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caspert79
Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Posts: 2928 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:51 pm Post subject: Best 50/55/60 mm macro's? |
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caspert79 wrote:
Using a 55/2.8 Vivitar Macro at the moment, I'm curious to test some other MF macro's in the 50/55/60mm range. What do you think are the best ones? |
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asterinex
Joined: 04 Nov 2012 Posts: 311
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Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 4:22 pm Post subject: Re: Best 50/55/60 mm macro's? |
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asterinex wrote:
Fuji X-E1 and Olympus OM Macro 50mm f3.5 no pp
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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7554 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
Tried vivitar 55/2.8 and Tomioka 60/2.8. The Tomioka is far better than the vivitar. I of the best will be the S-Planars and the new Makro-Planars which I never tried. _________________ https://lensfever.com/
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SonicScot
Joined: 01 Dec 2011 Posts: 2698 Location: Scottish Highlands
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Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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SonicScot wrote:
My vote goes to the Nikon Micro 55/3.5, one of the sharpest lenses I've ever seen. _________________ Gary
Currently active gear....
Sony a7
E-M1 Mkll
Rubinar 1000/10 + 2x matched extender
Tamron 500/8 55BB
Sigma 100-300/4
Vivitar Series 1.... 200/3, 70-210/3.5 (V1 by Kiron), 135/2.3, 105/2.5 macro, 90/2.5 macro (Bokina), 90-180/4.5 Flat Field Macro, 28-90mm f/2.8-3.5
Carl Zeiss.... 180/2.8, 135/3.5, 85/1.4, 35/2.4 Flektagon, 21/2.8 Distagon
Nikon.... 55/3.5 micro, 50/1.2
Elicar 90/2.5 V-HQ Macro
Zhongyi Speedmaster 85/1.2
Jupiter-9 85/2
Helios.... 58/2 44-3
Hartblei 45/3.5 Super-Rotator TS-PC
Zenitar 16/2.8 fisheye
Samyang 8/3.5 fisheye
Nodal Ninja 4, Neewer leveling tripod base
Flickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/gazsus/ Website http://garianphotography.co.uk/ |
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caspert79
Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Posts: 2928 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
What about the macro Takumars, any experience with those? |
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SonicScot
Joined: 01 Dec 2011 Posts: 2698 Location: Scottish Highlands
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Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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SonicScot wrote:
caspert79 wrote: |
What about the macro Takumars, any experience with those? |
Not me, in that focal range I found the Vivitar 55/2.8 very good but the Nikon took top prize. _________________ Gary
Currently active gear....
Sony a7
E-M1 Mkll
Rubinar 1000/10 + 2x matched extender
Tamron 500/8 55BB
Sigma 100-300/4
Vivitar Series 1.... 200/3, 70-210/3.5 (V1 by Kiron), 135/2.3, 105/2.5 macro, 90/2.5 macro (Bokina), 90-180/4.5 Flat Field Macro, 28-90mm f/2.8-3.5
Carl Zeiss.... 180/2.8, 135/3.5, 85/1.4, 35/2.4 Flektagon, 21/2.8 Distagon
Nikon.... 55/3.5 micro, 50/1.2
Elicar 90/2.5 V-HQ Macro
Zhongyi Speedmaster 85/1.2
Jupiter-9 85/2
Helios.... 58/2 44-3
Hartblei 45/3.5 Super-Rotator TS-PC
Zenitar 16/2.8 fisheye
Samyang 8/3.5 fisheye
Nodal Ninja 4, Neewer leveling tripod base
Flickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/gazsus/ Website http://garianphotography.co.uk/ |
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Aanything
Joined: 27 Aug 2011 Posts: 2201 Location: Piacenza, Italy
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Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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Aanything wrote:
I have had the super takumar 4/50, and the Mamiya Macro Sekor 2.8/60 (which should be made by tomioka), and here too, the mamiya wins hands down (besides going natively to 1:1).
I also like it very much for non-macro use.
Here's a couple of samples:
and some more here _________________ C&C and editing of my pics are always welcome
Samples from my lenses
My gear
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simbon4o
Joined: 19 Dec 2011 Posts: 390 Location: Bulgaria
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Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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simbon4o wrote:
This tomioka looks very nice. I have the Micro 55 2.8 AIS - great lens!!! The sharpest 2.8-5.6 lens ever tried and seen! Also have very nice smooth defocus and astonishing contrast and colors! _________________ 10-300мм 4.0 - 1.2 - 4.5 NIKON&Sony bodies / Sony 10-18, Pentax 28 2.8 II, CZJ 35 2.4, Nikkor DX 35 1.8, Samyang 35 1.4, KMZ 50 1.7, FDn 50 1.2 L, Nikkor 55 2.8, Rokkor 58 1.2, Soligor 85 1.8 Preset, Samyang 85 1.4, Canon FDn 85 1.2 L, Tokina AT-X 90 2.5, Canon FDn 135mm 2.0, Nikkor 180 2.8 ED, Tair 300 4.5
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Jeff Zen
Joined: 17 Jun 2009 Posts: 262 Location: Northwest USA
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Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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Jeff Zen wrote:
I bought the 55/2.8 Vivitar Macro in PK mount for K20D and thought it was pretty mediocre so I sold it. Then recently I bought another one in Konica AR mount for use on NEX and it is wonderful.
It doesn't even seem like the same lens. I don't know if this is due to copy variation or maybe it just works better in the Konica mount on the NEX.
The SMC Macro-Takumar 50mm f4 is slow but is much more compact and has much nicer bokeh than your vivitar. It also has a auto/manual switch. It's 1:2 though. I think it's a great lens. |
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Nordentro
Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 4713 Location: Lillehammer, Norway
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Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
Aanything wrote: |
I have had the super takumar 4/50, and the Mamiya Macro Sekor 2.8/60 (which should be made by tomioka), and here too, the mamiya wins hands down (besides going natively to 1:1).
I also like it very much for non-macro use. |
Agree, I have both of them too. If you don`t need 1:1, look for the Volna 9. It renders better than the Super Takumar IMO _________________ Lars | Manuellfokus.no |
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donald dump
Joined: 11 Nov 2012 Posts: 25 Location: eu
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Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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donald dump wrote:
Short manual macros I´ve tried are om zuiko 50, vivitar 55/2.8 komine, md-rokkor 50, yashica 50/4, hexanon 55/3.5. I liked hexanon is really something, but vivitar is not bad either. Ok, all are very good, but those two were mostly used. |
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Lightshow
Joined: 04 Nov 2011 Posts: 3669 Location: Calgary
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Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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Lightshow wrote:
I like my Canon FD SSC 50/3.5 its quite good.
Both OM's are real good, the Nikkor has a good reputation, I really like what I've seen from the Topcor 58/3.5 _________________ A Manual Focus Junky...
One photographers junk lens is an artists favorite tool.
My lens list
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lightshow-photography/ |
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caspert79
Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Posts: 2928 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
I think I'll go for the Nikkor 55/3.5. It's easy to find one, and prices are reasonable. And apparently a solid performer. |
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WolverineX
Joined: 19 Apr 2009 Posts: 1694 Location: Zagreb , Croatia , Europe
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Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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WolverineX wrote:
here you have samples i made with my macro lenses in 50-60mm range:
http://forum.mflenses.com/wolverinex-testing-my-lenses-series-link-list-t39524.html
following lenses are there:
EBC Fujinon macro 55mm/3.5,
Industar 61 L/Z 50mm/2.8,
Macro Takumar 50mm/4, (1:1)
Super Macro Takumar 50mm/4,
MC Macro Rokkor-QF 50mm/3.5,
Micro-Nikkor 55mm 3.5,
Olympus 50mm/2 macro,
Olympus 50mm/3.5 macro,
Panagor 55mm 2.8 macro, (1:1, same as vivitar 55mm/2.
Volna-9 50mm/2.8,
Yashinon Tomioka 60mm 2.8 (1:1) _________________ my tools:Oly E-M5 + 45mm/1.8 + Oly E-520 + 12-60 + 14-42 + 70-300 + Sigma 105mm + FL-50R + EC20 + SRF-11 ring flash
http://forum.mflenses.com/wolverinex-testing-my-lenses-series-link-list-t39524.html |
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cooltouch
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 9097 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
Years ago, when I shot Canon FD exclusively, I liked my FD 50/3.5 a lot, but I didn't have anything to compare it to then. Now I have a 55mm f/3.5 Micro Nikkor, which I have compared to other macro lenses and my conclusion is that the old Pre-AI 55mm f/3.5 Micro Nikkor is a superbly sharp optic.
I compared it to the Tamron SP 90mm f/2.5 and the legendary Vivitar 105mm f'2.5 made by Kiron. It easily bettered the much vaunted Kiron-built Vivitar, and hung tough with the Tamron 90, which is another amazingly sharp lens.
I use my 55mm Micro Nikkor for duplicating slides with my SLR and I am satisfied that I'm getting image quality that surpasses my Camera's sensor's ability to collect information.
This is a 100% crop of an image I took with my EOS XS (1000D) @ 10.1mp. Click on it to see it full-size. The camera had been set to ISO 400, which is very noisy for this camera, so other than cropping, the only post processing I did was to run PSP's "One Step Noise Removal" routine on the image. Sometimes this reduces sharpness, but it doesn't seem to have affected the image this time. Note the delicate extensions these flowers shoot out, located in the bottom right quadrant of the image.
The next two images are engravings on the face of an old Zippo lighter that my father carried in Korea during the conflict there. They are 100% crops. I did not attempt to keep the crops within 1600 pixels, but the forums's software resized the images so they're okay for viewing. Click on them to see them full size. These two images were taken with the same EOS DSLR, but the ISO was set to 100, so all I did to them was crop. Note the tiny, invisible to the naked eye scratches and chips in the metal that this lens reveals. The 55 Micro Nikkor was set to f/8 for these two images, I don't recall what it was set to for the one of the flowers.
One of the great things about this lens is that the old ones like mine can often be found on eBay for really good prices. More bang for the buck than any other lens I can think of. _________________ Michael
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mfkita
Joined: 29 Jul 2007 Posts: 222
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Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 12:59 am Post subject: |
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mfkita wrote:
Nikon makes great micro lenses....I've had both 55s (2.8/3.5) and would highly recommend both (with the warning that they do have issues with drying focusing lubricant)....
I ended up with the 60/2.8 AF-D Nikkor only because it came to me cheap with no AF and thus not easily "flipable' ...surprisingly the focusing is very smooth, and I like that it's a bit larger than the 55s....and it's plenty sharp...okay it's not MF, but it works great as one. _________________ I favor the simple shot...and uncomplicated technology that won't distract me from seeing it...
NIKON D610, Canon 30D/450D/s90/A570is: Canon 35/2, 50/1.8 MKI, 18-55IS, 28-105/3.5-4.5, 70-210/3.5-4.5; MF Nikkors 50/2K, 50/1.4AIS, 60/2.8 Micro, 85/1.8-K (AI'd), 135/2.8K, 135/2.8Q.C, 180/2.8ED, 200/4Q (AI-cut), 200/4AIS, 300/4.5-H (AI'd), Olympus 24/2.8, Vivitar 28/2, Vivitar S1 70-210/3.5 and S1 28-90;Tamron sp90/2.5; (and 28-85 AF nikkor), 35mm Nikon F, FM, FE2/MD12 drive |
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sceptic
Joined: 01 Jun 2013 Posts: 255
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Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 6:12 am Post subject: |
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sceptic wrote:
Another vote for the micro-Nikkor (55 2.8 in my case). Sharp even for a macro lens, with great bokeh (which I think is very important). I compared it to a Canon FL 50 3.5 macro, which didn't stand a chance. Sharpness, contrast and color saturation were all better with the Nikkor. It even runs close with my Vivitar Series 1 90 2.5, which is no small task... If anything, the Nikkor beats the Vivitar on flare resistance. I can not recommend the micro-Nikkor highly enough. It's one of very few of my lenses I will never part with. _________________ Sony A7R and wildly varying flora of lenses |
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RAART
Joined: 10 Oct 2012 Posts: 499 Location: Oakville, ON, Canada
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Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 6:44 am Post subject: |
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RAART wrote:
I have OM 50mm F3.5 Macro + all OM ext. tubes (3pcs) and Tamron 90mm F2.5 52BB + Tamron ext. tube to 1:1 which goes with 90mm and been highly satisfied with both of them. They are very sharp lenses with lovely colors/rendering. Didn't feel a need for another macro lens. Do not know if you can get any better then those two unless you are willing to spend $$$$ and even then differences are not marginal.
Highly recommended. _________________
Camera: Pentax K3
FOR SALE:
Do you have Pentax-A or F or FA primes and like to trade?
Here is the list what I have to trade/sale:
Primes: - Kiron 28mm f2 (C/Y); Vivitar 28mm f2.5 Auto (FD); Minolta MD 50mm f2 (incl. adapter to m4/3); Miranda Auto 35mm f2.8 EC (incl. adapter to m4/3); Miranda Auto 135mm f2.8 EC (incl. adapter to m4/3);
Zoom Lenses:
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hoanpham
Joined: 31 Jan 2011 Posts: 2575
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Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 6:49 am Post subject: |
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hoanpham wrote:
What about Canon MP-E 65mm f/2.8 ? Any experience?
I am prefer 100mm macro range or longer or anything enlarger more than 1:1.
100mm 1:1 with 2x, 200mm with 2x, tubes, 20mm reverse... flash ok. |
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caspert79
Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Posts: 2928 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 10:25 am Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
Thanks a lot guys, plenty of useful information! |
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Pontus
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Pontus
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martinsmith99
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 6943 Location: S Glos, UK
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Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 12:07 pm Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
I've got the pre AI Micro Nikkor 55/3.5 and it's pretty good. I wouldn't say amazing and it's only 1:2 reproduction, so not really a macro lens. _________________ Casual attendance these days |
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 12:38 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
sceptic wrote: |
Another vote for the micro-Nikkor (55 2.8 in my case). Sharp even for a macro lens, with great bokeh (which I think is very important). I compared it to a Canon FL 50 3.5 macro, which didn't stand a chance. Sharpness, contrast and color saturation were all better with the Nikkor. It even runs close with my Vivitar Series 1 90 2.5, which is no small task... If anything, the Nikkor beats the Vivitar on flare resistance. I can not recommend the micro-Nikkor highly enough. It's one of very few of my lenses I will never part with. |
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I have the 3.5/55 but I think all your comments also apply to the 3.5 version. I'll never part with mine, great on film and digital. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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Excalibur
Joined: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 5019 Location: UK
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Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 12:40 pm Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
The Vivitar 55mm f2.8 Macro is good on film...... and it's worth remembering;- as 99.9% of 35mm film shots shown here are low scan, you should get better detailed results on a good digital camera.
F16 aperture Kodak gold
Probably f5.6, Kodak gold
_________________ Canon A1, AV1, T70 & T90, EOS 300 and EOS300v, Chinon CE and CP-7M. Contax 139, Fuji STX-2, Konica Autoreflex TC, FS-1, FT-1, Minolta X-700, X-300, XD-11, SRT101b, Nikon EM, FM, F4, F90X, Olympus OM2, Pentax S3, Spotmatic, Pentax ME super, Praktica TL 5B, & BC1, , Ricoh KR10super, Yashica T5D, Bronica Etrs, Mamiya RB67 pro AND drum roll:- a Sony Nex 3
.........past gear Tele Rolleiflex and Rollei SL66.
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