Vintage lens help needed (35mm, 50mm, 85mm) for cinematogr.

[R3jected]

Hello fellow filmmakers,

I am feeling confused and overwhelmed by the information there is out on vintage lenses and I have spend so much time my head is feeling to explode. I've come to the part where I need your help.

I am looking to build my first lens kit for cinematography (and a little bit photography) on my apsc sized sensor camera, mainly for vimeo style shorts.

The focal length I am currently searching for are 35mm, 50mm, 85mm but don't feel strictly to these if you have a great lens tell me.

So here is the criteria I looking for:

sharpness (if possible right from wide open, as much as the limitations following allow)
good color renderition
bokeh (good bokeh is a question of taste I know)
price (below 130€, cheaper price to performance beasts are much appreciated)

(5. radioactive lenses should be marked as such, please )

My mount is Samsung NX

If you know what you are talking about I would greatly welcome you if you could spend the time and post a top 3 of lenses to look for for each of the categories above. Sorry for taking your time, I know there are a lot of threads around this online, I have read many, but I came to the point where I just need the help of some smart people.

Thanks for your time. Have a great day. Your expertise is much appreciated. Jan

[Gardener]

What's the native mount of your camera? Without knowing that we can't give you good suggestions.

[Lightshow]

I would get Preset lenses as a priority, something like these
37/2.8 Mir-1 M42
58/2 Helios 44-2 M42
85/2 Jupiter 9 M42
Keep in mind these came in multiple mounts, M42 as I typed above, plus M39 Rangefinder and M39 SLR(If you stand the RF & SLR side by side, RF is longer to make up flange distance).

[kds315*]

[buerokratiehasser]

For filming you might want to consider focus breathing (unless you shoot without zooming).

Unfortunately, no one knows.

kenrockwell has some hints but he is really Canikon only basically.

[R3jected]

Thanks so far. You are right, I should have mentioned the camera / mount I am on, because I probably need an adapter !!
I am using the NX1 with Samsung NX mount
I am looking farward for some more recommendations!
Have a great day!

About those Russian lenses, they are incredible for their price and USSR look for sure, but I am not a fan of their performance wide open (I know which is ridiculus to say at this pricepoint and image)

[kds315*]

[Boris_Akunin]

Is your 130€ limit meant per lens or for all three?
Getting all three for 130€ would be next to impossible, 390€ for all three would give you quite a few choices.

Since you're looking for sharpness wide open, what maximum aperture do you want/need for each focal length?
There are a couple of 85/1.8s and 85/2s in your price range, lots of fast 50s (f/1.8 & f/1.7, a bit more for f/1.4) and slow (f/2.8) 35s.
A faster 35 (f/2, f/1.8) will cost quite a bit more.

Are you looking to de-click the aperture rings?
With many lenses, this is quite easy but you should probably know how before you buy a lens.
For example, here's a short tutorial for declicking nFD lenses: http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/2410/demo-de-clicking-canon-fd-lens-to-get-stepless-aperture/p1

35:
If you can live with f/2.8, the Minolta MD 35/2.8 (the later versions with 49mm filter thread) and the Canon nFD 35/2.8 are very sharp from f/2.8 and still fairly reasonably priced. If you want a faster 35, the Canon (n)FD 35/2 might be a good option (120-150€ if you're lucky), I'd go for the nFD.

Minolta:
http://artaphot.ch/minolta-sr/objektiv-vergleiche/434-sony-a7rii-and-summilux-1-4-35mm-asph-sony-zeiss-fe-2-8-35mm-and-minolta-md-2-8-35mm (in german but you'll get the gist)
Canon:
http://erphotoreview.com/wordpress/?p=4114
http://erphotoreview.com/wordpress/?p=4320
http://phillipreeve.net/blog/review-canon-new-fd-35mm-12-8/
http://phillipreeve.net/blog/shootout-the-canon-fd-35mm-lenses/


50:
Lot's of choices here, I'd go for a Minolta MC/MD 50/1.4 or the Canon nFD 50/1.4.

Minolta:
http://artaphot.ch/minolta-sr/objektiv-vergleiche/322-nex-5n-und-minolta-50mm-objektive-teil-ii (again, in german)
http://phillipreeve.net/blog/review-minolta-mc-rokkor-50mm-11-4/
Canon:
http://erphotoreview.com/wordpress/?p=4352
http://phillipreeve.net/blog/canon-new-fd-50mm-11-4-review/

85:
There aren't many 85s in your price range. The Canon (n)FD 85/1.8 may be a good choice, it's pretty common and often sells around 100€.
Here's a little shootout between an nFD 85/1.8 and a Minolta MD 85/2 I did a while back on a Fuji X-E1 (full resolution is available):
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kaktuskontrafaktus/albums/72157651877508545

The Canon has a very minor fungus infection, (I wouldn't expect any noticable impact on IQ). The MD85/2 is one of the sharpest manual 85s but it's well out of your price range (unless you get lucky).
The Canon has been waiting to get the fungus removed for a long time now, I should probably just sell it on the cheap...

[R3jected]

[Boris_Akunin]

[padam]

Canon FD is probably the best option (maybe Hexanon AR or Minolta but for 85mm they are more pricey).

Mixing brands might not be the best with regards to color matching.

[Boris_Akunin]

[Lightshow]

[newst]

If you are willing to use a 100mm rather than an 85mm you can get a set of excellent Hexanon lenses in your price range.

Konica Hexanon AR 35mm f2.8 $69.00
Konica Hexanon AR 50mm f1.4 $99.00
Konica Hexanon AR 100mm f2.8 $165.99

http://stores.ebay.com/Berger-Bros-Camera-and-Video?_dmd=2&_nkw=hexanon
http://www.ebay.com/itm/KONICA-AR-HEXANON-100mm-f2-8-PORTRAIT-LENS-for-mirrorles-cameras-JAPAN-GREAT-/222216236185?hash=item33bd1eac99:g:-8cAAOSwp5JWaFJ2