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asterinex
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 Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 9:48 am Post subject: C/Y Vario-Sonnar 35-70mm f3.4 vs Sonnar 85mm f2.8 |
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asterinex wrote:
Maybe a stupid question, but since they are both sonnars, would the output of the Vario-Sonnar at 70mm f3.5 be similar to the Sonnar 85mm at f3.5 ?
I have the zoom, does it make sense to by the 85mm prime ? |
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The VS 35-70mm is very sharp and contrasty from wide open, as is the Sonnar 85/2.8. The VS is more prone to vignetting wide open though (as far as I remember), and obviously has a shorter focal length. Both lenses are stunning either way 
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asterinex
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| Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 12:03 pm Post subject: Re: C/Y Vario-Sonnar 35-70mm f3.5 vs Sonnar 85mm f2.8 |
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asterinex wrote:
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Maybe a stupid question, but since they are both sonnars, would the output of the Vario-Sonnar at 70mm f3.5 be similar to the Sonnar 85mm f2.8 at f3.5 ?
I have the zoom, does it make sense to by the 85mm prime ? |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Even if both lenses are excellent - which they doubtlessly are - it doesn't make a lot sense to buy the 2.8/85 when you already have the 35-70.
The difference between 70mm / f3.5 and 85mm / f2.8 is somewhat marginal.
Either try to get the 1.4/85 or the 2.8/135. That would make more sense. (I'm a big fan of focal lens doubling.  )
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
+1, the 85/1.4 is incredible 
BTW, the 85/2.8 is about an inch shorter than the zoom, if that's of any help
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CBokeh wrote:
Sorry if I'm being picky, but aren't you talking about the C/Y F3.4 zoom? There is a 3.5-5.6 Contax G zoom... |
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asterinex
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asterinex wrote:
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| Sorry if I'm being picky, but aren't you talking about the C/Y F3.4 zoom? There is a 3.5-5.6 Contax G zoom... |
Yes, it is indeed the 3.4f zoom. Sorry for the confusion.
Some interesting thoughts here. Well the 85mm f1.4 is too big and heavy for my taste. I have the CZJ Pancolar 80mm which I believe has similar rendering, but is much smaller and lighter. |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
I've edited the title to avoid confusion
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CBokeh wrote:
| asterinex wrote: |
| CBokeh wrote: |
| Sorry if I'm being picky, but aren't you talking about the C/Y F3.4 zoom? There is a 3.5-5.6 Contax G zoom... |
Yes, it is indeed the 3.4f zoom. Sorry for the confusion. |
Always good to confirm!
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Some interesting thoughts here. Well the 85mm f1.4 is too big and heavy for my taste. I have the CZJ Pancolar 80mm which I believe has similar rendering, but is much smaller and lighter. |
What camera body are you planning to use? Crop or full frame? |
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Attila wrote:
| asterinex wrote: |
| CBokeh wrote: |
| Sorry if I'm being picky, but aren't you talking about the C/Y F3.4 zoom? There is a 3.5-5.6 Contax G zoom... |
Yes, it is indeed the 3.4f zoom. Sorry for the confusion.
Some interesting thoughts here. Well the 85mm f1.4 is too big and heavy for my taste. I have the CZJ Pancolar 80mm which I believe has similar rendering, but is much smaller and lighter. |
I think too Pancolar 80 is better lens from every aspects than Planar 85mm f1.4 , zoom probably big and heavy, I have Sonnar 85mm f2.8
actually my favorite lens. If you are fine with heavier, bigger lens your zoom probably perfectly fine, except if you look on all picture thin DOF as majority of people
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asterinex
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| Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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asterinex wrote:
| Attila wrote: |
| asterinex wrote: |
| CBokeh wrote: |
| Sorry if I'm being picky, but aren't you talking about the C/Y F3.4 zoom? There is a 3.5-5.6 Contax G zoom... |
Yes, it is indeed the 3.4f zoom. Sorry for the confusion.
Some interesting thoughts here. Well the 85mm f1.4 is too big and heavy for my taste. I have the CZJ Pancolar 80mm which I believe has similar rendering, but is much smaller and lighter. |
I think too Pancolar 80 is better lens from every aspects than Planar 85mm f1.4 , zoom probably big and heavy, I have Sonnar 85mm f2.8
actually my favorite lens. If you are fine with heavier, bigger lens your zoom probably perfectly fine, except if you look on all picture thin DOF as majority of people |
The zoom is indeed big and heavy. That's a real minus.
I'm using Fuji X-E1. If I find a good copy of the sonnar 85 at a reasonable price, I buy it. But I'm not in a hurry.
For me very thin DOF is not really that important. |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
The zoom is actually pretty light at 475g, the 85/1.4 is actually 120g heavier
I have yet to find a portrait lens better than the Planar 85/1.4 (subjectively)...
http://forum.mflenses.com/i-love-my-planar-85-1-4-t40255.html
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Orio wrote:
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I have yet to find a portrait lens better than the Planar 85/1.4 (subjectively)...
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Then we are two subjects
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
Niiiiice 
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asterinex
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| Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 6:47 am Post subject: |
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asterinex wrote:
| ManualFocus-G wrote: |
I have yet to find a portrait lens better than the Planar 85/1.4 (subjectively)... |
The CZJ Pancolar 80mm f1.8 maybe 
@Orio : Terrific portrait ! The planar is indeed one of the best in it's class. |
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LucisPictor wrote:
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The zoom is indeed big and heavy. That's a real minus.
I'm using Fuji X-E1. If I find a good copy of the sonnar 85 at a reasonable price, I buy it. But I'm not in a hurry.
For me very thin DOF is not really that important. |
In that case, you should consider a Voigtländer Color-Heliar 2.5/75. That's an extremely well built rangefinder lens.
Compact and an nothing but excellent performer! Fits well to the X-E1.
You can find them for about €300,-.
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asterinex wrote:
Thx for the tip! |
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