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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6006 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 2:54 am Post subject: Share Your Large Format experiences |
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Oldhand wrote:
Many thanks to Attila for creating this new forum in MF Lenses.
I have seen several members posting results and comments about LF in other forums of MF Lenses, and asked if we might have a place here to share.
So here we are.
I guess this forum is open to all sorts of topics. Lenses of course, but also - cameras, techniques, problems, adaptations, film experiences, historical interests, photography "after the style" of a well known LF worker etc etc etc.
OK let's do it.
I look forward to reading and sharing much in this space.
Happy snaps
Tom |
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RSalles
Joined: 12 Aug 2012 Posts: 1373 Location: Brazil - RS / South
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Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 3:37 am Post subject: |
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RSalles wrote:
Hi OH, so let's feed the pages with some content, and, pictures!
Few days ago I had made and experiment with a film made in China,not very well known as other film makers as Kodak, Ilford, Foma, etc, but indeed a great film in the 4x5 size. I have made 2 sets of images and developed in 2 "very well known" film developers: Kodak HC-110 and Agfa Rodinal.
The film is Shanghai GP3 - reminds me the old Kodak Panatomic-X.
Technical data -
Film: Shanghai GP3 4x5, box rated ISO 125, used as ISO 80.
Camera + lens: Sinar F2, Sinar Copal shutter, Staeble Ultragon 8/150mm at f45.
Developers: Agfa Rodinal 1:50 with 12min. 68F/20ºC and HC-100 dil "H" (1:63) with 10min. 68F/20ºC
Yankee Agitank 4x5 - Pre-soak 1min, 30s ini. agit., + 10S each min. til finish.
Lightning: Ambient light 10:30 AM, Spot metered - Minolta Spot Meter - at the rose petals to Zone VII, table tissue falling mainly at Z-IX, and Z-10.
Scanning & PP: Nikon El-Nikkor lens 4/75mm and a FF Digital camera, 2 passes stitched with Hugin Panorama Creator and Gimp 2.9, with curves.
With HC-110:
7419-20-hc110 by Renato Salles, no Flickr
... and Rodinal:
7416-17-Rodinal by Renato Salles, no Flickr _________________ RSalles BLog: Made in The Wet
http://madeinthewet.blogspot.com.br/ |
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6006 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 4:40 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
Thank you for posting these and the details.
I see more contrast with HC-110 but I can see little difference in grain and detail.
I am glad that you have shown the Shanghai G3 as I have read mixed reactions to it.
It looks very good to me.
I think the common question over it was one of consistency from batch to batch.
Have you used it long enough to notice this.
Tom |
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RSalles
Joined: 12 Aug 2012 Posts: 1373 Location: Brazil - RS / South
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Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 1:17 pm Post subject: |
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RSalles wrote:
Hi Tom,
I have tried the 4x5 sheet film, 4 boxes till now, and it went all ok. What I have read on the net is for roll film it could be a different story.
Yes, the HC-110 showed to be more contrasty, mostly on the highlights - I can imagine a contrast curve with a "soft feet" and the angle begins to increase after Zone V/middle gray. If I had the time I could even plot a contrast film curve à la BTZS, but I don't. On the other hand, I have rated the ISO of this film at 80-100, no more then this. What have to be defined is the reciprocity failure rate, as the data provided by the manufacturer addresses only development of the film. But for 18 bucks for a 25 sheet box, that's good enough.
I have developed some sheets with Rodinal and stand development with this film, and have had very consistent results with 1:150 dilution for 1 hour, too.
Cheers,
Renato _________________ RSalles BLog: Made in The Wet
http://madeinthewet.blogspot.com.br/ |
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6006 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 10:26 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
RSalles wrote: |
Hi Tom,
I have tried the 4x5 sheet film, 4 boxes till now, and it went all ok. What I have read on the net is for roll film it could be a different story.
Yes, the HC-110 showed to be more contrasty, mostly on the highlights - I can imagine a contrast curve with a "soft feet" and the angle begins to increase after Zone V/middle gray. If I had the time I could even plot a contrast film curve à la BTZS, but I don't. On the other hand, I have rated the ISO of this film at 80-100, no more then this. What have to be defined is the reciprocity failure rate, as the data provided by the manufacturer addresses only development of the film. But for 18 bucks for a 25 sheet box, that's good enough.
I have developed some sheets with Rodinal and stand development with this film, and have had very consistent results with 1:150 dilution for 1 hour, too.
Cheers,
Renato |
Thank you Renato for the details.
Shanghai film seems to be at its best without having to take reciprocity into account, if the reports from other users are anything to go by.
Horses for courses I suppose.
I tossed up between this and Fomapan when I made my first order, and chose Fomapan 200 - based on the reports of others.
Your rating of Shanghai G3 film speed is consistent with what others seem to have discovered as well.
I might order some and try it myself. It certainly is cheap enough
Happy snaps
Tom |
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exaklaus
Joined: 11 Aug 2009 Posts: 1633 Location: Niederrhein, Germany
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Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2015 7:59 am Post subject: |
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exaklaus wrote:
A shot, taken with my Tachihara with a Yamasaki Congo 1:6,3 f=90mm on Adox 4x5"
Stand developed in Rodinal-follower, 1:100, Epson V850
_________________ my Ebay auctions
Canon 5D II,
Fuji GW690III, Fuji G617, Fujifilm X-E1
Bessaflex TM
Tachihara 4"x5"
Summilux-R 1:1,4/50
Canon FD 85mm 1:1,2
Color-Heliar 75mm F2.5 SL
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6006 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2015 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
Thank you for sharing this image exaklaus.
There is something about overcast days that just begs for B&W imaging - the even lighting is so kind.
Well taken.
I am still awaiting my film - on a slow boat from China I think
OH |
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exaklaus
Joined: 11 Aug 2009 Posts: 1633 Location: Niederrhein, Germany
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Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 5:45 am Post subject: |
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exaklaus wrote:
Yes, this lightning was perfect. No harsh contrasts. I had to shoot.
Klaus _________________ my Ebay auctions
Canon 5D II,
Fuji GW690III, Fuji G617, Fujifilm X-E1
Bessaflex TM
Tachihara 4"x5"
Summilux-R 1:1,4/50
Canon FD 85mm 1:1,2
Color-Heliar 75mm F2.5 SL
www.autoselbstfotografie.de
www.classic-cameras-and-lenses.de |
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gary2881
Joined: 22 May 2010 Posts: 135 Location: Scio, OR
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Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 11:09 pm Post subject: |
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gary2881 wrote:
Butte Creek Falls 2015
Bute-Cr.-Falls-24 by gary2881, on Flickr
4x5, HP-5+, WD2D+
Butte Creek Falls 2007
Upper-Butte-Cr.-Falls by gary2881, on Flickr
4x5, Arista EDU100, |
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RSalles
Joined: 12 Aug 2012 Posts: 1373 Location: Brazil - RS / South
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Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 12:56 am Post subject: |
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RSalles wrote:
Nice, Gary, same focal lenght?
Renato _________________ RSalles BLog: Made in The Wet
http://madeinthewet.blogspot.com.br/ |
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6006 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 1:35 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
Well taken Gary.
The recent image is blessed with less water flow, making the falls themselves more delicate, and revealing more detail.
I like these.
Tom |
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gary2881
Joined: 22 May 2010 Posts: 135 Location: Scio, OR
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Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 3:28 am Post subject: |
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gary2881 wrote:
Thanks, Renato and Tom.
The 2015 shot was with a Fujinon WS f5.6/150. The earlier shot was with a Carl Zeiss Jena Tessar f4.5/13.5cm which is an uncoated lens from 1938.
The second shot is how this fall should look , booming from spring run-off. The lack of winter snow in the Cascades makes it look like summer flow. |
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RSalles
Joined: 12 Aug 2012 Posts: 1373 Location: Brazil - RS / South
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Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 8:45 am Post subject: |
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RSalles wrote:
Look what I have read today:
A Deardorff is sort of like a violin that takes pictures. Sort of.
Cheers,
Renato _________________ RSalles BLog: Made in The Wet
http://madeinthewet.blogspot.com.br/ |
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gary2881
Joined: 22 May 2010 Posts: 135 Location: Scio, OR
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Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 4:21 am Post subject: |
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gary2881 wrote:
Double-Delight-1 by gary2881, on Flickr
4x5, Arista 200, WD2D+
Lost-Cr-19 by gary2881, on Flickr
4x5, Efke PL 100, WD2D+ |
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exaklaus
Joined: 11 Aug 2009 Posts: 1633 Location: Niederrhein, Germany
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Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2015 7:54 am Post subject: |
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exaklaus wrote:
[quote="gary2881"]Double-Delight-1 by gary2881, on Flickr
4x5, Arista 200, WD2D+
Great one!
Klaus _________________ my Ebay auctions
Canon 5D II,
Fuji GW690III, Fuji G617, Fujifilm X-E1
Bessaflex TM
Tachihara 4"x5"
Summilux-R 1:1,4/50
Canon FD 85mm 1:1,2
Color-Heliar 75mm F2.5 SL
www.autoselbstfotografie.de
www.classic-cameras-and-lenses.de |
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gary2881
Joined: 22 May 2010 Posts: 135 Location: Scio, OR
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Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 5:30 am Post subject: |
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gary2881 wrote:
Thanks, Klaus.
Gary |
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evgenv
Joined: 06 Mar 2011 Posts: 47 Location: Moscow, Russia
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Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 6:36 pm Post subject: Arista 100 |
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evgenv wrote:
Arista 100, 4x5 |
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dan_
Joined: 05 Dec 2012 Posts: 1052 Location: Romania
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Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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dan_ wrote:
Very well done, evgenv! I like it very much.
Congrats! |
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6006 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 3:28 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
Very delicate lighting and shadows.
Nicely done
OH |
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RSalles
Joined: 12 Aug 2012 Posts: 1373 Location: Brazil - RS / South
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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2015 6:03 am Post subject: |
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RSalles wrote:
Some recent pics with the LF camera,
1)
7878-7880 by Renato Salles, no Flickr
Farm gate, near Sao Pedro do SUl - RS - Brazil -Sinar F2 6x9 roll film back, Ultragon 9/150mm, Ilford FP4+ with HC-110 dil. "E".
2)
7837 - _MG_7840 by Renato Salles, no Flickr
Still with kettle and roses
Sinar F2, Schneider Symmar 210/5.6, Shanghai GP3 4x5 with HC-110 dil E
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_MG_7736 - _MG_7739 by Renato Salles, no Flickr
Farm - Staeble-Ultragon 150/8 - Sinar F2 - Shanghai GP3 4x5, HC-110 Dil H.
Cheers,
Renato _________________ RSalles BLog: Made in The Wet
http://madeinthewet.blogspot.com.br/ |
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mmelvis
Joined: 24 May 2010 Posts: 1326 Location: Florida,USA
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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2015 1:55 am Post subject: |
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mmelvis wrote:
Open Air Post Office St. Petersburg, Florida
Motley 8x10 Camera (Made from parts)
Gundlach Radar Extreme 155mm
Kodak tri-x pan txp 320 Film |
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finarphin
Joined: 22 Jan 2016 Posts: 15 Location: Sacramento
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Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 5:50 am Post subject: Hiking |
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finarphin wrote:
Not much activity on this thread. Here's one: this is Junction Peak in Kings Canyon National Park. Shot with a Calumet 4x5 and a Schneider Symmar 150mm lens. Must have been ektachrome. This was an experience, as it was part of a trip along the John Muir Trail. I think this was the fourth day. This one came out about the best.
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exaklaus
Joined: 11 Aug 2009 Posts: 1633 Location: Niederrhein, Germany
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Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 8:53 am Post subject: |
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exaklaus wrote:
That's a fine shot. From the colors, it looks a bit like a photo from the past
Klaus _________________ my Ebay auctions
Canon 5D II,
Fuji GW690III, Fuji G617, Fujifilm X-E1
Bessaflex TM
Tachihara 4"x5"
Summilux-R 1:1,4/50
Canon FD 85mm 1:1,2
Color-Heliar 75mm F2.5 SL
www.autoselbstfotografie.de
www.classic-cameras-and-lenses.de |
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uddhava
Joined: 22 Aug 2012 Posts: 3071 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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uddhava wrote:
Nice photos, Renato!
I especially like the second one, "Still with kettle and roses". |
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finarphin
Joined: 22 Jan 2016 Posts: 15 Location: Sacramento
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Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2016 5:25 am Post subject: |
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finarphin wrote:
exaklaus wrote: |
That's a fine shot. From the colors, it looks a bit like a photo from the past
Klaus |
Did you mean Junction Peak? It was 1975. |
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