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!Karen
Joined: 20 Jul 2013 Posts: 837 Location: Belgium Baby
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Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 10:38 pm Post subject: Macro Yashinon Tomioka 60mm F2.8 |
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!Karen wrote:
Here is the lens:
I am having a tiny problem with it. There is a UV filter on it and I cannot get it off. I noticed it is slightly dented and probably because of that it won't move the slightest bit!!! I tried breaking the glass (the front element is very deep in) of the filter so I could cut the ring and take it off that way but even that I can't manage. Not even the slightest scratch on the thing after hitting it with numourous things. That is some strong glass in that UV filter right there
So after I spend a couple of hours abusing the UV filter to no extent,
I took 2 quick shots in the garden before it got dark and am already super impressed
Hardly needed any PP.
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hoanpham
Joined: 31 Jan 2011 Posts: 2575
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Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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hoanpham wrote:
beautiful shots.
you may need the dent tool to straighten up, before unscrew.
breaking glass sounds like a good idea. |
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Nordentro
Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 4713 Location: Lillehammer, Norway
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Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 10:51 pm Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
Very nice indeed! This is a superb macro lens, well known and sougth after, congratz!
PS: Put a rubber band around the filter ring and push a little bit towards the lens when you unscrew the filter _________________ Lars | Manuellfokus.no |
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!Karen
Joined: 20 Jul 2013 Posts: 837 Location: Belgium Baby
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Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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!Karen wrote:
I tried that with a rubber band first, then I undented the filter ring and tried again. It doesn't move at all unfortunately.
Once I got a little more time again I am going to put tape all over the filter glass and try to break the glas again more forcefully _________________ FLICKR PHOTOSTREAM |
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scsambrook
Joined: 29 Mar 2009 Posts: 2167 Location: Glasgow Scotland
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Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 11:42 pm Post subject: |
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scsambrook wrote:
Before you break the filter glass, look for a good filter wrench that will give you both grip and leverage. Then, before you use it, tap lightly all around the circumference of the filter using something metallic (but not a hammer!). Then using the wrench, make as though "tightening" the filter before unscrewing it sharply. Unless the front of the lens has been dented into the filter, that should break the friction. But be sure to support the front of the lens as you don't want to strain it. _________________ Stephen
Equipment: Pentax DSLR for casual shooting, Lumix G1 and Fuji XE-1 for playing with old lenses, and Leica M8 because I still like the optical rangefinder system. |
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Pontus
Joined: 18 Dec 2011 Posts: 1471 Location: Jakobstad, Finland
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Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 12:03 am Post subject: |
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Pontus wrote:
Just a thought. When/if trying to break the glass, maybe you could use one of those pointy hammers that they keep in buses for emergency use. I've also seen spring loaded window breakers which could be more safe (thinking of avoiding breaking the front lens). _________________ Follow this link for my FOR SALE list (partially updated 19.11.2015) |
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invisible
Joined: 06 Jun 2013 Posts: 343
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Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 1:07 am Post subject: |
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invisible wrote:
Here's a video with a few suggestions, including the rubber band: http://youtu.be/qsSds4z2Ruw
Myself, I typically use one of those rubber disks used to open jars of tomato sauce – it works like a charm every time.
By the way, that first image is fantastic, showcasing the lens' ability to produce a 3D effect. |
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Himself
Joined: 01 Mar 2007 Posts: 3216 Location: Montreal
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Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 1:56 am Post subject: |
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Himself wrote:
Before attempting that glass breaking, cover it with gaffer tape, or masking tape and then use one of those pointy tools. That way you avoid damaging the optics under the filter.
I would try also to drip some lighter fuel on the rim. _________________ Moderator Himself |
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Layer-cake
Joined: 18 Mar 2013 Posts: 560 Location: Cape Town
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Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 6:49 am Post subject: |
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Layer-cake wrote:
have you tried using a pair of pliers with a broad head and twisting the edge of the ring? remember glass is weakest on the edges so you should get a spider crack in the glass if you can get it to bend.
you could also maybe use a dremel with one of those micro disks to cut into the ring to get to the retainer ring on the filter and the you should be able to get the glass out. |
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TrueLoveOne
Joined: 30 Sep 2012 Posts: 1840 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 7:14 am Post subject: |
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TrueLoveOne wrote:
Pontus wrote: |
Just a thought. When/if trying to break the glass, maybe you could use one of those pointy hammers that they keep in buses for emergency use. I've also seen spring loaded window breakers which could be more safe (thinking of avoiding breaking the front lens). |
Exactly my thoughts! You need a pointy piece of equipment, or use a sharp steel nail, hold it to the center of the glass and hit it one time firmly. Using tape to "catch" splinters is indeed a very good idea!
Oh, btw: VERY nice shots!! Congrats on that find, superb lens! _________________ My Flickr photostream: http://www.flickr.com/photos/chantalrene/
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!Karen
Joined: 20 Jul 2013 Posts: 837 Location: Belgium Baby
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Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 8:37 am Post subject: |
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!Karen wrote:
I appreciated all your advice, thank you so much. I tried going at it with so many tools already but you gave me a couple more ideas I'll definitely try! _________________ FLICKR PHOTOSTREAM |
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Davichin
Joined: 15 Jan 2014 Posts: 33 Location: Canary Islands
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Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 9:09 am Post subject: |
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Davichin wrote:
Maybe you can apply some penetrating oil like WD40 and let it work for some ours before trying to unscrew again:
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penetrating_oil _________________ http://www.flickr.com/photos/67522368@N00/
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vlousada
Joined: 11 Dec 2010 Posts: 345 Location: Portugal
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Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 10:12 am Post subject: |
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vlousada wrote:
Not sure if is good idea (and even if it will work) using WD40 oil...
With right tools and extreme care, I would go for breaking the filter glass, so then the unscrew shall be more simple. _________________ Regards,
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Nordentro
Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 4713 Location: Lillehammer, Norway
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Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 10:18 am Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
You can also try the freezer. Put it in a zip bag. If the metals shrink different from eachother they might separate easely if you are lucky _________________ Lars | Manuellfokus.no |
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!Karen
Joined: 20 Jul 2013 Posts: 837 Location: Belgium Baby
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Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 10:35 am Post subject: |
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!Karen wrote:
I am not too confident putting oil or other liquid on it as the aparture rings are very closeby.
I've never heard of putting lenses in the freezer
I think I'll go try break the glass after taping it up to break the tension on the ring. If then it doesn't screw off I can easily cut through the ring without damaging the lens. Good thing that front element is so far into the lens. I wouldn't have dared to touch it otherwise! _________________ FLICKR PHOTOSTREAM |
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RAART
Joined: 10 Oct 2012 Posts: 499 Location: Oakville, ON, Canada
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Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 10:52 am Post subject: |
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RAART wrote:
I had the same problem with one lens and with help of plumber pliers and brute force managed to unscrew the filter without even breaking a filter glass... Just make sure that plumber pliers only get grip on the filter and not bellow and just turn it in proper direction and if it slightly sliding just tighten a grip a bit and still use brute force. Good luck! _________________
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Layer-cake
Joined: 18 Mar 2013 Posts: 560 Location: Cape Town
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Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 10:54 am Post subject: |
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Layer-cake wrote:
you could also use a metal punch, the tool they use to make a small dent in metal when they need a point exactly where to drill into.
it has a spring mechanism inside that can deliver a large deal of force over a short distance. |
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!Karen
Joined: 20 Jul 2013 Posts: 837 Location: Belgium Baby
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Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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!Karen wrote:
THE UV FILTER IS REMOVED
I left my brother to take care of it, he has more muscle then I do. After numerous of tries he eventually succeeded to get the filter off by using 2 cut open balloons, one to have a grip on the lens, and one to have a grip on the filter! It is strange that the filter just suddenly 'let loose' after x amount attempts. That last try it just screwed off like it was nothing!
I am super ecstatic now haha! _________________ FLICKR PHOTOSTREAM |
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Nordentro
Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 4713 Location: Lillehammer, Norway
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Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 2:18 pm Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
Congratz _________________ Lars | Manuellfokus.no |
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Pontus
Joined: 18 Dec 2011 Posts: 1471 Location: Jakobstad, Finland
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Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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Pontus wrote:
Nice to hear that this story had a happy ending. Looking forward to some more pictures! _________________ Follow this link for my FOR SALE list (partially updated 19.11.2015) |
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Igor
Joined: 13 Jan 2014 Posts: 520 Location: United States and Ukraine, Europe
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Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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Igor wrote:
very sharp indeed! congrats. |
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ducdao
Joined: 19 Jun 2010 Posts: 288 Location: Montreal, Canada
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Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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ducdao wrote:
Congrats! I have the same lens but under Mamiya Sekor brand. Great lens nonetheless. You just reminded me to use it more _________________ Duc
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RAART
Joined: 10 Oct 2012 Posts: 499 Location: Oakville, ON, Canada
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Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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RAART wrote:
!Karen wrote: |
THE UV FILTER IS REMOVED
I left my brother to take care of it, he has more muscle then I do. After numerous of tries he eventually succeeded to get the filter off by using 2 cut open balloons, one to have a grip on the lens, and one to have a grip on the filter! It is strange that the filter just suddenly 'let loose' after x amount attempts. That last try it just screwed off like it was nothing!
I am super ecstatic now haha! |
As I said "brute force"... _________________
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Do you have Pentax-A or F or FA primes and like to trade?
Here is the list what I have to trade/sale:
Primes: - Kiron 28mm f2 (C/Y); Vivitar 28mm f2.5 Auto (FD); Minolta MD 50mm f2 (incl. adapter to m4/3); Miranda Auto 35mm f2.8 EC (incl. adapter to m4/3); Miranda Auto 135mm f2.8 EC (incl. adapter to m4/3);
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hifisapi
Joined: 25 Sep 2012 Posts: 941 Location: USA
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Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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hifisapi wrote:
are the filter threads on the lens undamaged? _________________ ===========
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J. Smith
Joined: 27 Apr 2008 Posts: 50
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Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 3:09 am Post subject: |
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J. Smith wrote:
Congrats ! I have that lens , you will love it ! |
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