will be used to make lots of 'bokeh' pictures wide open. 
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Boris_Akunin
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| Posted: Sun May 25, 2014 11:08 pm Post subject: |
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Boris_Akunin wrote:
The "mythical" Tomioka - the M42 version with "Tomioka" written around the front element - is rather overpriced but that price isn't all that unusual (it's on the high end of the price range though). The same lens is also sold as Chinon and Revuenon (always with "Tomioka" on the lens), I had the Revuenon version a while ago.
I don't know where the hype is coming from, mine wasn't very impressive. IQ is similar to the later 55/1.2's from Porst and Revuenon but those have better coatings. My Minolta 58/1.2 is way better...
Mine sold for 400€ which is a lot more than I paid and a lot more than anyone should ever pay for this lens.
If you find one for a low price: buy it, then SELL IT
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mo
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| Posted: Mon May 26, 2014 1:43 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
I think the seller was lucky,it looks like a nice lens (purely going by its looks) but too much for me to try it and see how it actually performs.
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Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
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monkjason
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| Posted: Mon May 26, 2014 1:49 am Post subject: |
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monkjason wrote:
I joined this bidding but was thrown away, I think the price is too high: I'd rather choose a Hexaon 57/1.2 to instead. 
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Mike Deep
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| Posted: Mon May 26, 2014 4:22 am Post subject: |
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Mike Deep wrote:
Hmm. Maybe I should sell mine after all?
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hifisapi
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| Posted: Mon May 26, 2014 8:25 am Post subject: |
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hifisapi wrote:
I would have paid $500 tops, IF I was still shooting film on my M42 bodies but Im not.
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hifisapi
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| Posted: Mon May 26, 2014 8:27 am Post subject: |
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hifisapi wrote:
| Mike Deep wrote: |
| Hmm. Maybe I should sell mine after all? |
If you can get $800, its time to sell indeed.
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Pancolart
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| Posted: Mon May 26, 2014 8:30 am Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
The condition seems really nice. As such quite a collectors item.
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CuriousOne
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| Posted: Mon May 26, 2014 9:21 am Post subject: |
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CuriousOne wrote:
Sometimes, looking at ebay sold listings, I see lens sold for 3-4x price, than their current retail price is (new lens, currently in production). So I think this is sort of money laundering....
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ManualFocus-G
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
People will pay silly prices at auction if the item is reasonably hard to come by and has a reputation (even if they're not necessarily that great). For example I sold my two smaller 300mm mirror lenses recently and brought in nearly £200 each for them  (Not my Rubinar though!). I'm likely sell some of my "shelf" classics soon for the same reason.
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Gerald
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Gerald wrote:
Buying a Yashinon 55mm F1.2 for $833 instead of a Sigma Art 50mm F1.4, is more or less like buying a used 1972 VW Beetle for about the same price of a brand new 2014 Mercedes S600. 
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iangreenhalgh1
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| Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 12:30 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
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| Buying a Yashinon 55mm F1.2 for $833 instead of a Sigma Art 50mm F1.4, is more or less like buying a used 1972 VW Beetle for about the same price of a brand new 2014 Mercedes S600. |
People do that, the Beetle has a special status among aficionados. Old VW camper vans also sell for insane prices.
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Oldhand
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| Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 1:06 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
| iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
| Gerald wrote: |
| Buying a Yashinon 55mm F1.2 for $833 instead of a Sigma Art 50mm F1.4, is more or less like buying a used 1972 VW Beetle for about the same price of a brand new 2014 Mercedes S600. |
People do that, the Beetle has a special status among aficionados. Old VW camper vans also sell for insane prices. |
This one must be worth a small fortune
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hifisapi
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| Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 1:14 am Post subject: |
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hifisapi wrote:
| Oldhand wrote: |
| iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
| Gerald wrote: |
| Buying a Yashinon 55mm F1.2 for $833 instead of a Sigma Art 50mm F1.4, is more or less like buying a used 1972 VW Beetle for about the same price of a brand new 2014 Mercedes S600. |
People do that, the Beetle has a special status among aficionados. Old VW camper vans also sell for insane prices. |
This one must be worth a small fortune
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that van looks pregnant.
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mo
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| Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 2:23 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
That must the Kombi beetle blend,nice capture OH. 
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Auto Rikenon's 55/1.4, 1.8, 2.8... 50/1.7 Takumar 2/58 Preset Takumar 2.8/105 Auto Takumar 2.2/55, 3.5/35 Super Takumar 1.8/55...Macro Takumar F4/50... CZJ Biotar ALU M42 2/58 CZJ Tessar ALU M42 2.8/50
CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
Auto Mamiya/Sekor 1.8/55 ...Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2.8/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 200/3.5 Tamron SP500/8 Tamron SP350/5.6 Tamron SP90/2.5
Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
Canon FL 58/1.2,Canon FL85/1.8,Canon FL 100/3.5,Canon SSC 2.8/100 ,Konica AR 100/2.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5
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monkjason
Joined: 02 Dec 2013
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Location: Beijing, China
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| Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 5:41 am Post subject: |
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monkjason wrote:
Today find one Chinon version of this lens on EvilBay, the sale price is US$ 1600+......if I were the buyer I will not buy it spending more than USD350, haha.
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Cameras: Pentax K01, Konica T3N chrome and black, Minolta XD11, Porst CR-7
Konica Lenses: UC Hexanon 35/2, UC Hexanon 28/1.8AE, UC Hexanon 15/2.8AE Fish-eye, UC Hexanon 80-200/4AE, UC Hexanon 45-100/3.5AE, UC Hexanon 400/5.6AE, FL-Hexanon 300/6.3AE, Hexanon 85/1.8AE, Hexanon 24/2.8 F22 Version, Hexanon 35/2AE, M-Hexanon 50/2, M-Hexanon 35/2
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