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pinholecam
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Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 7:13 am Post subject: |
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pinholecam wrote:
For the price, I think the Helios44 is good fun.
DSC0632420140411ILCE-7-1 by jenkwang, on Flickr
I think there is a learning curve to using it on FF vs aps-c.
On aps-c, most of the mainly 'consistent' sharp portion of the lens is within the compositional area of the frame.
On FF, the usual compositional area (eg. rules of thirds area) is already affected by the swirl and loss of IQ when used wide open.
So there is a need to compose with the sharp areas of the frame. |
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exaklaus
Joined: 11 Aug 2009 Posts: 1633 Location: Niederrhein, Germany
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Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 11:59 am Post subject: |
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exaklaus wrote:
mo wrote: |
I would like one to find out how artistic it is but it is hard to come by, The helios would be the cheaper option. |
I can strongly recommend the Domiron.
I love that lens.
Guess it was produced only for a short time because it declassed the Zeiss lenses.
This thread made me going into our garden to make a few fast non-artistic shots with my M42 Domiron on my Canon 5DII. Only cropped.
Hope to make some more next week, as I was asked to shoot some portraits.
Klaus _________________ my Ebay auctions
Canon 5D II,
Fuji GW690III, Fuji G617, Fujifilm X-E1
Bessaflex TM
Tachihara 4"x5"
Summilux-R 1:1,4/50
Canon FD 85mm 1:1,2
Color-Heliar 75mm F2.5 SL
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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8982 Location: Australia
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Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 11:53 pm Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
Klaus,thanks for posting these,Simply Stunning.
I have only seen one Exakta Domiron on Australian ebay and the price was a little high...$200+.Thanks for confirming that there are M42 versions out their. _________________ Moira, Moderator
Fuji XE-1,Pentax K-01,Panasonic G1,Panasonic G5,Pentax MX
Ricoh Singlex TLS,KR-5,KR-5Super,XR-10
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Auto Rikenon's 55/1.4, 1.8, 2.8... 50/1.7 Takumar 2/58 Preset Takumar 2.8/105 Auto Takumar 2.2/55, 3.5/35 Super Takumar 1.8/55...Macro Takumar F4/50... CZJ Biotar ALU M42 2/58 CZJ Tessar ALU M42 2.8/50
CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
Auto Mamiya/Sekor 1.8/55 ...Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2.8/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 200/3.5 Tamron SP500/8 Tamron SP350/5.6 Tamron SP90/2.5
Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
Canon FL 58/1.2,Canon FL85/1.8,Canon FL 100/3.5,Canon SSC 2.8/100 ,Konica AR 100/2.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5
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exaklaus
Joined: 11 Aug 2009 Posts: 1633 Location: Niederrhein, Germany
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Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2014 5:40 am Post subject: |
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exaklaus wrote:
mo wrote: |
Klaus,thanks for posting these,Simply Stunning.
I have only seen one Exakta Domiron on Australian ebay and the price was a little high...$200+.Thanks for confirming that there are M42 versions out their. |
Well, not really, I'm afraid, it is a prototype lens.....
Klaus _________________ my Ebay auctions
Canon 5D II,
Fuji GW690III, Fuji G617, Fujifilm X-E1
Bessaflex TM
Tachihara 4"x5"
Summilux-R 1:1,4/50
Canon FD 85mm 1:1,2
Color-Heliar 75mm F2.5 SL
www.autoselbstfotografie.de
www.classic-cameras-and-lenses.de |
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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8982 Location: Australia
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Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2014 6:33 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
Oh well,I was hopeful for a few hours. _________________ Moira, Moderator
Fuji XE-1,Pentax K-01,Panasonic G1,Panasonic G5,Pentax MX
Ricoh Singlex TLS,KR-5,KR-5Super,XR-10
Lenses
Auto Rikenon's 55/1.4, 1.8, 2.8... 50/1.7 Takumar 2/58 Preset Takumar 2.8/105 Auto Takumar 2.2/55, 3.5/35 Super Takumar 1.8/55...Macro Takumar F4/50... CZJ Biotar ALU M42 2/58 CZJ Tessar ALU M42 2.8/50
CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
Auto Mamiya/Sekor 1.8/55 ...Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2.8/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 200/3.5 Tamron SP500/8 Tamron SP350/5.6 Tamron SP90/2.5
Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
Canon FL 58/1.2,Canon FL85/1.8,Canon FL 100/3.5,Canon SSC 2.8/100 ,Konica AR 100/2.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5
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exaklaus
Joined: 11 Aug 2009 Posts: 1633 Location: Niederrhein, Germany
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Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2014 6:34 am Post subject: |
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exaklaus wrote:
mo wrote: |
Oh well,I was hopeful for a few hours. |
You can use the Exakta version....
Klaus _________________ my Ebay auctions
Canon 5D II,
Fuji GW690III, Fuji G617, Fujifilm X-E1
Bessaflex TM
Tachihara 4"x5"
Summilux-R 1:1,4/50
Canon FD 85mm 1:1,2
Color-Heliar 75mm F2.5 SL
www.autoselbstfotografie.de
www.classic-cameras-and-lenses.de |
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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8982 Location: Australia
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Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2014 6:38 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
I only have the Pentax K-01 as my camera. _________________ Moira, Moderator
Fuji XE-1,Pentax K-01,Panasonic G1,Panasonic G5,Pentax MX
Ricoh Singlex TLS,KR-5,KR-5Super,XR-10
Lenses
Auto Rikenon's 55/1.4, 1.8, 2.8... 50/1.7 Takumar 2/58 Preset Takumar 2.8/105 Auto Takumar 2.2/55, 3.5/35 Super Takumar 1.8/55...Macro Takumar F4/50... CZJ Biotar ALU M42 2/58 CZJ Tessar ALU M42 2.8/50
CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
Auto Mamiya/Sekor 1.8/55 ...Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2.8/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 200/3.5 Tamron SP500/8 Tamron SP350/5.6 Tamron SP90/2.5
Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
Canon FL 58/1.2,Canon FL85/1.8,Canon FL 100/3.5,Canon SSC 2.8/100 ,Konica AR 100/2.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5
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exaklaus
Joined: 11 Aug 2009 Posts: 1633 Location: Niederrhein, Germany
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Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2014 7:21 am Post subject: |
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exaklaus wrote:
mo wrote: |
I only have the Pentax K-01 as my camera. |
Obviously the wrong choice.
Buy an Exakta Domiron and get it adapted to M42
Klaus _________________ my Ebay auctions
Canon 5D II,
Fuji GW690III, Fuji G617, Fujifilm X-E1
Bessaflex TM
Tachihara 4"x5"
Summilux-R 1:1,4/50
Canon FD 85mm 1:1,2
Color-Heliar 75mm F2.5 SL
www.autoselbstfotografie.de
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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8982 Location: Australia
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Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2014 7:53 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
Wrong camera for the Exakta Domiron, but the right one for my other M42 lenses. One day I will pick up one of those versitile cameras that take the Exakta mount, then I will have the whole other headache of buying more lenses.
What does the prototype M42 domiron look like? _________________ Moira, Moderator
Fuji XE-1,Pentax K-01,Panasonic G1,Panasonic G5,Pentax MX
Ricoh Singlex TLS,KR-5,KR-5Super,XR-10
Lenses
Auto Rikenon's 55/1.4, 1.8, 2.8... 50/1.7 Takumar 2/58 Preset Takumar 2.8/105 Auto Takumar 2.2/55, 3.5/35 Super Takumar 1.8/55...Macro Takumar F4/50... CZJ Biotar ALU M42 2/58 CZJ Tessar ALU M42 2.8/50
CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
Auto Mamiya/Sekor 1.8/55 ...Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2.8/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 200/3.5 Tamron SP500/8 Tamron SP350/5.6 Tamron SP90/2.5
Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
Canon FL 58/1.2,Canon FL85/1.8,Canon FL 100/3.5,Canon SSC 2.8/100 ,Konica AR 100/2.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5
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exaklaus
Joined: 11 Aug 2009 Posts: 1633 Location: Niederrhein, Germany
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Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2014 8:33 am Post subject: |
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exaklaus wrote:
mo wrote: |
Wrong camera for the Exakta Domiron, but the right one for my other M42 lenses. One day I will pick up one of those versitile cameras that take the Exakta mount, then I will have the whole other headache of buying more lenses.
What does the prototype M42 domiron look like? |
Like the Exakta mount, but without the release arm for the diaphragm. It has the diaphragm pin, like other M42 auto-lenses.
Klaus _________________ my Ebay auctions
Canon 5D II,
Fuji GW690III, Fuji G617, Fujifilm X-E1
Bessaflex TM
Tachihara 4"x5"
Summilux-R 1:1,4/50
Canon FD 85mm 1:1,2
Color-Heliar 75mm F2.5 SL
www.autoselbstfotografie.de
www.classic-cameras-and-lenses.de |
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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8982 Location: Australia
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Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2014 11:44 pm Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
Thanks for the description, I won't ask anymore questions as I have taken this far enough OT. _________________ Moira, Moderator
Fuji XE-1,Pentax K-01,Panasonic G1,Panasonic G5,Pentax MX
Ricoh Singlex TLS,KR-5,KR-5Super,XR-10
Lenses
Auto Rikenon's 55/1.4, 1.8, 2.8... 50/1.7 Takumar 2/58 Preset Takumar 2.8/105 Auto Takumar 2.2/55, 3.5/35 Super Takumar 1.8/55...Macro Takumar F4/50... CZJ Biotar ALU M42 2/58 CZJ Tessar ALU M42 2.8/50
CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
Auto Mamiya/Sekor 1.8/55 ...Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2.8/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 200/3.5 Tamron SP500/8 Tamron SP350/5.6 Tamron SP90/2.5
Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
Canon FL 58/1.2,Canon FL85/1.8,Canon FL 100/3.5,Canon SSC 2.8/100 ,Konica AR 100/2.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5
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trevorgowe@rocketmail.com
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Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2016 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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trevorgowe@rocketmail.com wrote:
exaklaus wrote: |
mo wrote: |
I would like one to find out how artistic it is but it is hard to come by, The helios would be the cheaper option. |
I can strongly recommend the Domiron.
I love that lens.
Guess it was produced only for a short time because it declassed the Zeiss lenses.
This thread made me going into our garden to make a few fast non-artistic shots with my M42 Domiron on my Canon 5DII. Only cropped.
Hope to make some more next week, as I was asked to shoot some portraits.
Klaus |
If it "declassed" the Zeiss lenses why would they "stop" making it? That makes no sense. |
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Lightshow
Joined: 04 Nov 2011 Posts: 3669 Location: Calgary
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Lightshow wrote:
I just bought a nice CZJ 58/2 Biotar, now I can compare it to my 0000 Helios 44, and my 44-2
http://ssli.ebayimg.com/00/s/NjYxWDcwMA==/z/TuEAAOSw9VZXOXS0/$_1.JPG |
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