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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15685
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Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 12:10 am Post subject: The best old Nikkor primes |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
I really love my old Nikkor-N 2.8/24 and Micro-Nikkor 3.5/55 so I'm thinking of collecting some other old Nikkor primes as I see them cheap.
Which are great like the 2.8/24 and 3.5/55, are there any that are best avoided?
I read the Nikkor-H 2/50 is great, what about the Nikkor-P 2.5/105?
Ken Rockwell says the 3.5/135 is sharper and better than the 2.8/135, he also says the 2.8/28 is 'remarkable' and better than the older 3.5/28, is he right? (I never trust his word without verification). _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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fermy
Joined: 17 Feb 2012 Posts: 2877
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Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 12:50 am Post subject: |
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fermy wrote:
The only old Nikkor prime that I've used is Nikkor-N 35/1.4 and it is great, but large and heavy. http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic,p,1242685.html Highly recommended if you can get it for reasonable money. _________________ Many lenses and some film bodies for sale here: http://forum.mflenses.com/canon-fd-minolta-md-c-mounts-m42-pentax-and-more-t50465.html
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15685
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Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 12:53 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
I doubt I'll be able to afford that one, but a Nikkor-O 2/35 would be nice if I can find one cheap. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57849 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 1:38 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Usually all okay, I did try many , no dog, no spectacular either. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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anscochrome
Joined: 23 Dec 2010 Posts: 115 Location: Omaha, NE
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Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 3:15 am Post subject: |
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anscochrome wrote:
Ian,
Since you are a fan of Sonnar look (from reading previous posts), a 105mm F 2.5 Nikkor with the Sonnar design should be a no brainer. I used one in the film days on a Nikon F body, and I reacquired one last year for use on a Canon 5DII. I love it now just as much as then. It was , after all, the gold standard portrait lens of the 1960's and early 1970's. Nice thing, is that the Sonnar design is now considered the "junk" lens by sharpness fanatics, so it is possible to pick one up at a reasonable price. I bought mine at a show in Omaha last year for $100.00, it even included the box and platic storage bubble:), and not a scratch on it (I was lucky). But, excellent examples can be had for 125-150$ tops (what is that in British pounds)-you pay a lot more for the later AI and AIS redesign ones. |
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SkvLTD
Joined: 19 Apr 2013 Posts: 198
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Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 3:26 am Post subject: |
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SkvLTD wrote:
50/2 is pretty solid for the price IMO, but that's more of a discussion for price point...
http://skvltd.wordpress.com/?s=50mm |
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anscochrome
Joined: 23 Dec 2010 Posts: 115 Location: Omaha, NE
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Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 3:27 am Post subject: |
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anscochrome wrote:
Shots from 105mm F 2.5 Nikkor (Sonnar design)
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bernhardas
Joined: 01 Jan 2013 Posts: 1437
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Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 3:40 am Post subject: |
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bernhardas wrote:
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bernhardas
Joined: 01 Jan 2013 Posts: 1437
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Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 3:42 am Post subject: |
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bernhardas wrote:
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ManualFocus-G
Joined: 29 Dec 2008 Posts: 6624 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 7:26 am Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
The old 28/2 is eye burstingly sharp. _________________ Graham - Moderator
Shooter of choice: Fujifilm X-T20 with M42, PB and C/Y lenses
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barryreid
Joined: 27 Aug 2013 Posts: 285 Location: London
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Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 8:40 am Post subject: |
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barryreid wrote:
Anscochrome - those are really nice, particularly the B&W portrait and B&W building shots. _________________ Canon + Contax + Minolta + Nikon + Olympus + Pentax + Yashica = Adaptall-2 |
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DR.JUAN
Joined: 08 Feb 2013 Posts: 661
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Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 9:07 am Post subject: |
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DR.JUAN wrote:
A friend of mine was very happy with his pre AIs Nikkor-N 4,5/300.
Was he wrong? |
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ckrook
Joined: 02 Oct 2012 Posts: 79 Location: Oslo, Norway
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Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 10:22 am Post subject: |
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ckrook wrote:
The 35mm f1.4 is wonderful, but maybe a bit expensive?
The 35mm 2, 50mm 1.8/2 and 85mm f2 are all great lenses and very reasonable. |
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15685
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Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 12:15 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Thanks guys, this is the sort of feedback I was hoping for.
Ansochrome, wonderful shots, and yes, I'm a Sonnar fan, so the 2.5/105 earlier type is one I will look for, your shots show a very nice character and ample sharpness, I particularly like the second one, and it looks very sharp on my screen.
Does anyone have any experience of the Nikkor-H 3.5/28? I know it is widely held that the 2.8/28 AI-S is the one to have, but the older 3.5 is much cheaper. I have read some negative comments about it, one person even called it the worst in the business and said that Nikon shooters all bought the 2.8/24 instead because the 3.5/28 was crap.
Also, I was wondering about the merits of the Nikkor-S and Nikkor-H versions of the 2/50. The S has 7 elements, the H has 6 and replaced the S. I'm not too worried about absolute performance, as I'm sure both are more than good enough, but how does their character differ? Or should I skip em and get a 1.4/50 instead? _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it!
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hoanpham
Joined: 31 Jan 2011 Posts: 2575
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Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 12:20 pm Post subject: |
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hoanpham wrote:
my fav are ais 28/3.5, 28/2, 35/1.4, 180/2.8 ED, 400/5.6ED,
special usage: 28/3.5PC, 200/4ED ais macro.
The 28/3.5PC has distorsion and need attension when shifted.
The 35/1.4 has short focus throw, good on nex, less good on optical view finder (canikon) but sharp.
28/2 and 28/3.5 are very sharp. Prefer 28/2 ais instead of distagon 28/2 due to weight and not hit mirror on canon.
28/3.5 ais must yield for distagon 28/2.8.
50/1.4 ais is average, prefer planar 50/1.4.
180/2.8ED is very sharp; my preference is equally between LeicaR 180/2.8 and OM mc 180/2.8. |
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15685
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Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Cheers Hoan, good info, thanks. The 2.8/180 is one I would love to have, but I would be happy with the 4/200 which I have read is very sharp even wide open and surprisingly small and light. I did read that the first Nikkor-Q version is to be avoided as the later AI and AI-S versions are much better. Anyone got experience of the 4/200? _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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hoanpham
Joined: 31 Jan 2011 Posts: 2575
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Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 12:37 pm Post subject: |
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hoanpham wrote:
The 200/4 ED micro is going to 1:2 only. Very good internal focus mech.
I'll find some samples for you later. very sharp, and light weight.
Otherwise, I use a kiron 105/2.8 macro (1:1) with a good tc 2x on canon - this setup is heavy.
or with AF: 105/2.8G micro with tc on nikon - this setup is relatively ok with multiple purpose (kids/portraits). |
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flaviomaia
Joined: 15 Jan 2013 Posts: 120 Location: Portugal
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Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 4:16 pm Post subject: |
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flaviomaia wrote:
iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
Thanks guys, this is the sort of feedback I was hoping for.
Does anyone have any experience of the Nikkor-H 3.5/28? I know it is widely held that the 2.8/28 AI-S is the one to have, but the older 3.5 is much cheaper. I have read some negative comments about it, one person even called it the worst in the business and said that Nikon shooters all bought the 2.8/24 instead because the 3.5/28 was crap.
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I have an early version of the nikkor-H 3.5/28mm and I can say it is a good lens, but not a great one. It is sharp in the center and has good contrast, but the (extreme) corners are a bit soft, especially if you use it on full frame.
The AI version is diferent, but I can't tell if it is better or not since I don't have one.
Here is a photo taken with a Nikkor-H 3.5/2.8cm (silver noose) mounted on a Nex-5N.
_________________ Flávio Maia
Digital: Nikon D300, D80, Sony Nex-5N, A7II
Film: Mamiya 645, Nikon F, FM, FE, EM, Nikkormat FTN, Pentax Soptmatic SPII, Zorki-S, Kiev 4...
Lenses: a few nikkors, a few soviets and a couple of mamiyas |
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philslizzy
Joined: 07 Aug 2012 Posts: 4748 Location: Cheshire, England
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Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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philslizzy wrote:
I got the pre AI Nikkor 135 f3.5 and it is sharp. Blows my other 135's out of the water. Cost me about £15 on ebay. _________________ Hero in the 'messin-with-cameras-for-the-hell-of-it department'. Official. |
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cooltouch
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 9097 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 12:17 am Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
I'm gonna assume that by "Old Nikkors" you mean Pre-AI Nikkors. I have a few:
35mm f/2 OC
55mm f/3.5 Micro Nikkor
105mm f/2.5 P
And just let me state that I would like to add two more to this list someday: the 20mm f/3.5 UD and the 135mm f/2.8 OC
But of the lenses I actually own, my most favorite by a significant margin is the 55mm f/3.5 Micro Nikkor. It's one of my most favorite lenses, period. It's also one of my sharpest. _________________ Michael
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RnR
Joined: 11 Jul 2012 Posts: 283 Location: Brisbane, Australia
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Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 1:16 am Post subject: |
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RnR wrote:
I have a few Nikkors which I'm enjoying on a Metabones Speedbooster.
Nikon 28mm f3.5 H.C @f8
_________________ Currently shooting with Fuji X-E2s + Metabones Speedbooster + m42 and CY glass 💕
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anscochrome
Joined: 23 Dec 2010 Posts: 115 Location: Omaha, NE
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Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 2:48 am Post subject: |
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anscochrome wrote:
Ian,
I have a very nice 50mm F 2.0 Nikkor-H. It has a bluish coating (single coated) and produces very good results. You can probably get a better deal on one if you find it "thrown in" with a beat up old Nikkormat body (default "kit lens" with Nikkormat FS, FT, and FTN), which is how my brother acquired it. Pair it with a nice deep 52mm metal lens hood (some proclivity to flare) and you have yourself a winner. |
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