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Newfie
Joined: 04 Mar 2014 Posts: 242 Location: Austin, Texas
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Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 2:58 pm Post subject: Zoom Lens |
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Newfie wrote:
Hello all,
Well I only have one more lens to get. I think something in the range of 28mm to 105mm range would be nice.
I had two Kiron 28-85's in K mount and they both froze up and the apature wouldn't work. So I guess M42 only
I did some reading on the subject and input from you guys has also been very helpful to me so thanks in advance.
Regards,
Gavin _________________ Photography - What a ride
Accura Supertel 135/2.8 PRESET ,Soligor 135mm/ f2.8 Preset, Soligor 135mm/f3.5 Preset (Tokina) Soligor 135mm/2.8 Preset (Tameron) Super Lentar 35mm/ f2,8 Preset (Tokina) Auto Chinon 35/ f2.8, Ensinor 24mm/ f2.8, Ensinor 135mm/ f2.8, Helios 40-2 85mm/ f 1.5, Helios 44-6 58mm/ f2.0, Pentacon 50mm/ f1.8, Spiratone 28mm/3.5, Spiratone 105mm/ 2.5, Vivitar Series 1 70-210 (Kiron) , SMC Tak 55mm/1.8, Cimko 28mm/ f2.8 Macro, Accura Supertel 105mm/ f2.4, Sun 38-90/ f3.5 Y/S Zoom, , Soligor 35-105/ f 3.5 Zoom (Tokina) , Access 28-70 P-MC / f2.8-4.2, , , Paragon 11 28mm / f2.8 Macro, Aetna Rokunar 28mm / f2.8 Macro |
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Excalibur
Joined: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 5019 Location: UK
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Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 4:15 pm Post subject: Re: Zoom Lens |
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Excalibur wrote:
Newfie wrote: |
Hello all,
Well I only have one more lens to get. I think something in the range of 28mm to 105mm range would be nice.
I had two Kiron 28-85's in K mount and they both froze up and the apature wouldn't work. So I guess M42 only
I did some reading on the subject and input from you guys has also been very helpful to me so thanks in advance.
Regards,
Gavin |
Well there is the Kiron 28mm-105mm 3.3-f4.5...but I suppose with your bad luck with Kirons you won't want another. Well if you see one going for say £10 you mind change your mind so just in case:- My Kiron is sharp like most old good zooms, but pixel peeping and a prime is better, and my copy is better at 28mm than 105mm, also I don't know if they make an M42 ver and maybe for you is:- I have no idea how it performs on a digital camera and it's heavy for a Nex.
_________________ Canon A1, AV1, T70 & T90, EOS 300 and EOS300v, Chinon CE and CP-7M. Contax 139, Fuji STX-2, Konica Autoreflex TC, FS-1, FT-1, Minolta X-700, X-300, XD-11, SRT101b, Nikon EM, FM, F4, F90X, Olympus OM2, Pentax S3, Spotmatic, Pentax ME super, Praktica TL 5B, & BC1, , Ricoh KR10super, Yashica T5D, Bronica Etrs, Mamiya RB67 pro AND drum roll:- a Sony Nex 3
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15685
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Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Tokina AT-X 28-135 if you can find one is a wonderful lens and dirt cheap. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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Newfie
Joined: 04 Mar 2014 Posts: 242 Location: Austin, Texas
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Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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Newfie wrote:
Thanks Excalibur for the feedback, much appreciated.
I must have had bad luck as the 28-85 Varifocal is pretty highly rated and the 28-105 even more so.
One of them had a bad case of lens crep as well
Might take a look at the 28-105 again. I will definately try to look at others as well.
Regards,
Gavin _________________ Photography - What a ride
Accura Supertel 135/2.8 PRESET ,Soligor 135mm/ f2.8 Preset, Soligor 135mm/f3.5 Preset (Tokina) Soligor 135mm/2.8 Preset (Tameron) Super Lentar 35mm/ f2,8 Preset (Tokina) Auto Chinon 35/ f2.8, Ensinor 24mm/ f2.8, Ensinor 135mm/ f2.8, Helios 40-2 85mm/ f 1.5, Helios 44-6 58mm/ f2.0, Pentacon 50mm/ f1.8, Spiratone 28mm/3.5, Spiratone 105mm/ 2.5, Vivitar Series 1 70-210 (Kiron) , SMC Tak 55mm/1.8, Cimko 28mm/ f2.8 Macro, Accura Supertel 105mm/ f2.4, Sun 38-90/ f3.5 Y/S Zoom, , Soligor 35-105/ f 3.5 Zoom (Tokina) , Access 28-70 P-MC / f2.8-4.2, , , Paragon 11 28mm / f2.8 Macro, Aetna Rokunar 28mm / f2.8 Macro |
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Newfie
Joined: 04 Mar 2014 Posts: 242 Location: Austin, Texas
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Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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Newfie wrote:
Hi Ian,
You are a treasure trove of information and you are always there to help. I pay great attention to your posts
I will definately take a look at that one.
By the way, I looked up your hometown and it must be a very nice place to live.
Regards,
Gavin _________________ Photography - What a ride
Accura Supertel 135/2.8 PRESET ,Soligor 135mm/ f2.8 Preset, Soligor 135mm/f3.5 Preset (Tokina) Soligor 135mm/2.8 Preset (Tameron) Super Lentar 35mm/ f2,8 Preset (Tokina) Auto Chinon 35/ f2.8, Ensinor 24mm/ f2.8, Ensinor 135mm/ f2.8, Helios 40-2 85mm/ f 1.5, Helios 44-6 58mm/ f2.0, Pentacon 50mm/ f1.8, Spiratone 28mm/3.5, Spiratone 105mm/ 2.5, Vivitar Series 1 70-210 (Kiron) , SMC Tak 55mm/1.8, Cimko 28mm/ f2.8 Macro, Accura Supertel 105mm/ f2.4, Sun 38-90/ f3.5 Y/S Zoom, , Soligor 35-105/ f 3.5 Zoom (Tokina) , Access 28-70 P-MC / f2.8-4.2, , , Paragon 11 28mm / f2.8 Macro, Aetna Rokunar 28mm / f2.8 Macro |
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PhantomLord
Joined: 08 Apr 2013 Posts: 476 Location: Szczecin, Poland
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Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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PhantomLord wrote:
Hi Newfie,
Well... I don't think you had bad luck with Kiron 28-85mm, I bought one some time ago which was described as in v.good condition but it had some fungus inside as well as stuck aperture. It is, however quite decent lens to disassemble (there's help from boggys: http://www.boggys.co.uk/page54.html ). I cleaned it clear from fungus and sticky apertures and it worked like charm, but... it was such a crappy lens . I read a lot of good reviews about that lens, before I bought it and it was so so so far away behind the Tamron SP 01A that I sold it almost instantly and was left very disappointed. Don't get me wrong, I love Kiron, 70-150/4 is amazing little lens as well Kiron made Viv S1 70-210/3.5, but Kiron 28-85 didn't cut the mustard for me.
The lens I could wholeheartedly recommend is Vivitar Series 1 28-90/2.8-3.5 lens. It's in the same league as Tamron SP 01A and it's a little bit wider and longer at both ends. This 28mm instead of 35mm is very useful while using APS-C sensor.
In my opinion, you should hunt Vivitar Series 1 28-90/2.8-3.5 or if you're ok with 35mm on the wide edge - Tamron SP 01A 35-80mm/2.8-3.8 - both are great. (To be honest I still prefer Tamron, but it really is not wide enough for APS-C for me).
What's more, both are great on film and have very useful focal ranges as well.
Cheers
Mateusz _________________ Mateusz
No good story ever starts with drinking tea.
Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mateuszmolik/sets/ |
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TrueLoveOne
Joined: 30 Sep 2012 Posts: 1840 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 5:35 pm Post subject: |
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TrueLoveOne wrote:
I have the Tokina AT-X 28-85, also very good and very cheap.
You could also look at Tamron Adaptall SP series, with M42 mount easy to adapt! Very well built and optically great lenses!
http://www.adaptall-2.org/lenses/28A.html _________________ My Flickr photostream: http://www.flickr.com/photos/chantalrene/
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PhantomLord
Joined: 08 Apr 2013 Posts: 476 Location: Szczecin, Poland
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Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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PhantomLord wrote:
Photos taken by TrueLoveOne with Tokina AT-X 28-85 made up my mind to buy this lens, but my copy had really bad problems with infinity adjustment. Nevertheless even if I managed to focus this lens proper, results were really mediocre. I think, however, somebody may had tampered with this lens.
Cheers
Mateusz _________________ Mateusz
No good story ever starts with drinking tea.
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Newfie
Joined: 04 Mar 2014 Posts: 242 Location: Austin, Texas
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Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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Newfie wrote:
Thanks PhantomLord much appreciated and I will take a look for sure
Regards,
Gavin _________________ Photography - What a ride
Accura Supertel 135/2.8 PRESET ,Soligor 135mm/ f2.8 Preset, Soligor 135mm/f3.5 Preset (Tokina) Soligor 135mm/2.8 Preset (Tameron) Super Lentar 35mm/ f2,8 Preset (Tokina) Auto Chinon 35/ f2.8, Ensinor 24mm/ f2.8, Ensinor 135mm/ f2.8, Helios 40-2 85mm/ f 1.5, Helios 44-6 58mm/ f2.0, Pentacon 50mm/ f1.8, Spiratone 28mm/3.5, Spiratone 105mm/ 2.5, Vivitar Series 1 70-210 (Kiron) , SMC Tak 55mm/1.8, Cimko 28mm/ f2.8 Macro, Accura Supertel 105mm/ f2.4, Sun 38-90/ f3.5 Y/S Zoom, , Soligor 35-105/ f 3.5 Zoom (Tokina) , Access 28-70 P-MC / f2.8-4.2, , , Paragon 11 28mm / f2.8 Macro, Aetna Rokunar 28mm / f2.8 Macro |
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Newfie
Joined: 04 Mar 2014 Posts: 242 Location: Austin, Texas
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Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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Newfie wrote:
Thanks a bunch TrueLovedOne
I will definately take a look at the adaptalls, I heard they were very decent makers of lenses,
Regards,
Gavin _________________ Photography - What a ride
Accura Supertel 135/2.8 PRESET ,Soligor 135mm/ f2.8 Preset, Soligor 135mm/f3.5 Preset (Tokina) Soligor 135mm/2.8 Preset (Tameron) Super Lentar 35mm/ f2,8 Preset (Tokina) Auto Chinon 35/ f2.8, Ensinor 24mm/ f2.8, Ensinor 135mm/ f2.8, Helios 40-2 85mm/ f 1.5, Helios 44-6 58mm/ f2.0, Pentacon 50mm/ f1.8, Spiratone 28mm/3.5, Spiratone 105mm/ 2.5, Vivitar Series 1 70-210 (Kiron) , SMC Tak 55mm/1.8, Cimko 28mm/ f2.8 Macro, Accura Supertel 105mm/ f2.4, Sun 38-90/ f3.5 Y/S Zoom, , Soligor 35-105/ f 3.5 Zoom (Tokina) , Access 28-70 P-MC / f2.8-4.2, , , Paragon 11 28mm / f2.8 Macro, Aetna Rokunar 28mm / f2.8 Macro |
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6009 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
PhantomLord wrote: |
Hi Newfie,
Well... I don't think you had bad luck with Kiron 28-85mm, I bought one some time ago which was described as in v.good condition but it had some fungus inside as well as stuck aperture. It is, however quite decent lens to disassemble (there's help from boggys: http://www.boggys.co.uk/page54.html ). I cleaned it clear from fungus and sticky apertures and it worked like charm, but... it was such a crappy lens . I read a lot of good reviews about that lens, before I bought it and it was so so so far away behind the Tamron SP 01A that I sold it almost instantly and was left very disappointed. Don't get me wrong, I love Kiron, 70-150/4 is amazing little lens as well Kiron made Viv S1 70-210/3.5, but Kiron 28-85 didn't cut the mustard for me.
The lens I could wholeheartedly recommend is Vivitar Series 1 28-90/2.8-3.5 lens. It's in the same league as Tamron SP 01A and it's a little bit wider and longer at both ends. This 28mm instead of 35mm is very useful while using APS-C sensor.
In my opinion, you should hunt Vivitar Series 1 28-90/2.8-3.5 or if you're ok with 35mm on the wide edge - Tamron SP 01A 35-80mm/2.8-3.8 - both are great. (To be honest I still prefer Tamron, but it really is not wide enough for APS-C for me).
What's more, both are great on film and have very useful focal ranges as well.
Cheers
Mateusz |
+1 on that.
This lens is made by Komine and is truly excellent.
OH
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