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inombrable
Joined: 20 Mar 2012 Posts: 545 Location: Salamanca, Mexico
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Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 11:18 pm Post subject: Lens identification |
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inombrable wrote:
Hello, I was wondering if any of you could identify the brand of this lens, as shown in the pictures there is no nameplate or serial number on it, it is a 28 mm f/2.8. Can´t even remember now how I got it.
In the Auto/Manual switch the A is in red and the M in green.
Some quick shots with the lens, no PP at all just converted the raw image with capture one
f/2.8
f/4
f/4.5
f/5.6
f/8
f/11
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Mos6502
Joined: 20 Jun 2011 Posts: 961 Location: Austin
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Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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Mos6502 wrote:
It looks like a Sun or Chinon lens to me. It could have had any number of brands on it originally. |
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philslizzy
Joined: 07 Aug 2012 Posts: 4748 Location: Cheshire, England
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Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 12:47 am Post subject: |
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philslizzy wrote:
Bell & Howell perhaps _________________ Hero in the 'messin-with-cameras-for-the-hell-of-it department'. Official. |
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casualcollector
Joined: 01 Aug 2008 Posts: 748 Location: Spaced out on Florida's Space Coast
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Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 1:48 am Post subject: |
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casualcollector wrote:
I concur on the Sun origin. It could have had any of a dozen or more brands. _________________ In Search Of "R" Serial Soligors
Found: 135/2.8 #R407660, 200/4 #R405526, 300/5.5 #R411127 |
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Basilisk
Joined: 21 Mar 2013 Posts: 356 Location: UK
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Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 10:22 am Post subject: |
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Basilisk wrote:
I have a "Sunagor" (Soligor?) 28mm f2.8 M42 that looks very similar. The ink is different colours but the layout is identical.
It also has a slightly hazy/flary low contrast look that yours has - not sure it has any useful coatings. It might have some use as a flare-monster effects lens, but I need to try it out properly.
Not a lot of info out there on Sunagor, but as people have pointed out, these cheap lens designs got hawked out under all sorts of brands.
I would say this is a 60s/70s model. There seems to be a later (1980s?) Soligor version with multicoating which looks like it might be a much better lens. |
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Pancolart
Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 3693 Location: Slovenia, EU
Expire: 2013-11-18
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Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 10:57 am Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
casualcollector wrote: |
I concur on the Sun origin. It could have had any of a dozen or more brands. |
+1
Always check well for condensation haze before testing and making conclusions. In good shape this SUN is comparable to pre-RMC Tokina version (big front glass design). _________________ ---------------------------------
The Peculiar Apparatus Of Victorian Steampunk Photography: 100+ Genuine Steampunk Camera Designs https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B92829NS |
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ForenSeil
Joined: 15 Apr 2011 Posts: 2726 Location: Kiel, Germany.
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Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 11:49 am Post subject: |
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ForenSeil wrote:
My bet would be Chinon, but Sun is also very likely
Is it hazy? _________________ I'm not a collector, I'm a tester
My camera: Sony A7+Zeiss Sonnar 55/1.8
Current favourite lenses (I have many more):
A few macro-Tominons, Samyang 12/2.8, Noritsu 50.7/9.5, Rodagon 105/5.6 on bellows, Samyang 135/2, Nikon ED 180/2.8, Leitz Elmar-R 250/4, Celestron C8 2000mm F10
Most wanted: Samyang 24/1.4, Samyang 35/1.4, Nikon 200/2 ED
My Blog: http://picturechemistry.own-blog.com/
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Pancolart
Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 3693 Location: Slovenia, EU
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Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 12:16 pm Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
ForenSeil wrote: |
My bet would be Chinon |
CHINON did not make lenses at least until PK mount. A while ago i opened this topic:
http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic.php?t=39944
Most of them would now be recognized as Tomioka, SUN, Tokina, Cima Kogaku, Cosina and Tamron made. _________________ ---------------------------------
The Peculiar Apparatus Of Victorian Steampunk Photography: 100+ Genuine Steampunk Camera Designs https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B92829NS |
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caspert79
Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Posts: 2926 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
It seems to be not very sharp: perhaps it is focusing beyond infinity? Otherwise you would expect sharper pictures at small aperture? |
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inombrable
Joined: 20 Mar 2012 Posts: 545 Location: Salamanca, Mexico
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Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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inombrable wrote:
Thanks for all the replies,
I know it is very difficult to tell which brand this lens is, I was just wondering if someone had one exactly like this.
Mos6502,
I thought it could be chinon at first but I had several of those before and the barrel design is different (silver bezels on the focusing ring for example, leatherette instead of diamond plastic grip sometimes, etc), also I have googled for images both for chinon and sun 28 mm lenses and cant find one that looks too much to this one.
philslizzy,
These are the ones looking more similar than this one (Bell and Howell), specially for the green on aperture numbers and going from higher to lower aperture (left to right) but again from the pictures I get from internet differ on the big front element of the one I have, osawa where similar too but the aperture numbers where from right to left compared to this one.
caspert79
It might be my fault, light was not great (very odd being cloudy in this part of the world) and did it in hurry (lazy) as the lens can deliver much better images than the ones I posted (not great tough).
Again thanks for the replies, lets see if someone else has the same lens in the forum, cheers,
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Pancolart
Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 3693 Location: Slovenia, EU
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Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
Yes, i had three like this. SUN, again. _________________ ---------------------------------
The Peculiar Apparatus Of Victorian Steampunk Photography: 100+ Genuine Steampunk Camera Designs https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B92829NS |
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15685
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Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Is the glass clean? It looks in the samples like it has some haze, or at least, that's how the performance seems to be.
Most of these third party 2.8/28s are poor, not getting acceptably sharp until f5.6. If your camera can mount one, I highly recommend the Minolta 3.5/28 and 2.8/28, very cheap but superb. The Konica 3.5/28 is excellent too. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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