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 Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 3:10 pm Post subject: Primotar or Orestor 135? |
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Rick1779 wrote:
Don't care much about the F difference, which one is best for? And how they compare with the sonnarish Jupiter-11?
Any suggestion? There are many thread on both lenses, but can spot a single one with a direct comparision with both the meyers
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Primotar is softer at maximum aperture, has some diffuse glow and has different bokeh. Matter of taste which one prefers I guess, but the Orestor has overall better sharpness and contrast.
A good J11 is better than both.
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Rick1779 wrote:
My 1968 ltm J-11 is pretty good 
You're killing my LBA 
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
I have soooo many 135mms, all good ones, but the J11 is close to the top of the pile, hard not to love the Sonnr rendering. I also have the original Zeiss Sonnar is it copied from, in Contax rf mount, that might be the best of the lot, although my Schneider Tele-Xenar 4/135 is very close, they are very similar designs. The Primotar has distinctive bokeh so if you see one cheap, might be worth a try to see if you like it.
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Rick1779 wrote:
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| I have soooo many 135mms, all good ones, but the J11 is close to the top of the pile, hard not to love the Sonnr rendering. I also have the original Zeiss Sonnar is it copied from, in Contax rf mount, that might be the best of the lot, although my Schneider Tele-Xenar 4/135 is very close, they are very similar designs. The Primotar has distinctive bokeh so if you see one cheap, might be worth a try to see if you like it. |
Indeed I love the J11 too
thanks for the advice on primotar
this is what my J-11 can do, hand held with nex on a concert
hi-res one
http://www.telltale.it/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/DSC8981.jpg
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Aanything wrote:
I had both, and sold both when I decided I had too many 135's.
They're very good lenses (the orestor is better imho), but competition is quite tough in the 135mm fl.
I ended up keeping:
RE Auto Topcor 3.5/135,
Carl Zeiss Jena Sonnar 4/135 (zebra, exakta),
Carl Zeiss Sonnar T* 2.8/135 (C/Y),
Carl Zeiss Sonnar 4/135 (contax rf),
Jupiter 11 hand-grenade style (m42),
tair-11 (000-serial, red P, m39)
These are all better - for me - than the two for some reason, be it performance, character or performance/price ratio.
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