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ChrisLilley
Joined: 01 Jan 2008 Posts: 1767 Location: Nice, France
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 7:40 pm Post subject: Vivitar Series One 70-210mm f3.5 Macro |
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ChrisLilley wrote:
I just won a Vivitar Series One 70-210mm f3.5 Macro on fleabay for 32 pounds. Its the first edition, Kiron, one.
_________________ Camera (ˈkæ mə rə), n. Device for taking pictures in bright light
There are 10 kinds of people in the world: those who understand binary, and those who don’t. Key: Ai-P, Ai, Ai'ed, AiS
Camera: Nikon D90, D40, DK-21M eyepiece, ML-3 remote MF lenses: Nikkor 20mm f/4 K, AI'ed | N.K. Nikkor-N 24mm f/2.8 | Nikkor-N.C 24mm f/2.8 | Nikkor 28mm f/2.8 AiS late model | Арсенал (Arsenal) Мир-24Н (Mir-24N) 35mm f/2 | Cosina Voigtländer Ultron SL II 40mm f/2.0 | Micro-Nikkor 55mm f/2.8 AiS | Zoom-Nikkor 80-200 f/4.5 Ai | ЛЗОС (LZOS) Юпитер-9 (Jupiter-9) 85mm f/2 | Cosina Voigtländer APO-Lanthar 90mm f/3.5 SL | Nikkor-P 105mm f/2.5 pre-Ai, Ai'ed | Micro-Nikkor 105mm f/4 | Schneider Kreuznach Componon 105mm f/5.6 | Nikkor 135mm f/2.8, Ai'ed 1976 model | Nikkor 180mm f/2.8 ED AiS | Арсенал (Arsenal) ТЕЛЕАР-Н (Telear-n) 200mm f/3.5 | Nikkor 300 mm f/4.5 Ai (full equipment list) |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57840 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Cool! Large and heavy, but a quality lens! _________________ -------------------------------
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Richard_D
Joined: 21 Oct 2007 Posts: 2378 Location: Faversham Kent UK
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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Richard_D wrote:
Congratulations - that's a good price _________________ Richard
The interesting bit:
Nikkors: 20mm f2.8 AIS, 24mm f2.8 AIS, 28mm f2.8 AIS, 35mm f2 AIS, 50mm f1.4 AI, 50mm f1.48AI, 50m f2 AI,
55mm f3.5 AI'd, 105mm f4 AI, 135mm f2.8 AI'd, 135mm f3.5 AI'd, 200mm f4 AI'd .
Nikon E Series: 100mm f2.8 .
Soviet Nikon Mount: Zenitar 16mm f2.8, Arsat/arax/photex 85mm T&S f2.8 .
Other: Asahi Super Takumar 55 mm f2 (M42) ,Tamron 300mm f5.6 SP, Tamron 500mm f8 SP.
DSLR: Nikon D700. 35mm SLRsNikon FE, Pentax S1a.
TLR: Rolliecord II.
Sub-Minature: Pentax Auto 110, 18mm f2.8, 24mm f2.8, 50mm f2.8.
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ChrisLilley
Joined: 01 Jan 2008 Posts: 1767 Location: Nice, France
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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ChrisLilley wrote:
I had been tracking this lens for a while, seeing what they went for. This particular one was 'ships to uk only' but I mailed them and did the "British expat living abroad' sort of thing (you know, in case they were worried about dealing with foreigners ) and they said yes,they could send it royal mail airsure for 15 quid.
Starting bid was 20 quid, there was a buy it now for 40. I had decided not to go beyond 40. There was a snipe at 6 seconds to go but I had a separate browser window ready to go to confirm a higher bid, was hitting refresh every two seconds, and sniped the sniper!
background on Vivitar Series 1 70-210 _________________ Camera (ˈkæ mə rə), n. Device for taking pictures in bright light
There are 10 kinds of people in the world: those who understand binary, and those who don’t. Key: Ai-P, Ai, Ai'ed, AiS
Camera: Nikon D90, D40, DK-21M eyepiece, ML-3 remote MF lenses: Nikkor 20mm f/4 K, AI'ed | N.K. Nikkor-N 24mm f/2.8 | Nikkor-N.C 24mm f/2.8 | Nikkor 28mm f/2.8 AiS late model | Арсенал (Arsenal) Мир-24Н (Mir-24N) 35mm f/2 | Cosina Voigtländer Ultron SL II 40mm f/2.0 | Micro-Nikkor 55mm f/2.8 AiS | Zoom-Nikkor 80-200 f/4.5 Ai | ЛЗОС (LZOS) Юпитер-9 (Jupiter-9) 85mm f/2 | Cosina Voigtländer APO-Lanthar 90mm f/3.5 SL | Nikkor-P 105mm f/2.5 pre-Ai, Ai'ed | Micro-Nikkor 105mm f/4 | Schneider Kreuznach Componon 105mm f/5.6 | Nikkor 135mm f/2.8, Ai'ed 1976 model | Nikkor 180mm f/2.8 ED AiS | Арсенал (Arsenal) ТЕЛЕАР-Н (Telear-n) 200mm f/3.5 | Nikkor 300 mm f/4.5 Ai (full equipment list)
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Farside
Joined: 01 Sep 2007 Posts: 6549 Location: Ireland
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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Farside wrote:
Excellent choice. It's every bit as good, if not better in some areas, than the SP 70-210. _________________ Dave - Moderator
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57840 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Not better in my opinion ,I rated higher both variant of Tamron SP 70-210mm lens,but this is only my opinion (very subjective and time to time changing) _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
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patrickh
Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 8551 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:21 am Post subject: |
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patrickh wrote:
That's an excellent lens - there are constant discussions about which version was the best and this is usually up near or at the top (main contender is the Komine version). Those Ser1 Vivs are pretty special even now.
patrickh _________________ DSLR: Nikon D300 Nikon D200 Nex 5N
MF Zooms: Kiron 28-85/3.5, 28-105/3.2, 75-150/3.5, Nikkor 50-135/3.5 AIS // MF Primes: Nikkor 20/4 AI, 24/2 AI, 28/2 AI, 28/2.8 AIS, 28/3.5 AI, 35/1.4 AIS, 35/2 AIS, 35/2.8 PC, 45/2.8 P, 50/1.4 AIS, 50/1.8 AIS, 50/2 AI, 55/2.8 AIS micro, 55/3.5 AI micro, 85/2 AI, 100/2,8 E, 105/1,8 AIS, 105/2,5 AIS, 135/2 AIS, 135/2.8 AIS, 200/4 AI, 200/4 AIS micro, 300/4.5 AI, 300/4.5 AI ED, Arsat 50/1.4, Kiron 28/2, Vivitar 28/2.5, Panagor 135/2.8, Tamron 28/2.5, Tamron 90/2.5 macro, Vivitar 90/2.5 macro (Tokina) Voigtlander 90/3.5 Vivitar 105/2.5 macro (Kiron) Kaleinar 100/2.8 AI Tamron 135/2.5, Vivitar 135/2.8CF, 200/3.5, Tokina 400/5,6
M42: Vivitar 28/2.5, Tamron 28/2.5, Formula5 28/2.8, Mamiya 28/2.8, Pentacon 29/2.8, Flektogon 35/2.4, Flektogon 35/2.8, Takumar 35/3.5, Curtagon 35/4, Takumar 50/1.4, Volna-6 50/2.8 macro, Mamiya 50/1.4, CZJ Pancolar 50/1,8, Oreston 50/1.8, Takumar 50/2, Industar 50/3.5, Sears 55/1.4, Helios 58/2, Jupiter 85/2, Helios 85/1.5, Takumar 105/2.8, Steinheil macro 105/4.5, Tamron 135/2.5, Jupiter 135/4, CZ 135/4, Steinheil Culminar 135/4,5, Jupiter 135/3.5, Takumar 135/3.5, Tair 135/2.8, Pentacon 135/2.8, CZ 135/2.8, Taika 135/3.5, Takumar 150/4, Jupiter 200/4, Takumar 200/4
Exakta: Topcon 100/2.8(M42), 35/2.8, 58/1.8, 135/2.8, 135/2.8 (M42), Kyoei Acall 135/3.5
C/Y: Yashica 28/2.8, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, Zeiss Planar 50/1.4, Distagon 25/2.8
Hexanon: 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 40/1.8, 50/1.7, 52/1.8, 135/3.2, 135/3.5, 35-70/3.5, 200/3.5
P6 : Mir 38 65/3.5, Biometar 80/2.8, Kaleinar 150/2.8, Sonnar 180/2.8
Minolta SR: 28/2.8, 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 45/2, 50/2, 58/1.4, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, 200/3.5
RF: Industar 53/2.8, Jupiter 8 50/2
Enlarg: Rodagon 50/5,6, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, Vario 44-52/4, 150/5.6 180/5.6 El Nikkor 50/2,8,63/2.8,75/4, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, 135/5.6 Schneider 60/5.6, 80/5.6, 80/4S,100/5.6S,105/5.6,135/5.6, 135/5.6S, 150/5.6S, Leica 95/4 |
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Screamin Scott
Joined: 13 Oct 2007 Posts: 1014 Location: Dallas, Georgia USA
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:40 am Post subject: |
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Screamin Scott wrote:
I've got both the 1st (Kiron in Nikon Pre-Ai) & 3rd editions (Komine variable aperture in Nikon Ais)and both give pro caliber results....A heavy lens but worth it... _________________ Cameras-Nikon D300, D7100,D610,FE2,FTN ,FT2,N90s, Olympus Pen EP-3 & Olympus OM-D E-M10
Nikkor AF Zooms=28-105/3.5D,28-70/3.5D,35-135/3.5, et al
Nikkor AF //50/1.8,//Nikkor MF//50/2ai,50/1.8ais 50/1.4ai,24/2.8ais,28/2.8ai,28/3.5ai,55microAis/2.8,105/2.5ai,200/4ai,300/4.5ai35-135/3.5Ais,et al
Kiron /Kino made lenses//70-210/4ai,28-105/3.2ai,30-80/3.5ai,Viv 28/2ai,35-85/2.8aiVivS1,105/2.8Ais Dine,24-48/3.8ai VivS1,50-150/3.8aiViv,28-85/2.8aiViv,100/2.8Nai Viv,70-210/3.5Nai Viv,28/2.5ai Viv Komine made Viv//24/2Ais,135/2.8aiCF,28-50/3.5ai,28-90/2.8ai Viv S1,80-200/4.5aiCosina made Viv 19/3.8 Ais...Also Sigma 24/2.8 Ais Tokina made24/2.8ai VivAF Sigma 21-35/3.5,& other lenses... A link to some of my Flickr albums...
https://www.flickr.com/photos/screaminscott/albums |
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ChrisLilley
Joined: 01 Jan 2008 Posts: 1767 Location: Nice, France
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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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ChrisLilley wrote:
Couple of shots from the weekend. It was bright and sunny, but also lots of glare on the sea, and rather windy. Photos link to larger sizes.
Cap d'Antibes (foreground) and the Esterel hills, photographed from Mt Boron, Nice.
Nikon D40, Vivitar Series 1 70-210 (Kiron) @ ISO 200, 1/1600s. Aperture unrecorded.
Snowy mountains peeking through as seen from Mt Boron, Nice.
Nikon D40, Vivitar Series 1 (Kiron) 70-210 f/3.5 @ ISO 200, 1/800s, 210mm, probably f/11. This is a 100% crop.
EDIT: turns out this is a full-width crop, my error. _________________ Camera (ˈkæ mə rə), n. Device for taking pictures in bright light
There are 10 kinds of people in the world: those who understand binary, and those who don’t. Key: Ai-P, Ai, Ai'ed, AiS
Camera: Nikon D90, D40, DK-21M eyepiece, ML-3 remote MF lenses: Nikkor 20mm f/4 K, AI'ed | N.K. Nikkor-N 24mm f/2.8 | Nikkor-N.C 24mm f/2.8 | Nikkor 28mm f/2.8 AiS late model | Арсенал (Arsenal) Мир-24Н (Mir-24N) 35mm f/2 | Cosina Voigtländer Ultron SL II 40mm f/2.0 | Micro-Nikkor 55mm f/2.8 AiS | Zoom-Nikkor 80-200 f/4.5 Ai | ЛЗОС (LZOS) Юпитер-9 (Jupiter-9) 85mm f/2 | Cosina Voigtländer APO-Lanthar 90mm f/3.5 SL | Nikkor-P 105mm f/2.5 pre-Ai, Ai'ed | Micro-Nikkor 105mm f/4 | Schneider Kreuznach Componon 105mm f/5.6 | Nikkor 135mm f/2.8, Ai'ed 1976 model | Nikkor 180mm f/2.8 ED AiS | Арсенал (Arsenal) ТЕЛЕАР-Н (Telear-n) 200mm f/3.5 | Nikkor 300 mm f/4.5 Ai (full equipment list)
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Russ
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 432
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 3:01 am Post subject: |
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Russ wrote:
You'll like your new lens. I have one too. It's a good one. The attached snap was made with it.
Russ
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Russ
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 432
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 3:57 am Post subject: |
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Russ wrote:
Here's another snap made with that lens in "macro" mode.
Russ
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IvanJ
Joined: 28 Jan 2008 Posts: 34 Location: Serbia
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 11:58 am Post subject: |
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IvanJ wrote:
ChrisLilley wrote: |
Snowy mountains peeking through as seen from Mt Boron, Nice.
Nikon D40, Vivitar Series 1 (Kiron) 70-210 f/3.5 @ ISO 200, 1/800s, 210mm, probably f/11. This is a 100% crop. |
if this is 100% crop, it is fantastic, and I would LOVE to see the whole frame. please, post it. (please, don't disapoint me that you meant it's 100% of the whole frame and not a crop) _________________ Nikon D70, Zenitar 16/2.8 FE, Super Takumar 50/1.4, Jupiter 9 85/2, Elicar 90/2.5 Macro, CZJ Sonnar 135/3.5, Jupiter 11A 135/4, Pentacon 200/4. CZJ Sonnar 300/4 Nikkors: 20/2.8 AF-D, 50/1.8 AF, 105/2.5 Ais, 80-200/2.8 AF-D, TC-16A |
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ChrisLilley
Joined: 01 Jan 2008 Posts: 1767 Location: Nice, France
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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ChrisLilley wrote:
IvanJ wrote: |
if this is 100% crop, it is fantastic, and I would LOVE to see the whole frame. please, post it. (please, don't disapoint me that you meant it's 100% of the whole frame and not a crop) |
Ah, I checked back and sorry, its not a 100% crop after all. I had saved it out with -crop in the filename, which i usually do for 100% crops. Later when I uploaded it to flickr I assumed it was 100%.
But actually its a crop of top and bottom only. I have updated the flickr page. _________________ Camera (ˈkæ mə rə), n. Device for taking pictures in bright light
There are 10 kinds of people in the world: those who understand binary, and those who don’t. Key: Ai-P, Ai, Ai'ed, AiS
Camera: Nikon D90, D40, DK-21M eyepiece, ML-3 remote MF lenses: Nikkor 20mm f/4 K, AI'ed | N.K. Nikkor-N 24mm f/2.8 | Nikkor-N.C 24mm f/2.8 | Nikkor 28mm f/2.8 AiS late model | Арсенал (Arsenal) Мир-24Н (Mir-24N) 35mm f/2 | Cosina Voigtländer Ultron SL II 40mm f/2.0 | Micro-Nikkor 55mm f/2.8 AiS | Zoom-Nikkor 80-200 f/4.5 Ai | ЛЗОС (LZOS) Юпитер-9 (Jupiter-9) 85mm f/2 | Cosina Voigtländer APO-Lanthar 90mm f/3.5 SL | Nikkor-P 105mm f/2.5 pre-Ai, Ai'ed | Micro-Nikkor 105mm f/4 | Schneider Kreuznach Componon 105mm f/5.6 | Nikkor 135mm f/2.8, Ai'ed 1976 model | Nikkor 180mm f/2.8 ED AiS | Арсенал (Arsenal) ТЕЛЕАР-Н (Telear-n) 200mm f/3.5 | Nikkor 300 mm f/4.5 Ai (full equipment list) |
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ChrisLilley
Joined: 01 Jan 2008 Posts: 1767 Location: Nice, France
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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ChrisLilley wrote:
Here is a real 100% crop. This is an uncompressed crop (16 bit PNG)
amusingly flickr completely falls over when making lower resolution jpegs of this
_________________ Camera (ˈkæ mə rə), n. Device for taking pictures in bright light
There are 10 kinds of people in the world: those who understand binary, and those who don’t. Key: Ai-P, Ai, Ai'ed, AiS
Camera: Nikon D90, D40, DK-21M eyepiece, ML-3 remote MF lenses: Nikkor 20mm f/4 K, AI'ed | N.K. Nikkor-N 24mm f/2.8 | Nikkor-N.C 24mm f/2.8 | Nikkor 28mm f/2.8 AiS late model | Арсенал (Arsenal) Мир-24Н (Mir-24N) 35mm f/2 | Cosina Voigtländer Ultron SL II 40mm f/2.0 | Micro-Nikkor 55mm f/2.8 AiS | Zoom-Nikkor 80-200 f/4.5 Ai | ЛЗОС (LZOS) Юпитер-9 (Jupiter-9) 85mm f/2 | Cosina Voigtländer APO-Lanthar 90mm f/3.5 SL | Nikkor-P 105mm f/2.5 pre-Ai, Ai'ed | Micro-Nikkor 105mm f/4 | Schneider Kreuznach Componon 105mm f/5.6 | Nikkor 135mm f/2.8, Ai'ed 1976 model | Nikkor 180mm f/2.8 ED AiS | Арсенал (Arsenal) ТЕЛЕАР-Н (Telear-n) 200mm f/3.5 | Nikkor 300 mm f/4.5 Ai (full equipment list) |
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Russ
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 432
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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Russ wrote:
Russ wrote: |
You'll like your new lens. I have one too. It's a good one. The attached snap was made with it.
Russ
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I forgot to mention that this snap (woman picking flowers) was made on the old, crappy Ektachrome 200, from the mid 80's. I pushed it two stops to ASA 800 in order to break up the grain, used a diffusion filter, in an effort to get a "rennaisance painting" effect. Hopefully, that explains it's apparent lack of sharpness.
The attached snap below, was made on Ektachrome 200 @ 200, with the "Kiron" model, Viv S-1 70-210 glass.
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ChrisLilley
Joined: 01 Jan 2008 Posts: 1767 Location: Nice, France
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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ChrisLilley wrote:
Russ wrote: |
I forgot to mention that this snap (woman picking flowers) was made on the old, crappy Ektachrome 200, from the mid 80's. I pushed it two stops to ASA 800 in order to break up the grain, used a diffusion filter, in an effort to get a "rennaisance painting" effect. Hopefully, that explains it's apparent lack of sharpness |
Really glad you said that, since my initial reaction was "well, thats no great recommendation for what the lens can do"...
I do find some softness and lack of contrast in my shots, especially at the edges, even stopped down. I worry that (as Attila predicted) its not as good as my Nikkor 80-200 f/4.5 which would suck, if confirmed. _________________ Camera (ˈkæ mə rə), n. Device for taking pictures in bright light
There are 10 kinds of people in the world: those who understand binary, and those who don’t. Key: Ai-P, Ai, Ai'ed, AiS
Camera: Nikon D90, D40, DK-21M eyepiece, ML-3 remote MF lenses: Nikkor 20mm f/4 K, AI'ed | N.K. Nikkor-N 24mm f/2.8 | Nikkor-N.C 24mm f/2.8 | Nikkor 28mm f/2.8 AiS late model | Арсенал (Arsenal) Мир-24Н (Mir-24N) 35mm f/2 | Cosina Voigtländer Ultron SL II 40mm f/2.0 | Micro-Nikkor 55mm f/2.8 AiS | Zoom-Nikkor 80-200 f/4.5 Ai | ЛЗОС (LZOS) Юпитер-9 (Jupiter-9) 85mm f/2 | Cosina Voigtländer APO-Lanthar 90mm f/3.5 SL | Nikkor-P 105mm f/2.5 pre-Ai, Ai'ed | Micro-Nikkor 105mm f/4 | Schneider Kreuznach Componon 105mm f/5.6 | Nikkor 135mm f/2.8, Ai'ed 1976 model | Nikkor 180mm f/2.8 ED AiS | Арсенал (Arsenal) ТЕЛЕАР-Н (Telear-n) 200mm f/3.5 | Nikkor 300 mm f/4.5 Ai (full equipment list) |
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Russ
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 432
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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Russ wrote:
ChrisLilley wrote: |
Russ wrote: |
I forgot to mention that this snap (woman picking flowers) was made on the old, crappy Ektachrome 200, from the mid 80's. I pushed it two stops to ASA 800 in order to break up the grain, used a diffusion filter, in an effort to get a "rennaisance painting" effect. Hopefully, that explains it's apparent lack of sharpness |
Really glad you said that, since my initial reaction was "well, thats no great recommendation for what the lens can do"...
I do find some softness and lack of contrast in my shots, especially at the edges, even stopped down. I worry that (as Attila predicted) its not as good as my Nikkor 80-200 f/4.5 which would suck, if confirmed. |
No comparison. It'll blow away your Nikon version. I personally, like the second and third editions even more...
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ChrisLilley
Joined: 01 Jan 2008 Posts: 1767 Location: Nice, France
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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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ChrisLilley wrote:
Either I have an infinity focus issue, or 'no comparison' turns out to be correct in the opposite way that Russ intended.
Both shots taken at ISO 200, 1/400s f/11 with a Nikon D40. Shots less than a minute apart.
These are 100% crops, shot RAW, saved as TIFF and then the two images combined and labelled in Photoshop. Result saved as PNG.
Left: Vivitar Series 1 (first edition, Kiron) 70-210 f/3.5. Right: Zoom-Nikkor 80-200 f/4.5 AI (second version). _________________ Camera (ˈkæ mə rə), n. Device for taking pictures in bright light
There are 10 kinds of people in the world: those who understand binary, and those who don’t. Key: Ai-P, Ai, Ai'ed, AiS
Camera: Nikon D90, D40, DK-21M eyepiece, ML-3 remote MF lenses: Nikkor 20mm f/4 K, AI'ed | N.K. Nikkor-N 24mm f/2.8 | Nikkor-N.C 24mm f/2.8 | Nikkor 28mm f/2.8 AiS late model | Арсенал (Arsenal) Мир-24Н (Mir-24N) 35mm f/2 | Cosina Voigtländer Ultron SL II 40mm f/2.0 | Micro-Nikkor 55mm f/2.8 AiS | Zoom-Nikkor 80-200 f/4.5 Ai | ЛЗОС (LZOS) Юпитер-9 (Jupiter-9) 85mm f/2 | Cosina Voigtländer APO-Lanthar 90mm f/3.5 SL | Nikkor-P 105mm f/2.5 pre-Ai, Ai'ed | Micro-Nikkor 105mm f/4 | Schneider Kreuznach Componon 105mm f/5.6 | Nikkor 135mm f/2.8, Ai'ed 1976 model | Nikkor 180mm f/2.8 ED AiS | Арсенал (Arsenal) ТЕЛЕАР-Н (Telear-n) 200mm f/3.5 | Nikkor 300 mm f/4.5 Ai (full equipment list) |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57840 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Nikkor looks lot better... _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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ChrisLilley
Joined: 01 Jan 2008 Posts: 1767 Location: Nice, France
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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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ChrisLilley wrote:
Attila wrote: |
Nikkor looks lot better... |
Yeah, there really is 'no comparison'. Build quality on the Viv is better and it has lasted better (the zoom and focus ring on the Nikkor flops all over the place) but the optics on the Nikkor clearly deliver better contrast and sharpness. These are center crops. _________________ Camera (ˈkæ mə rə), n. Device for taking pictures in bright light
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Camera: Nikon D90, D40, DK-21M eyepiece, ML-3 remote MF lenses: Nikkor 20mm f/4 K, AI'ed | N.K. Nikkor-N 24mm f/2.8 | Nikkor-N.C 24mm f/2.8 | Nikkor 28mm f/2.8 AiS late model | Арсенал (Arsenal) Мир-24Н (Mir-24N) 35mm f/2 | Cosina Voigtländer Ultron SL II 40mm f/2.0 | Micro-Nikkor 55mm f/2.8 AiS | Zoom-Nikkor 80-200 f/4.5 Ai | ЛЗОС (LZOS) Юпитер-9 (Jupiter-9) 85mm f/2 | Cosina Voigtländer APO-Lanthar 90mm f/3.5 SL | Nikkor-P 105mm f/2.5 pre-Ai, Ai'ed | Micro-Nikkor 105mm f/4 | Schneider Kreuznach Componon 105mm f/5.6 | Nikkor 135mm f/2.8, Ai'ed 1976 model | Nikkor 180mm f/2.8 ED AiS | Арсенал (Arsenal) ТЕЛЕАР-Н (Telear-n) 200mm f/3.5 | Nikkor 300 mm f/4.5 Ai (full equipment list) |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57840 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I know one Kiron lens only what is better than Nikkor competitor that is Kiron 105mm f2.8 macro 1:1. Image quality is perhaps same than Nikkor 105mm but this lens has built in macro 1:1. Any other Kiron what I tested was a bit weaker than equivalent Nikkor lens. _________________ -------------------------------
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ChrisLilley
Joined: 01 Jan 2008 Posts: 1767 Location: Nice, France
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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 4:29 pm Post subject: Some more tests |
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ChrisLilley wrote:
Some more comparisons. This is the base shot to show where cropped regions come from in the other tests. Shots were taken on a tripod and using a remote shutter release.
One lens is f/3.5 and the other f/4.5, so comparison at f/4 is not possible.
Vivitar on the left, Nikkor on the right.
f/5.6, 1/640s
f/8, 1/320s
f/11, 1/160s
So, what I see is - the Vivitar is soft af f/5.6, better at f/8, still a bit better at f/11. The Nikkor is already sharp at f/5.6, still sharp at f/8, and starting to soften a little (diffraction) at f/11. Also, the Nikkor at f/5.6 is sharper and has better contrast than the Vivitar at any setting. _________________ Camera (ˈkæ mə rə), n. Device for taking pictures in bright light
There are 10 kinds of people in the world: those who understand binary, and those who don’t. Key: Ai-P, Ai, Ai'ed, AiS
Camera: Nikon D90, D40, DK-21M eyepiece, ML-3 remote MF lenses: Nikkor 20mm f/4 K, AI'ed | N.K. Nikkor-N 24mm f/2.8 | Nikkor-N.C 24mm f/2.8 | Nikkor 28mm f/2.8 AiS late model | Арсенал (Arsenal) Мир-24Н (Mir-24N) 35mm f/2 | Cosina Voigtländer Ultron SL II 40mm f/2.0 | Micro-Nikkor 55mm f/2.8 AiS | Zoom-Nikkor 80-200 f/4.5 Ai | ЛЗОС (LZOS) Юпитер-9 (Jupiter-9) 85mm f/2 | Cosina Voigtländer APO-Lanthar 90mm f/3.5 SL | Nikkor-P 105mm f/2.5 pre-Ai, Ai'ed | Micro-Nikkor 105mm f/4 | Schneider Kreuznach Componon 105mm f/5.6 | Nikkor 135mm f/2.8, Ai'ed 1976 model | Nikkor 180mm f/2.8 ED AiS | Арсенал (Arsenal) ТЕЛЕАР-Н (Telear-n) 200mm f/3.5 | Nikkor 300 mm f/4.5 Ai (full equipment list) |
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