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imagedit
Joined: 17 May 2014 Posts: 92 Location: London, england
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Posted: Sat May 17, 2014 2:21 pm Post subject: Jupiter-9 broken aperture blades |
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imagedit wrote:
I just bought a j-9 with broken aperture blades for £25, perfect condition apart from the blades
This is the version i have
Here's what i'm dealing with.
I cannot get to the blades from the front, there seems to be no way of getting the middle element out.
Any tips on where to start? |
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std
Joined: 09 Feb 2010 Posts: 1827 Location: Bulgaria
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Posted: Sat May 17, 2014 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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std wrote:
You can try following this http://www.fotuz.ru/67-razborka-ob-ektiva-yupiter-9-i-remont-diafragmyi.html
it's in Russian but i guess a Google translate will do the trick.
and be careful with the blades - do not force them if they are not moving properly - if you feel force just rearrange them again from the start. _________________ Stefan
My lens list:
SLR MD: Rokkor 1,7/50 Exakta: Kilfitt-Makro-Kilar E 3.5/4cm; CZJ 2/50 Pancolar;M42: CZJ 2.8/50 Tessar; Mir-1B 2.8/37; Jupiter-9 2/85 T-mount: Tamron 5.9/200; Tamron 6.9/300; Tamron 7.5/400 C-mount: Cosmicar 1.8/50 Y/S: Sun 3.5/38-90, Sun 4/70-210 RF Contax RF: Jupiter-8 2/50; Contax G:CZ 2,8/21 Biogon T; CZ 2,8/28 Biogon T; CZ 2/35 Planar T; CZ 2/45 Planar T; CZ 2,8/90 Sonnar T |
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imagedit
Joined: 17 May 2014 Posts: 92 Location: London, england
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Posted: Sat May 17, 2014 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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imagedit wrote:
Thanks for the reply.
Unfortunately that is a different version of the j-9, it looks easier.The link shows that you have to go through the front of the lens.
I can only see this line as being a way to get to the lens off, i took out the tiny screw and tried to twist it off but nothing.What else could the screw be for?
Jvg got to the same point and also had the same line. vv
I will private message him and see if i get an answer. _________________ My Flickr |
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std
Joined: 09 Feb 2010 Posts: 1827 Location: Bulgaria
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Posted: Sat May 17, 2014 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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std wrote:
This J9 looks same as the Kiev version.
Since you had the screw removed now you just need to unscrew the front part.
you can use a rubber sheet to hold the lens sturdy. _________________ Stefan
My lens list:
SLR MD: Rokkor 1,7/50 Exakta: Kilfitt-Makro-Kilar E 3.5/4cm; CZJ 2/50 Pancolar;M42: CZJ 2.8/50 Tessar; Mir-1B 2.8/37; Jupiter-9 2/85 T-mount: Tamron 5.9/200; Tamron 6.9/300; Tamron 7.5/400 C-mount: Cosmicar 1.8/50 Y/S: Sun 3.5/38-90, Sun 4/70-210 RF Contax RF: Jupiter-8 2/50; Contax G:CZ 2,8/21 Biogon T; CZ 2,8/28 Biogon T; CZ 2/35 Planar T; CZ 2/45 Planar T; CZ 2,8/90 Sonnar T |
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imagedit
Joined: 17 May 2014 Posts: 92 Location: London, england
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Posted: Sat May 17, 2014 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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imagedit wrote:
Thanks for the extra push, i tried to unscrew it by hand with no luck.
I guess the rubber added a bit of extra grip or spread the load, also did not think i had something like a rubber mat.
So i have access now, will post an update later or tomorrow.
Again thanks _________________ My Flickr |
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imagedit
Joined: 17 May 2014 Posts: 92 Location: London, england
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Posted: Sat May 17, 2014 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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imagedit wrote:
So this could have been the reason why the blades were dislodged...hmm.
I flattened the blade and smoothed it out so its not that bad now, and the macro pics make it seem worse.
I'm not sure if it will work or if i have to go with 14 blades.
I'm cleaning the blades at the moment, but i heard that jupiter lenses just have some oil, is this correct? if so should i add some sort of oil or just keep them clean?
Most of my russian lenses have some oil, my jupiter-8 and helios 44-2 have quiet a bit.
_________________ My Flickr |
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RSalles
Joined: 12 Aug 2012 Posts: 1372 Location: Brazil - RS / South
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Posted: Sat May 17, 2014 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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RSalles wrote:
Hi,
Keep the blades clean without puring any oil on it. The oil we use to see in these J-9's had came from the grease at some lub points in the lens,
Best,
Renato |
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std
Joined: 09 Feb 2010 Posts: 1827 Location: Bulgaria
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Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 1:09 pm Post subject: |
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std wrote:
The blades need to be clean otherwise they will stick - in the link i gave you above the guy sinks them in gasoline in order to clean them from the grease. This damaged blade you can remove - the aperture will still function without 1 blade it will just not be very even . If you remove 2 then it will form a hole while you close it past f8 _________________ Stefan
My lens list:
SLR MD: Rokkor 1,7/50 Exakta: Kilfitt-Makro-Kilar E 3.5/4cm; CZJ 2/50 Pancolar;M42: CZJ 2.8/50 Tessar; Mir-1B 2.8/37; Jupiter-9 2/85 T-mount: Tamron 5.9/200; Tamron 6.9/300; Tamron 7.5/400 C-mount: Cosmicar 1.8/50 Y/S: Sun 3.5/38-90, Sun 4/70-210 RF Contax RF: Jupiter-8 2/50; Contax G:CZ 2,8/21 Biogon T; CZ 2,8/28 Biogon T; CZ 2/35 Planar T; CZ 2/45 Planar T; CZ 2,8/90 Sonnar T |
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imagedit
Joined: 17 May 2014 Posts: 92 Location: London, england
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Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 2:23 pm Post subject: |
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imagedit wrote:
Good news, the operation was a success.
Thanks for the help with the oil, yeah i used alcohol instead of gasoline and it worked a treat.I will miss the multi coloured look to the blades though.
It took a couple of hours to reassemble the blades and put it back together again.I thought i would try with the broken blade first and it works perfectly,no catches or hitching.
I have taken a couple of shots out of the window and it performs as a jupiter-9 should.
Pretty good buy for £25
Thanks _________________ My Flickr |
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Lloydy
Joined: 02 Sep 2009 Posts: 7771 Location: Ironbridge. UK.
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Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
Well done, it's good to see this nice lens saved. _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
I have loads of stuff that I have to get rid of, if you see me commenting about something I have got and you want one, ask me.
My Flickr https://www.flickr.com/photos/mudplugga/
My ipernity -
http://www.ipernity.com/home/294337 |
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RSalles
Joined: 12 Aug 2012 Posts: 1372 Location: Brazil - RS / South
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Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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RSalles wrote:
Congrats, new lens for few money!
[]s,
Renato |
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imagedit
Joined: 17 May 2014 Posts: 92 Location: London, england
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Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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imagedit wrote:
Thanks guys.
A couple of test shots.
f2 20ft v
f2 8ft v
f2 6ft v
f4 v
f22 v
nice lens to use, will test more soon.
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std
Joined: 09 Feb 2010 Posts: 1827 Location: Bulgaria
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Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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std wrote:
Looks good even wide open _________________ Stefan
My lens list:
SLR MD: Rokkor 1,7/50 Exakta: Kilfitt-Makro-Kilar E 3.5/4cm; CZJ 2/50 Pancolar;M42: CZJ 2.8/50 Tessar; Mir-1B 2.8/37; Jupiter-9 2/85 T-mount: Tamron 5.9/200; Tamron 6.9/300; Tamron 7.5/400 C-mount: Cosmicar 1.8/50 Y/S: Sun 3.5/38-90, Sun 4/70-210 RF Contax RF: Jupiter-8 2/50; Contax G:CZ 2,8/21 Biogon T; CZ 2,8/28 Biogon T; CZ 2/35 Planar T; CZ 2/45 Planar T; CZ 2,8/90 Sonnar T |
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Jvg
Joined: 07 Nov 2012 Posts: 205 Location: New York City
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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Jvg wrote:
Congrats Imagedit,
you made me want to attempt to fix mine |
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imagedit
Joined: 17 May 2014 Posts: 92 Location: London, england
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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imagedit wrote:
Hey, yeah there was not a lot of info on what we needed to fix our lens.
I was going to give up too, but std said try a rubber sheet, and it worked.
I hope your lens works just as good as mine does.
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!Karen
Joined: 20 Jul 2013 Posts: 836 Location: Belgium Baby
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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!Karen wrote:
Well done on the successful repair, the first images look neat! _________________ FLICKR PHOTOSTREAM |
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imagedit
Joined: 17 May 2014 Posts: 92 Location: London, england
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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imagedit wrote:
Thank you, i can only hope i can take better images with this lens.
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Jvg
Joined: 07 Nov 2012 Posts: 205 Location: New York City
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Posted: Thu May 22, 2014 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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Jvg wrote:
imagedit wrote: |
Hey, yeah there was not a lot of info on what we needed to fix our lens.
I was going to give up too, but std said try a rubber sheet, and it worked.
I hope your lens works just as good as mine does.
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i'll take a shot at it over the weekend. Hopefully all goes good. |
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Lightshow
Joined: 04 Nov 2011 Posts: 3666 Location: Calgary
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Posted: Fri May 23, 2014 1:25 am Post subject: |
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Lightshow wrote:
Congrats on fixing it. _________________ A Manual Focus Junky...
One photographers junk lens is an artists favorite tool.
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/lightshow-photography/ |
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