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Artistic lens, Carl Zeiss Jena Biotar 58/2 ??
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 7:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For the price, I think the Helios44 is good fun.

DSC0632420140411ILCE-7-1 by jenkwang, on Flickr

I think there is a learning curve to using it on FF vs aps-c.
On aps-c, most of the mainly 'consistent' sharp portion of the lens is within the compositional area of the frame.
On FF, the usual compositional area (eg. rules of thirds area) is already affected by the swirl and loss of IQ when used wide open.
So there is a need to compose with the sharp areas of the frame.


PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mo wrote:
alaios wrote:
Hi there again.
After searching a bit more I have also found this lens

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/tags/domiron/interesting/

would you consider this one also as an artistic lens?

Regards
Alex

I would like one to find out how artistic it is but it is hard to come by, The helios would be the cheaper option.


I can strongly recommend the Domiron.
I love that lens.
Guess it was produced only for a short time because it declassed the Zeiss lenses.
This thread made me going into our garden to make a few fast non-artistic shots with my M42 Domiron on my Canon 5DII. Only cropped.




Hope to make some more next week, as I was asked to shoot some portraits.

Klaus


Last edited by exaklaus on Sun Apr 13, 2014 6:34 am; edited 1 time in total


PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Klaus,thanks for posting these,Simply Stunning.
I have only seen one Exakta Domiron on Australian ebay and the price was a little high...$200+.Thanks for confirming that there are M42 versions out their. Cool


PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2014 5:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mo wrote:
Klaus,thanks for posting these,Simply Stunning.
I have only seen one Exakta Domiron on Australian ebay and the price was a little high...$200+.Thanks for confirming that there are M42 versions out their. Cool


Well, not really, I'm afraid, it is a prototype lens.....

Klaus


PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2014 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Oh well,I was hopeful for a few hours. Very Happy


PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2014 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mo wrote:
Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Oh well,I was hopeful for a few hours. Very Happy


You can use the Exakta version....
Klaus


PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2014 6:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I only have the Pentax K-01 as my camera.


PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2014 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mo wrote:
I only have the Pentax K-01 as my camera.
Obviously the wrong choice.
Buy an Exakta Domiron and get it adapted to M42


Klaus


PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2014 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wrong camera for the Exakta Domiron, but the right one for my other M42 lenses. Very Happy One day I will pick up one of those versitile cameras that take the Exakta mount, then I will have the whole other headache of buying more lenses. Cool

What does the prototype M42 domiron look like?


PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2014 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mo wrote:
Wrong camera for the Exakta Domiron, but the right one for my other M42 lenses. Very Happy One day I will pick up one of those versitile cameras that take the Exakta mount, then I will have the whole other headache of buying more lenses. Cool

What does the prototype M42 domiron look like?


Like the Exakta mount, but without the release arm for the diaphragm. It has the diaphragm pin, like other M42 auto-lenses.

Klaus


PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2014 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the description, I won't ask anymore questions as I have taken this far enough OT. Smile


PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2016 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

exaklaus wrote:
mo wrote:
alaios wrote:
Hi there again.
After searching a bit more I have also found this lens



would you consider this one also as an artistic lens?

Regards
Alex

I would like one to find out how artistic it is but it is hard to come by, The helios would be the cheaper option.


I can strongly recommend the Domiron.
I love that lens.
Guess it was produced only for a short time because it declassed the Zeiss lenses.
This thread made me going into our garden to make a few fast non-artistic shots with my M42 Domiron on my Canon 5DII. Only cropped.




Hope to make some more next week, as I was asked to shoot some portraits.

Klaus


If it "declassed" the Zeiss lenses why would they "stop" making it? That makes no sense.


PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2016 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just bought a nice CZJ 58/2 Biotar, now I can compare it to my 0000 Helios 44, and my 44-2
http://ssli.ebayimg.com/00/s/NjYxWDcwMA==/z/TuEAAOSw9VZXOXS0/$_1.JPG